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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Nov 2018, 03:07
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24 Nov 2018, 03:07#1

November 20, 2018

Boks caught with pants down

Oom Rugby

Hi guys. This weekend the Boks walked away from Murrayfield with a good victory against one of the most dangerous teams in Europe. The Scots has a incredible record at home lately, beating all the comers and only losing recently to the All Blacks last year.

There many good and bad things we can talk about in this game, but a moment I want to look at today is our tendency to sometimes concede “soft” moments.

For me this is different to system failures, tactical failures or even player failures. Soft moments in Test rugby is when you just switch off a little bit, or you drop your intensity or concentration just for a second, and then the other team rip your throat out.

The Boks is steadily evolving their systems and players is starting to settle, but what we want to see emerging now is a true Test-match mentality. Let us take a look…

The picture above is the beginning of a sequence of events that will open the door for a Scottish try. Duane got his hands on the Scots ball, they were penalise for holding on, but then Handre did not kick the resultant penalty out. Now Hogg is sending the ball back with compound interest and the Boks will instead have a lineout all the way back in their own half.

To not kick a penalty out is simply unforgiveable at this level. It is not only a question of accuracy, it is also the cold mental attitude that you will not take a unnecessary risk by trying to win a few extra meters.

Thirty seconds later the Boks win the lineout, set up a maul and then execute a standard box kick exit. Papier kick perfectly from the base giving chasing blindside wing Nkosi time to get up and contest in the air.

We can also see Du Toit (who was not part of the lineout), Marx and De Allende as the follow up chasers. First prize Nkosi can win the contest, second prize the Boks can isolate the catcher or pressure his options. With a box kick we getting the ball behind the opposition forwards and we allowing our forwards to play onto the ball. So far so good.

Nkosi knock the ball on, but the Bok’s first line of chasers can now take charge and exert pressure. The ball spray out to Hogg and we can see above that De Allende is cutting off the outside option. Kriel and Dyantyi also shooting up to crowd the space on the left. But a problem has developed… The kick was good, the chase was good, and the follow up pressure was good, but now it is the rest of the Boks on the field who will momentarily switch off and forget they in a Test match.

Here is a different angle as Hogg now see that the Bok blindside chase line have broken down and lost concentration. There is nobody there. A big responsibility for this is Marx, who as the hooker throwing in the lineout must be up and patrolling that short side space. We talk about defenders folding at rucks, but folding can be true of any situation where a team must ensure they have defenders covering both the blind and open side. Hogg will turn on his afterburners and take the gift.

Above we see the second problem. The Boks further in depth has all drifted over to the left of picture. A counter attack is more likely to happen on that side of the field, so everybody is on autopilot going in that direction. Hogg can not believe his luck and with laser focus accelerate into the open tennis courts of space that the Boks has left open. He will beat the cover and put in a grubber, and Willie will be forced to kick the ball out to prevent the try.

The Scots throw at the lineout and as we see above will score with a beautiful variation. The prop Reid will shoot forward as if for a short throw and Kitshoff will follow him, opening a space behind him. Scotland score a lot of tries from mauls, so the Bok forwards is grouped and ready to defend what they think is coming. But they do not see Watson charge in from the scrumhalf position, through the space and take the perfect clean throw from McInally to score.

Siya, who is the Bok “scrumhalf” at this lineout, is perhaps positioned too far left, but the truth is he must be on that side as a secondary maul defender. So it is difficult to really point fingers at anyone. One solution could have been that Nkosi shoot up to cover the hooker, freeing up Marx to cover Reid and Kitshoff to then track back inside. It is something the Boks will look at and knowing Rassie they will not be caught with their pants down like this again.

One thing I want to add is that initially I thought the try was illegal because Watson entered the lineout from the scrumhalf position before the ball was thrown… But above we can see that he is still safely outside the 2m threshold as the ball leave McInally’s hands.

It is maybe unfair to be too critical of the Boks here as I believe most teams will be fooled by this variation. Scotland is known for their mauls, and if you want to stop a maul you must be ready for it and you must hit it early. The Scots know their own reputation, and play off it beautifully.

Anyway guys, it is all part of this evolution that we want to see – the emergence of the Springbok Test mentality. We do not make silly mistakes, we are always switched on, we do not make assumptions, and we alert and can adapt to rapidly changing situations.

The Boks has come a long way since last year in the way that they play, but the time has come where we want to see maturity in the way they think and react too.

DISCLAIMER: English is Oom’s third language, after Rugby and Afrikaans

Read more on: Hamish Watson | Handre Pollard | Murrayfield | Sbu Nkosi | Scotland | Springboks | Stuart Hogg

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Nov 2018, 04:03
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24 Nov 2018, 04:03#2

Nice post Blobbok. One thing I think should be pointed out is Damian's hesitation in pressuring Hogg. Too passive. He could have shut down Hogg, but he allowed him to break out. Common occurrence on tour as Damian has allowed many defenders to breakout.

That lineout try was nailed like a bullet. Very hard to react. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Nov 2018, 07:15
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24 Nov 2018, 07:15#3
Good series of images.....can't say I agree with Oom Rugby's conclusions though. 
 If you look at image 4 you can see the two fatal errors......firstly Allende stops rather than going in and making the tackle, he is in classical Allende, back on his heels, posture.......secondly Stephanie is veering towards Hogg, rather than the open space Hogg exploited, even though Kitshoff and Allende are covering the inside. He makes a poor on the spur of the moment alignment choice. Were those missed tackles....nope not officially....but they were poor defence.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2018, 09:32
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24 Nov 2018, 09:32#4

This comment is expected from Mozart and AO - they have total brain deficiency when it comes to thinking on rugby and their only response was as expected to blame De Allende and Du Toit  for all that happened here.  

First of all no comment on the penalty line kick missed by Pollard - a basic error so often made by their hero Morne Steyn that he was habitual to do that.   

Then the player nearest to Watson happened to be no 5 - was that not their latest hero Mostert.   By not jumping against the jumper he could easily have moved forward a meter and Watson would have been cut of. 

Nobody above criticized \De Allende for not going for the tackle of Hogg because he was about three meters away from De Allende when Hogg started the attack and he went to the outside of where De Allende was - but there was no defense on that side - so easy for the dolts - attack De Allende and Du Toit because he did not cover the whole field in defending.   

This is typical of the two dolts - heaven helped Du Toit was not near enough to be blamed for the eventual try.   If he was anywhere near - like in the position Mostert was in - he would have received total blame for the eventual try scored.

Another example of the kind of contribution made by he two relates  to the Pollard try scored.   A Scottish player was tackled and De Allende  got a turnover in possession and the ball went out to Pollard who scored.   Although the two duds were asked about this incident - they would not respond on the issue - they should hide their heads in shame because of that BS.   

One cannot trust anything the two write on site - they are gifted with the art of total misrepresentation of what actually happened and would never be truthful about what happened in games.  Normally their contribution always started with IF - irrespective of how far the IF IS FROM REALITY,  

LMAO   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Nov 2018, 15:35
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24 Nov 2018, 15:35#5
You need specs Oom the nearest player to Watson was Fattie Malherbe, next to him Stephanie. Malherbe was focused on lifting Stephanie the jumper, so he gets a pass. But could an alert Stephanie have intervened? Maybe....but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Mostert? He was at the very back of the lineout, you thought Malherbe was Mostert. Just another massive clanger.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2018, 15:50
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24 Nov 2018, 15:50#6

No Mozart

Since when is no 5 warn by a prop?   It was clearly no 5 standing on the ground - none of the Springbok players were lifted in that line-out.

No clanger - Mozart - just pointing out your constant BS.

Your clangers are listed above - so why not responding on those?  It would be a wonder if in every case De Allende and Du Toit is not mentioned by the third sentence  of any contribution and blamed for whatever went wrong.    Heaven help them if they are within ten meters of where any incident happened.   

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Nov 2018, 16:00
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24 Nov 2018, 16:00#7

Mostert is at the back of the lineout with his hand near the shoulder of #8.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Nov 2018, 16:09
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24 Nov 2018, 16:09#8

You probably don't want to hear it, but they guy right next to Malherbe, next closest to Watson, is in fact Steph.

By not jumping against the jumper he could easily have moved forward a meter and Watson would have been cut of.

So could Steph have moved forward a meter and cut Watson off then?


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Nov 2018, 16:30
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24 Nov 2018, 16:30#9
Somebody should keep a list!
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Nov 2018, 16:40
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24 Nov 2018, 16:40#10
So could Steph have moved forward a meter and cut Watson off then?

To answer my own question: of course not. Just as we couldn't have expected it of Mostert had it been him. Watson's run started from behind the front jumpers' backs as the hooker winded up for the throw - they could have had no awareness of him because they were looking at the hooker who was about to throw. It took Watson barely a second to cover the ground from where his run started to where he catches the ball. There is no way anyone could have closed the space. The Boks were lined up to defend a maul. They were bamboozled as a collective. Blaming any one player here is silly.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Nov 2018, 16:44
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24 Nov 2018, 16:44#11
Probably the player with the best shot to 'read' the play was Nkosi.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Nov 2018, 16:55
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24 Nov 2018, 16:55#12

Yep, but it was such a fine piece of last moment timing by the Scots that he would have had to be super sharp to catch it in time to make a try stopping tackle. Also not sure how much line of sight he would have had behind the lineout, plus the Scot in front did a big song and dance of a dummy which may also have distracted him. Unfortunately we don't really have an angle that allows us to follow Nkosi's focus.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Nov 2018, 19:01
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24 Nov 2018, 19:01#13
Actually Pakie the 6th image posted by Oom rugby suggests he could have if he read the play.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2018, 21:19
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24 Nov 2018, 21:19#14

Pakie

It is a nutcase to suggest Mostert would have cut the player off.  He should have.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2018, 21:19
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24 Nov 2018, 21:19#15

Pakie

It is a nutcase to suggest Mostert would have cut the player off.  He should have.  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Nov 2018, 22:09
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24 Nov 2018, 22:09#16

It is a nutcase to suggest Mostert would have cut the player off.  He should have.

No idea what you're trying to say.

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