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Our useless coach at play again

Started by Saffolk 36 REPLIES334 VIEWS· 21 Aug 2014, 13:30
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Aug 2014, 13:30
#1
21 Aug 2014, 13:30#1

So the bright man has dropped Beast to the bench and replaced him with fat Steenkamp, a player who cant even command a starting spot for his club - wow, Meyer never fails does he?

 

At least he has woken up to Bakkies out of the starting 15, but he is still finds favour on the bench.

 

Out goes one of our best players of last week in Coetzee, who was one of the few Boks to make team of the week and he is replaced by another geriatric.

 

But best of all Serfontein gets replaced on the bench for Mvovo having not even taken the field last week.

 

And to think, some on here think Meyer is the answer........oh boy

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
21 Aug 2014, 13:37
#2
21 Aug 2014, 13:37#2
Saff, according to Meyers comments on an article on the homepage, there is a short turn around time between games and basically they don't want to over cook Beast who is coming back from an injury layoff. 
Seems logical.
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Aug 2014, 13:46
#3
21 Aug 2014, 13:46#3
 Definite a plot here. Short turn arounds and one thing the Argies will do is scrum for 80 mins..When we lose the Beast to fatigue, our scrum play deteriorates massively..Bring beast on for a 30 min thrash..This ensures our scrum is competitive all 80min and we finish the game strong...If its on a knife edge, last thing you want is scrum penalties at the death..Very tactical decision but we wouldnt expect Dave to know anything about that..Dave, you thoughts on elephants and onions please? ;-)
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
21 Aug 2014, 13:48
#4
21 Aug 2014, 13:48#4
 Some people do understand the concept of player management. Some don't and some will never understand it. There are also the few who refuse to even try to understand it.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Aug 2014, 14:42
#5
21 Aug 2014, 14:42#5

Its just a pity the stupid fucking coach thinks that fat Steenkamp should be in the squad.

 

I don't see the AB's or Aussies making the same kind of rotational calls.......so bang goes your pathetic and typical ignorance......Chicken and Vlagshit......you two should have a race to see who is slower and we are not talking running here 

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Aug 2014, 14:46
#6
21 Aug 2014, 14:46#6
 The AB's and Aussies are not playing the Argies you thick as pig shit knob jockey!! Some games Crockett starts, some Woodcock and Franks..They do enough rotation..SA's travel schedule is more demanding than theirs!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Aug 2014, 14:49
#7
21 Aug 2014, 14:49#7

No they are playing eachother you fucking idiot which is even more demanding.

 

Bullshit they don't rotate Crockett and Woodcock you fuckwit......they start with Woodcock who happens to be injured.

 

The younger Franks always starts.......stop fucking lying you prick  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2014, 14:59
#8
21 Aug 2014, 14:59#8
 Quite a lot of poltics here.   Dropping Nyakane and Mohoje - Meyer has no option but to bring another Black into the matchday squad.   That means Mvovo coming in.   
Howevr, Steenkamp is a joke - why he is in the squad only Meyer would know.   I would have invested in Thomas du Toit - a much stronger and active player - or even Van der Merwe of the lions - at least he was the best scrummager in Super 15.    
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Aug 2014, 15:06
#9
21 Aug 2014, 15:06#9
 The foundational problem is that the Sharks front row has been played into the ground.Beast also is recovering from a disc injury. 
The positive side is Steenkamp is going to be really tested. I do trust Steve Walsh ensures, as Dr Brendon Venter noted, fair scrumming!!

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Aug 2014, 15:10
#10
21 Aug 2014, 15:10#10

Steenkamp is kak, he should not be there......that's the bottom line. Fuck me how stupid is our coach to ignore all the young props in the country and play this washed up has been instead......its bloody insulting.

 

There are 8 better looseheads than fat Steenkamp and that's a fact  

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Aug 2014, 15:58
#11
21 Aug 2014, 15:58#11
 Exactly my point Dave..They are not playing the Argies..They are playing each other..Two of the worlds best teams locking horns so you need your best players on the park...You dont choose those games to rest players arsehole!!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Aug 2014, 17:28
#12
21 Aug 2014, 17:28#12
Beeno: fair scrumming sounds  like your coded language for a RAW to Boks
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2014, 17:32
#13
21 Aug 2014, 17:32#13
If Dave had his way our front row would be propped by Coenie and Malherbe. Apparently he never watches any scrums.  
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
21 Aug 2014, 17:36
#14
21 Aug 2014, 17:36#14
Schalk Van Der Merwe isn't too good around the park, in the games I've seen him in he has missed a few tackles and doesn't make that much ground when he runs the ball, but his scrummaging is top notch.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2014, 17:45
#15
21 Aug 2014, 17:45#15
 Shezza
He is nothing worse than Jannie and Steenkamp outside of scrumming and he is a better scummager than both.  
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Aug 2014, 18:17
#16
21 Aug 2014, 18:17#16
 
Player management?

That's a laugh.

Meyer doesn't know what he's doing at the best of times. Much like Faggot!

He promised fat Steenkamp he would start this week and now he's merely showing that he's a man of his word. That's all.

A blob of a man who just so happens to be a personal friend of this foolish coach.

Player management my friggin eye.

Reckon ol Steenkamp will probably go for seconds at the after match braai this coming Saturday.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Aug 2014, 18:22
#17
21 Aug 2014, 18:22#17

Well Mozzie......Coenie and Malherbe would be far better than Steenkamp and Jannie.

 

I watch scrums and then proceed to point our your lies regarding those very same scrums.......look no further than your bullshit regarding Marcel v/d Merwe

 

 

Moffie you don't have a bloody clue when it comes to props........man oh man you had Cilliers as our tighthead a few weeks back......I kid you not folks  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2014, 18:47
#18
21 Aug 2014, 18:47#18
You can check how good Malherbe was in his one scrum last weekend...snapped like a twig.
As for your interpretation CCialis, another little conspiracy theory.....how are the growths today?  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2014, 18:57
#19
21 Aug 2014, 18:57#19
 One scrum and Mozart gets carried away.   I looked and nobody snapped like a lock.  the first effoirt the scrum went down and had to be reformed.  The second effort - Malherbe scrummed inward went down and was penalized.
The conditions on the ground was slippery and players needed to get used to it - so wha is the great song and dance about.  Please stop falsifying performance assessments - you have been caught spreading lies often enough.    
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2014, 19:11
#20
21 Aug 2014, 19:11#20
He nearly denied us the win...after the penalty the Bargies were within inches of a tie. So we can't rely on this guy to hold for one critical scrum. He tried to angle in to "save" the scrum, but quickly was pushed inwards....and then lifted and snapped. Pootjies in die lug.  Pathetic for a Bok prop. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2014, 19:15
#21
21 Aug 2014, 19:15#21
 Te standard lie -always ready to lie is our Mozart.  Stop talking tripe where you get shown up badly.   The one that came closest to deny us the win was Morne Steyn - and that is a fact.    

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Aug 2014, 20:27
#22
21 Aug 2014, 20:27#22
Thing is he was not snapped at all - load of rubbish  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2014, 20:34
#23
21 Aug 2014, 20:34#23
 Saffex
I do not ever take Mozart's player assessments seriously.  before the match starts he has a set of phrases to be used against every player he intends to belittle and also whivh  players he tends to praise.  Whatever happens on the field of play - not fitting into those preconceived ideas does not count.   He went on the rampafe against Lood de Jager and praised Bakkies in respect of the test last week - which proved to be total misrepresentation.   He does not mind throwing in a substantial number of lies as well.   
Better to just accept that he is prejudiced - then you know that he cannot be trusted to write an obj ective assessment.   
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2014, 20:34
#24
21 Aug 2014, 20:34#24
 Saffex
I do not ever take Mozart's player assessments seriously.  before the match starts he has a set of phrases to be used against every player he intends to belittle and also whivh  players he tends to praise.  Whatever happens on the field of play - not fitting into those preconceived ideas does not count.   He went on the rampafe against Lood de Jager and praised Bakkies in respect of the test last week - which proved to be total misrepresentation.   He does not mind throwing in a substantial number of lies as well.   
Better to just accept that he is prejudiced - then you know that he cannot be trusted to write an obj ective assessment.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2014, 20:51
#25
21 Aug 2014, 20:51#25
Look it's simple he just had to stand his ground.....the scrum was not going back.  But he cracked straight sideways onto the deck, face in the mud. Pathetic for a Bok tighthead...and here we have two fools trying to talk there way out of it. I have told you over and over again, this guy is not a great scrummager. 
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
21 Aug 2014, 23:04
#26
21 Aug 2014, 23:04#26
Out of the ordinary conditions and the consequences that it will hinder, hamper and cause mishap in a one-off incident is no indicator of ability in extreme conditions...this is  likely to happen to any player at some stage or other and forms no basis of accessment...especially a scrumager in extreme muddy conditions...lets be reasonable and fair, Mozart.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Aug 2014, 23:20
#27
21 Aug 2014, 23:20#27
 Agree Seb. Malherbe has shown good scrumming ability in the past. Lets hope he fulfills the considerable promise shown. Out side the scrum he is a lot better than Jannie.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2014, 23:42
#28
21 Aug 2014, 23:42#28
 Malherbe has never been a dominating scrummager. He survives in the S15. This is Coenie all over again...time and again I was told by fools he could scrum when the evidence was popping out of the TV screen that he couldn't. So now Malherbe let's the Boks down, but it's the weather....but Jannie stood for a whole game. Oops inconvenient truth. Open your eyes for heaven sake.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Aug 2014, 00:03
#29
22 Aug 2014, 00:03#29
Moz, who else? I would have gone for the Lions 3, but is he really that much better ? 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Aug 2014, 00:05
#30
22 Aug 2014, 00:05#30
 One swallow doesnt make asummer. The man has been out for months comes back has one scrum in attrocious conditions and he is useless. Well how come Meyer picks him.
But for injury he would most likely have taken over from Jannie by now. Jannie desparately needs support so lets hope Malherbe makes it. He is no Coenie.Also I note that Venter strongly criticised the Argies scrumming technique. Lets see how Malherbe goes this week end. Meyer should give him 30 minutes.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Aug 2014, 00:29
#31
22 Aug 2014, 00:29#31
Frankly Cilliers is a more reliable scrummager.  It's not that there are lots of options, but the idea Malherbe should be playing ahead of Jannie is a joke. The main thing a tighthead has to be able to do is stand up FFS.....this guy collapses like a sack of potatoes. He can't do the basic thing he is picked to do.....I would never pick him.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Aug 2014, 01:41
#32
22 Aug 2014, 01:41#32
 Mozart
Forget about Cilliers - he is even for the Stormers a back up prop.  Tghe BS you come up is incredible.   The problem is that you are absolutely cluesless as to front row play and those are facts.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Aug 2014, 01:56
#33
22 Aug 2014, 01:56#33
Cilliers doesnt fall flat on his face at right angles to the scru m, with his face in the mud and his pootjies in die lug. Malherbe does. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Aug 2014, 12:02
#34
22 Aug 2014, 12:02#34

Cilliers a more dominant scrummager what utter fucking rubbish......there is a reason Cilliers cant make the WP starting 15, he is rubbish you thick plank.

 

Malherbe came of age a good season or two and has been bloody good in between the injury stints.

 

He is dominant at scrum time and a good all round player

 

Moffie you and props just don't go hand in hand......you are seriously fucking clueless.

 

Your credibility goes straight out the window with the laughable Cilliers call......if you are going to mouth off about a good prop at least bloody come up with a credible alternative

 

 

Cilliers.........bwhaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  

GT
Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
22 Aug 2014, 14:04
#35
22 Aug 2014, 14:04#35
"Your credibility goes straight out the window with the laughable Cilliers call....."

youd know all about losing credibility!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Aug 2014, 16:23
#36
22 Aug 2014, 16:23#36

Ooh Bozo coming from you the fucking idiot that had Barry ahead of Jean as a player......I think you best shut the fuck up when it comes to the point of credibility.......there have been some bad calls over the years on various sites but yours has to be the worst.......and from that one would have to conclude that in terms of rugby, you have the least credibility on here.

 

 

You are a rugby idiot with no personality......why not just do us all a favour and piss off

 

 

de Wet Barry.......bwhaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
22 Aug 2014, 16:51
#37
22 Aug 2014, 16:51#37
 Props is something Dave should know all about..I hear he is ideally built to be just that. A short fk of a man that is wider than he is tall.. Rumour has it he battles to find jackets to fit this odd shape..
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