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overall thought of the small tournament

Started by carpetmuncher6 REPLIES193 VIEWS· 24 Jun 2013, 11:56
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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
24 Jun 2013, 11:56
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24 Jun 2013, 11:56#1

first off great to see the pattern that is on display. the speed of the ruck recycling and hand speed of the back line is really picked up quite a lot. the backline has much more penetration and the willie le roux has injected but the much needed attacking steel that we lack for the past 10 years to be fair at the back. really hope meyer give him a run at the first choice in the castle champs. support play from the boks in terms of off the ball running has been also quite a bit better but we the reall test will be the walies and AB....but there has been progression at least in terms of pattern.

 

Louw had a great tournament but still needs to show if he is the man for our breakdown as the real teams that focus and play towards that area is still waiting for us and the likes of hooper mccheat, pocock and others will be licking there lips for a go at oour rucks. that will be louws real test in my view.

 

all in all great idea and tournament hope saru sticks to this for future.

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Bok -Bef$KClub Pro216 posts
24 Jun 2013, 12:03
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24 Jun 2013, 12:03#2

Agree a few small changes needed though like Spies gone and Pienaar gone.

How good was Morne's tackling against Samoa? I have never seen him tackle like that

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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
24 Jun 2013, 12:16
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24 Jun 2013, 12:16#3

i agree bok the guys played well. the competition was tough but the real tests of meyer will come in the castle champs. from what we have seen in terms of the type of rugby that is being played we are at least going out there and trying to play rugby at least

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2013, 12:16
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24 Jun 2013, 12:16#4
Carpetmuncher I agree with you about the above. There were two real differences in backline play that enhanced the functioning of the backline and those were - * bringing into the team of Willie le Roux - a player with real ball sense and the ability to create space for players outside of him; and * the fact that Francois Steyn is not around to kill backline play buy constant slow ing down of the ball and crashballing. The worrying factor in the backline remains Morne Steyn and our scrummies. Moenw ias getting back to his performances in the tests last year - deficient goal kicking and poor strategic kicking. Meyer took a long time to deal with those deficiencies - we are sure to see him continuing with Steyn and that would indeed be a pity. I would rather see Lambie at flyhalf than Steyn. Insofar as the loose forwards are concerned - I think that Meyer tried to get the required mobility of the loosies in place through the selection of Alberts, Spies and Louw. It really did not work out on Saturday and he will have to take a hard look at what is to happen as to the loosies. Like Spies Coetzee has a serious slump in form and Kolisi is definitely not an acceptable loosie against teams like would be in the Championship. I would rather see a loosie combination of Louw, Labuschagne and Vermeulen in the RC - if Vermeulen is not available - I would add Elstadt to that mix. Alberts relative poor mobility it not the answer. Insofar s the props are concerned I would think that Jannie Du Plessis is really on the way out and see a major role for Malherbe once he is over the present injury.
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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
24 Jun 2013, 12:28
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24 Jun 2013, 12:28#5

i agree with you mike......players like steyn ext has not been at his best for quite a while so i am not sure if that was due to coaching or the style but he would need to do some soul searching. he has the ablity that we know but there is a something not quite right with him. in terms of morne he has taken a step up from how he played last year but i am not sure he is the best. players like goosen and lambie should really be where we focus on. they are the real future for our rugby and have quite a bit more skills than morne. if goosen can stay injury free he will become a bok legend.

 

your lose trio looks like the right mix but players like coetzee and alberts had quite a bit of rugby since last year and much like jannie it seems they are burned out and in need of proper rest. alberts mobilty has always been a issue but if you pick your combos right one can really just make use of alberts as a primary ball cariier like he is meant to be used for. a player like spies is really nor here not there and needs to do some soul searching on how he wants to play

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2013, 13:28
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24 Jun 2013, 13:28#6

Yep Mike provided Vermuelen is really fit when he comes back that is a good selection as a loose trio.

Slightly more physical would be Louw, Arno Botha and Vermuelen.

You could also have Louw, Arno and Lappies. Nice and mobile and physicality not too bad. Like this loose trio given a chance on a highveldt ground.

Totally physical would be Louw, Vermuelen and Alberts - the loose trio which did the trick againt England and on the NH tour.

Hopefully Elstadt will have a good injury free run and show he is worthy of higher honours.

Morne is doing fine but every now and then he stutters with his goal kicking which is a worry.  We cant afford to throw away tests with bad goal kicking. 

 

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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
24 Jun 2013, 14:59
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24 Jun 2013, 14:59#7

vermeulen and alberts offers the same ablities so picking both of them might not be a smart move where as lappies give a pack more range in terms of mobility....vermeulen is a excellent ball carrier really is a great asset to have but the balance needs to be right.

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