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Perfect harmony in Meyer's selections

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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Nov 2013, 18:25
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14 Nov 2013, 18:25#1

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux: 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain) 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Flip van der Merwe, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Frans Malberhe, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Gurthrö Steenkamp.
Replacements: 16 Bismarck du Plessis, 17 Tendai Mtawarira, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Eben Etzebeth, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Morné Steyn, 23 JJ Engelbrecht

 

We see HM keeping the same backline as per most of the Scottish match. In the pack he takes a few risks starting with Bakkies, Strauss and the improving Gurthro. But with Etzebeth, the Beast an d Bismarck available on the bench.

 

I am relieved to see HM takes winning seriously and the earlier reports that it was not the only objective can be discarded. Winning is the best tonic, the best player lesson, the best for long term success.

 

I might have chanced my arm with Stephanie on the bench after all we have two starting 4 locks....but no matter. I think HM is keen to see what total power can accomplish. He also leaves the Bok's power loosie combination intact.

 

This is Lambie's big chance. Once again HM is working on giving himself options. This guy is so zoned in with his player selections, he could probably tell you his team for the first RWC15 pool match, if he were pressed.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2013, 18:32
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14 Nov 2013, 18:32#2
HO-HO-HO-HO     
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
14 Nov 2013, 19:22
#3
14 Nov 2013, 19:22#3
 I would have put Stephanie on the bench.
Malherbe starting is a good sign, hopefully the scrums goes well and he replaces the ever useless Jannie
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
14 Nov 2013, 20:02
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14 Nov 2013, 20:02#4

Scotland has really never been rated but they can be remarkedly good against tier 1 sides...with the exception of the ALL Blacks whom they've never beaten. I surmise that Scotland never put much into their game when playing tier 2 sides and weaker tier 1 but rise to the occassion when playing the stronger sides, especially Springboks...their game seems to rise to another level...a small nation of rugby with a lot of bravehearts.

 

Nothing really wrong with SA side but I suspect the bench could easily be called upon to save an embarrassment. 

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
14 Nov 2013, 20:18
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14 Nov 2013, 20:18#5
i dont understand how the Boks just dont put the scots to the swords, its baffling to me big time.

cos the scots can be some kind of wildcard against the Boks in scotland, i can understand why the bulk of this team is the way it is, its obvious that meyer thinks this is pretty much his strongest team more or less.

IMO though, the opportunity to give a few others a decent crack is being wasted, the likes of serfontien and stephanie could of had a chance to really show their wares, but alas,,,,
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
14 Nov 2013, 20:35
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14 Nov 2013, 20:35#6

Sas...AB's have had a lot of Scots blood in their players...never underestimate the Scot...the Flower Of Scotland (and that must include a wee fern for decoration)...look what they did to King Edwards Army...and of course every remembers wee Robbie MacGregor...he was not as big as the Irishman (Liam Neeson) who played the part of Robbie in that blockbuster film some years ago...lolz

 

I admire the Scots, good tough resilient and hard working people and brave and good fighters. It's just a pity that rugby union is so relatively small in Scotland compared to Association Football.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Nov 2013, 21:27
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14 Nov 2013, 21:27#7
I know and occasionaly sing most of the Scottish ballads, courtesy of a Kenneth McKellar record my father gave me as a boy.  These old songs have a wonderfully human philosophy. We were joined by locals in Aberdeen a few years back as we belted out the Northern Lights and other tunes ....great stuff.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Nov 2013, 00:32
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15 Nov 2013, 00:32#8
This has to be one of the worst Bok sides I have seen in ages.......as a supporter I fee short changed in a big way. 

I hope Meyer's tenure is short lived, we dont need this conservative twit guiding our Boks.

Who would have thought a year ago or so that we would have to endure a Bok side of bloody geriatrics........its a joke that this clown thinks the way forward for Bok rugby is the investment in Steenkamp, Bakkies, Fourie, du Preez and co......next year we will have Spies, Schalk and Matfield added to the mix.

I'm close to the point where I want to say I cant support this shit anymore.......the side is a disgrace and insult to Bok rugby. 
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
15 Nov 2013, 06:02
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15 Nov 2013, 06:02#9

 If this is the Boks' strongest team then you have big problems! Why is Goosen even on tour? Is he going to get a run??

Hasbeeno scoffed at the ABs at the start of the season as McCaw and Carter were still playing and now he's supporting the reintroduction of Bakkies the Bully!

Explain please Hasbeeno??

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Nov 2013, 10:21
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15 Nov 2013, 10:21#10
 
Meyer was clear on Goosen right from the start. He would not be part of any match ... he's there merely to absorb the Bok way of things.

How many more times must this be said????

Also, it was clearly mentioned that this tour would be used to see who's who in the zoo. Some will be kept and some will be dropped.

Meyer is looking at the likes of Lambie, Bakkies and Le Roux. All three could be discarded. That includes Pat Lambie, Mike!! I can hear old Mike and that fool Stupid bitching already

This also tells another story ... now pay attention Mike and you too Stupid ... Morne's spot is assured ... barring injury. Have you got that now.

Get over it. It's not going to change, so stop thrashing about on the floor. Either live with it or go support another team.

Obviously players like Arno Botha will be brought into the mix next year and put through the same qualifying tests.  

I am delighted with Meyer and his picks. I see what he's trying to achieve and look forward to seeing what else he has in mind.

Go Meyer!!!!

Go Bokke!!!





 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Nov 2013, 13:28
#11
15 Nov 2013, 13:28#11

Cleancut

 

The players to be discarded are not those mentioned by you - they should be Morne - top of the list always - since he buggers up more often than not - fat and lazy (playing 20 minutes in any game) Alberts, Kirchner, Steenkamp and ilk.  Better still Meyer should be discarded - the harkening back to the past wreck.    

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Nov 2013, 13:37
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15 Nov 2013, 13:37#12
 
He buggers up ... only in your opinion, Mike.

He shouldn't be discarded. He shouldn't even be on the discard list. He is our best 10 at the moment. Why on earth would we want to get rid of our best 10? Have you lost your mind?

As I said ... it's only in your opinion, Mike. Anyone with a brain will hang on to him.

Just like Alberts. An absolute class act but according to you should be discarded.

You see where I'm going with this, Mike.

You unfortunately do not even know that you do not know ... that's how lost you are.


MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
15 Nov 2013, 13:46
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15 Nov 2013, 13:46#13
 CC, Goosen's already played in 4 tests in the RC. Why does he need to absorb the Bok way of things? He should be absorbing the AB way of things shouldn't he??
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Nov 2013, 13:53
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15 Nov 2013, 13:53#14

Huh??
 
Moo-lala ... how was your snooze?

It seems you still have a little sleep in the corners of your eyes. Why don't you wipe it out and wake up a little, bro.

That way I'll be able to understand you a little better.

Now try again ... what's this twaddle about absorbing the All Blacks way of thing?




MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
15 Nov 2013, 14:05
#15
15 Nov 2013, 14:05#15
 Well CC, if he absorbed the AB way of things then he may learn how to WIN instead of LOSING!Dawned on you yet??
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Nov 2013, 14:14
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15 Nov 2013, 14:14#16

Cleancut

 

I indicated very clearly in my first post under this thread of what I thought of the team selected by Meyer in this case.   Now you add further to my disgust by adding frivolous comments.  How many times must Morne lose matches for SA - like the Ellis Park debacle - before you realise he is a dumb flyhalf?   How mny deficient performnces before Alberts should go?  Forgotten entirely about the Ellis Park test alread y?

 

So -

 

HO-HO-HO-HO-HO.  

 

 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Nov 2013, 14:31
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15 Nov 2013, 14:31#17
 
I don't know what your talking about, Mike.

They had a different game plan at Ellis Park. It called for high risk play. Don't tell me your still trying to grasp that concept?

So what are you talking about, Mike?

Morne is fine. Leave him be. He will still win us many a test match ... not that you'll ever acknowledge you were wrong.

Still waiting for the Alberts apology. That coming round soon?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Nov 2013, 14:35
#18
15 Nov 2013, 14:35#18

Cleancut

 

Game plan or no game plan - Morne buggered up badly because of his lack of ball sense and poor defence.   And so did FATSO Alberts.

 

No apology forthcoming - Alberts is bloody fat and useless 80% of the time. ,   

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Nov 2013, 14:37
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15 Nov 2013, 14:37#19
 
Aaaaaaaaah ... so moolala ... what your actually saying is, your bored stiff ... and you just wanted to jaw a bit.

Be it the usual nonsense we've learnt to expect from you.

Why didn't you just say so man. So friggin long winded!!

Hmmmmmmmmm?? ... let me see?? ... umm?? ... nah, sorry man!! I have difficulty understanding moron at the best of times.

Mike is already pushing my understanding of his version to the limits ... but hey ... rain cheque???

 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Nov 2013, 14:43
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15 Nov 2013, 14:43#20
 
Ok so I was right ... you still haven't grasped the concept yet!!

Well sorry Mike ... I really am not in the mood to slowly explain it to you again.

Moolala is also wanting my attention.

Tell you what ... you two speak to each other ... I'm convinced you guys are a perfect match.

Think of the hours of meaningless banter you two could enjoy ... hey ... what ya think?


MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
16 Nov 2013, 01:09
#21
16 Nov 2013, 01:09#21
 Yawn, stretch, snooze......
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Nov 2013, 01:21
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16 Nov 2013, 01:21#22
The perfect harmony is in this case embodies  the Death March of Springbok rugby.   
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