15 Le Roux 6/10
14 Moodie 5,5/10
13 kriel 5,5/10
12 De Allende 8,5/10
11 Mapimpi 7/10
10 Wi llemse 7/10
9 Hendriks 7,5/10
8 Wiese 7/10
7 Mostert 6/10
6 Kolisis 7/10
5 De Jager 8/10
4 Etzebeth 7/10
3 Malherbe 6,5/10
2 Marx 9/10
1 Kitshoff 6,5/10
Hendriks was the best backline player. 2 quick-fire tries, to add to his overall consistent all-round game.
Faff came on, and before long was lucky not to get a yellow card for tackling in the air.
He also missed the try where another Bok got pinged for the high tackle roll out of desperation to protect the line.
Delande had a good game, but still a few blunders. When he had an open try line, I am surprised he didn't just run flat out - even just to gain territory.
Concerned about the form of Malherbe, and Nykana. Bok scrum was solid, but we never dominated them as expected.
Bok defence was good at first, but eventually they gave away 2 yellow cards to protect their line
The rolling maul went well as did the lineouts. Having Marx start was noticeably better than Dweeb
Dud Allende rounded with ease, throwing inept passes…..unwilling to try to run in a clear try ….an 8.5. Gosh. He did some some decent things on defence and tractored away as usual. If he were a flank and he had made a few turnovers he might rate a 7.
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Nyakane will never be replaced by a superior props as he is blacks and it will lower the kpi
soooo ... according to comrade mike ... de lindy was the 2nd best bok on the park ... and the weedy lood chalked up 3rd spot.
haaahaha!!
well I suppose we could have expected a little bias as both are favourites of his.
must say Im surprised he didnt give his friend malherbe a score closer to 10.
The facts Are simple - I give credit to people scoring tries and then add it to the assessment for the rest of the game. I do not give credit to players who make tackles - without looking at the quality of tackles - in other words whether players were assisted in making tackles by others or the team or whether the tackles made are of people going forward when tackles are made or go backwards in tackles and that is where weakness of strength is concerned. I also consider te role players play in ball protection and recovery at breakdown situation.
A player making ineffective or weak assisted tackles should get less credit for the tackles than those of stronger tackles. That is where a player like Mostert fail. I also penalize people for missed tackles and giving away of penalties and cards are to be heavily penalized. The fact is that if De Allende did not score that try the Springboks could easily have lost the game. The way he scored was telling - three Argentine players tried unsuccessfully to stop the try.
The Springbok backline defense disintegrated with Steyn at flyhalf and the scoring of that last try of the Argentinians proved that.
um ... comrade ... Im confused ... you seem to have double standards here.
if trys are what you need to score high with you ... then why did hendrikse only score a 7.5? surely he deserved at least a 9 going according to your silly score chart?
he was easily the best backline player in the game ... 2 trys and far more consistent than the blundering idiot de lindy.
why have you overlooked de lindys many blunders.
huh?
could it be favouritism perhaps?
are you saying that de lindy was on his way to a perfect 10 had he not made so many stupid mistakes?
luckily this board has an edit facility ... I would use it if i were you.
de lindy was worth a 6 ... nothing more.
as for lood .. your other favourite ... give him the 5 he deserves ...
oh an for your info ... there is no such thing as a perfect score in any sport.
the best score should have gone to marx and hendrikse ... a 7
Plum
The only prejudiced people on site are those i gnoring real evidence. De Allende missed 1 tackle and Kriel missed 2.
So here are the attacking stats of De Allende yesterday:
0310641400Just talking about prejudice - are you sure you are not prejudiced?
DDA is only good at 1 thing, crash and forming rucks.....and Boks was not up to standard..scrum was demolished after malherbe left....there is to many players in the Squad that is either there because of Political and sentimental reasons.....its BS and on top of that still the boring 1 Gameplan with a Pisio as head coach....stampkar party is all they have at the Moment....
Subtract the intercept and Dud made 30 metres in 9 carries….the usual 3 metres and a cloud of dust. Mike mentions Allende missed 1 tackle….he doesn’t mention he made only 4. And what an embarrassing miss, rounded with ease.
I will have watch this game again. The Boks came out half a sleep in the 2nd half and nearly through it away with dumb penalties.
I wonder whether it is even worth these days committing a fowl and getting a yellow card when it end up being a penalty try and you end up going down to 14 or even 13.
I thought that the ref was consistent on both sides.
Why not try to defend and if they score, at least we still have 15 players.
A good kick chase in the right part of the field can easily negate the try with the correct attack
Marx is playing on a next level. Another full game.
Kolisi went quiet again. I'm with Mike that tackles alone are not good enough.
However, dominant tackles that turned into a turnover or knock on should be highly appreciated. Or try saving tackles are equally important.
Kwagga tackle was controversial. Way back when it would have stood but not sure if that guy would have score if he reached.
But one thing that is for certain, the new tackle rules and strictness is actually enabling higher scoring games or am I wrong
Mozart
I answered a simple question when i refer to the 1 missed tackle. Did De Allende attempted a tackle "when he was rounded with ease"? Yu know you are usually talking shit - hence the question. By the way missed tackles always indicated an attempt to tackle and failed - so please deal with the answer objectively. I did not mention the 4 tackles made - I answered a question
What intercept are you talking about? He actually made 2 when the Argentinians were attacking and save a nearly perfect scoring opportunity by them. You missed that one - but one must accept that your prejudice is total and expect total BS as well.
I quoted the other stats and you ridiculously reduced the number of meters made by your own "estimate". We know by now what that means - a total distortion as to what actually happened is clearly in evidence from your past descriptions of incidents in matches.
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It was actually quite hilarious to see Dud’s confusion in open space. No doubt he was desperately looking for somebody to barge into….hahaha. Imagine playing outside Dud, knowing he is never going to pass you the ball…leaving you, the number 13, to a role of protecting the ball after Dud makes his 2 metre bursts.
haaahaha!!
its good to see you trying to help Stupid Dave understand the game a little better, Plum.
You do know that its like farting against thunder though, right?
anyway ... i guess its the thought that counts.
12. Damian de Allende – 7
Great on defence and with the ball in hand. Butchered a certain try early in the second half, but scored a crucial try with a power play late in the second half.
7. Franco Mostert – 8
A bit over-eager at the breakdown, but his work at ruck and maul time can’t be ignored. He also made a match-high 17 tackles.
Sounds to me like DDA is messing up the back line while Mostert is keeping three people busy so that Marx can shine.
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Bullshit from Mozart as expected. I saw the miss tackle and it has nothing to do with what the dim prejudiced BSter wrote on site.
As to the contribution of Plum - to he ruck contribution was imaginary - he did not his normal in not going into rucks - he did in this game - but it led to nothing - the Springboks gain zero from his so-called ruck contribution. No turnovers made and only ball retention - more due to other players in the mauls. He man is not physically strong enough to make real contributions to rucks and his line-out work is also weak at the best of times. Despite the 17 tackles Moster - in most of which he was assisted by other players - Mostert deserves nothing more than 6,5/10
I am still waiting to see the butchered try by De Alleede anyway. We had so much loadshedding that I had not seen that segment of the game yet - but I hope Dave will write something on the incident.
When De Allende scored tries or assisted in scoring tries there is dead quiet on your part ord misrepresentations on the part of Mozart - so let leave the isue there.
