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Perspective required when rating Stormers

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Jul 2012, 10:42
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30 Jul 2012, 10:42#1

JON CARDINELLI of keo  writes the Stormers’ campaign was compromised by a high injury count rather than a characteristic lack of composure.

The manner of defeat was disappointing, but was the result really that unexpected? This is the question Stormers fans should be asking following Saturday’s semi-final defeat.

It is usually the case that a team’s success is determined by how far it progresses in a particular tournament. For a regular play-off contender like the Stormers, a Super Rugby title win should denote success.

The Cape side has lost two finals and three semi-finals in the space of three seasons (You mean 5 seasons surely). Their title drought has spanned 11 long years. These are the numbers that critics and fans care about, and these are the facts that will be cited when most deliver their damning post-season reviews.

But to accept this view is to subscribe to a perception that is simplistic, narrow and more than a little hysterical. (Exactly so!)

I don’t believe the Stormers’ game plan and selections have been flawless, but I do believe the 2012 season has been different to those of the past.

It’s unfair to marvel at the manner in which the Stormers have responded to the challenges of the past five months and then denounce a play-off failure as just another in a long line of mental mishaps. (It maybe nonsese but that would stop half brained twits from doing precisely that) Indeed, what the Stormers have succeeded in doing this year is convincing a lot of people that they could survive without several key players. In reality, how can a team be expected to go on and win a championship when they’ve lost the quality of Schalk Burger and Duane Vermeulen? (As Beeno has been pointing out - take two world class players out and it makes a difference. Oh but the half brained say thats an excuse. No says the very wise Beeno its a fact - guess who wins the argument hnads down!) The Crusaders are always a less daunting prospect when Richie McCaw and Dan Carter are unavailable, and as the recent season will confirm, the Bulls are easier to beat now that Victor Matfield and Fourie du Preez have moved on.(Sorry the absence of victor was a blessing. The 107 kg pap "lock" has been a big handicap for the bulle lfor many years) Every team must cope with injuries and losses, but the Stormers’ loose forward stocks were depleted to the point where they had lost their capable reserves as well as their stars.

Nick Koster and Nizaam Carr were ruled out, forcing Rynhardt Elstadt to move from lock to flank. Sanzar turned down the Stormers’ request to include Canadian Jebb Sinclair in the play-offs, necessitating Deon Fourie’s shift from hooker to No 8. Club players like Don Armand and Tyrone Holmes were also promoted to the greater squad.

The Stormers’ results may have convinced the rugby public that they were capable of absorbing the losses, and credit must go to the coaching staff as well as the youngsters for fueling that belief.

Eben Etzebeth, Steven Kitshoff, Siya Kolisi… these are the rookies who made it look so easy during the regular season; they convinced everybody that the gap between junior rugby and Super Rugby was really not that big. On Saturday, however, we were reminded exactly why experience is crucial in play-off matches. 9Not only experience but playing abilty. Please do not compare Burger and Vermulen with Kolis and even Deon Fourie. Burger an dvermulen bring huge physicality to the Stormers)

Etzebeth was the exception in the semi-final, showing a temperament and attitude that belied his years, but the other youngsters in the Stormers side didn’t rise for the big occasion. As a result, the Stormers weren’t successful as a collective.

I’m not suggesting that the Stormers are absolutely without fault. I maintain that their kicking game is inadequate, and it was certainly a weakness in their most recent defeat.

Peter Grant has proved a match-winner in front of goal, but his line-kicking is not up to standard.(I called it a pop gun kick - Beeno correct toa fault!) Coetzee complained that the Stormers couldn’t get out of their half in Saturday’s semi-final, and Grant’s boot was partially to blame.

Usually this weakness is offset by the contributions of Dewaldt Duvenage and Joe Pietersen, but when those players don’t come to the party, the Stormers struggle to win the territorial battle.

The set piece is still an area of concern. Kitshoff has emerged as one of the finds of the season, but as a unit, that Stormers scrum has been too inconsistent. The lineout is not the force it was in 2010, as the hookers are struggling to find their jumpers. The much vaunted maul has also delivered an underwhelming showing.

While these shortcomings and areas of concern need to be addressed, there should also be some perspective. The injury situation has forced many forwards to play out of position, and the changes in personnel has often prevented the pack from settling, even if that lack of synergy has rarely been reflected in the results.

Somehow the Stormers managed to top the log with what they had, somehow they managed to convince many people that they had a shot at winning the title. And who knows, if they had won through to a home final, it may have been possible. (Came very close in thoe closing 15 minutes)

There are reasons to feel encouraged if you consider that Burger and Vermeulen will be back for the 2013 season and a number of youngsters will be going into their second season with plenty of starting experience.

While there should never have been an expectation to win the 2012 trophy following the loss of so many key players, there will be great expectations for the Stormers to go all the way in 2013.

For now, a little perspective should ease the pain that accompanies a play-off defeat. Fans and critics must also accept the fact that the Stormers were beaten by the most complete side in the tournament.

I would like to see a few quality backs making an appearance. I think Van Der Heever should get a permanent spot on the wing and I say again I do not like to many small backs so Joe and Aplon must not be on the park at the same time.

While the pack should be the best in the competition next year (barring injuries) its the backline that needs attention. Coetzee and Fleck are not up to it.  What a pity we lost Rassie. We need a smart head coach and a backline coach as well. Get in Venter and Mallet.  Kick out the rotten apples running the WP show and we will soar to great hights. Stop exporting talent by getting the finances sorted out.

That said congrats to the Mighty Stormers for topping the log and wining the SA Conference trophy.  Harken unto the wise word of Beeno WP and the future success is assured.

By the way the players the bulle have misse are Steenkamp, gary Botha Bakkies and Danie rossouw. They have definitely NOT missed pap victor!

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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
30 Jul 2012, 11:15
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30 Jul 2012, 11:15#2

nothing wrong with the players but rather the approach/gameplan and skillset is utter rubbish. you need to have a decent attack and defence to compete in super rugby. defence only does not win the comp. to be fair i cant really see how the loss of burger and vermeulen is such a massive impact seeing that stormers still managed to scrape through all there games without them the whole season. they have enough leaders in the team to make up for it. mentally they are frail and that stems from the coaches i believe. the sharks had just as much injuries if not even more than the stormers so i cant see how that is relevant do there past 11/12 odd years of major thropy drought !!!!.

AC lacks the skills and abilty to change his way of thinking. if one becomes predicable then you become beatable

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Jul 2012, 11:51
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30 Jul 2012, 11:51#3

Oh so losing Burger the SA player of the year for 2011 and a world class lose foward is of no moment. Meyer has also described Vermulen as world class . So losing two players of this calibre is of no moment and could not possibly have effected what tuned into a close match!!

As I pointed out ths Stormers style depends on forward dominance. The pack did pretty well and came back strongly in the second half. Had Burger and Vermuelen been present they would have dominated completey - apart from the scrum where in the first half the Sharks were good.

I fully agree though re Alistair and have expressed my thoughts on this on numerous occassions.   Also I think we are not getting the best out of thebacklin either and have said long ago that neither Alistair or Fleckie have much of a clue when it comes to coaching a backline. All this is OLD hat.

Part of the problem was also losing so many backline players including Jaque Fourie 9which in his case could no tbe helped). This has to stop. Bulle etc can take our left overs  I am not a mean person!!

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