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16 Aug 2014, 16:43
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16 Aug 2014, 16:43#1

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.

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16 Aug 2014, 16:49
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16 Aug 2014, 16:49#2
   kiwi blaming the ref? I did not think that was possibale?
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16 Aug 2014, 17:01
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16 Aug 2014, 17:01#3
hey Sharkie, he was consistently bad for both sides. His decisions against both sides were atrocious and lacked common sense. I have been CONSISTENTLY bleating about this clown during the S15 and also during the ABs NH end of year tours. He is downright aweful. He was so bad he even tried to take Folau out.

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16 Aug 2014, 17:29
#4
16 Aug 2014, 17:29#4
 Peyper can't even tackle 
Hakwa ya don't show up until it is too late man, lol we needed you.
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16 Aug 2014, 18:13
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16 Aug 2014, 18:13#5
 
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16 Aug 2014, 18:14
#6
16 Aug 2014, 18:14#6
 Poor Jaco Peyper - he landed on his backside and now h e gets blamed for the AB's wanting to play according to their own rules and then penalizing them.  Very bad world out there.    
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16 Aug 2014, 19:28
#7
16 Aug 2014, 19:28#7
 Give me Joubert or Kaplan any day. At least when they make a booboo, there was some intelligent process going on that even if it did not go your way you could appreciate their call.

This clown is utterly CLUELESS. I am even angry at some of the calls made against the Wallabies. What an IDIOT.
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16 Aug 2014, 20:04
#8
16 Aug 2014, 20:04#8
Wehe!
There's been some classic irony on this board recently!
First we had Moffie calling someone else a liar, then we had Ceradunce calling someone else a coward and now we have the Kiwis bleating and whining about the naughty ref who cheated them!
LMAO!
Come on Bokke!
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16 Aug 2014, 20:07
#9
16 Aug 2014, 20:07#9
Boks are way ahead right now (4 points)
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16 Aug 2014, 21:01
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16 Aug 2014, 21:01#10
 @rooinek,
I cannot see any "Kiwis bleating and whining about the naughty ref who cheated them!".
One thing is saying that the ref was bad or that "he was consistently bad for both sides" and another one very different what the saffa fans usually do, I mean, bleating, whining and blaming the ref for their loses .

Jaco Peyper was worst than bad but I don't think he affected the result because he was as bad for both teams
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16 Aug 2014, 21:20
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16 Aug 2014, 21:20#11
 "One thing is saying that the ref was bad or that "he was consistently bad for both sides" and......."

Poor effort at trying to disguise the whining and blaming. Take off your blinkers and observe:

"The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA."




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16 Aug 2014, 21:23
#12
16 Aug 2014, 21:23#12
ABasquefan, you've been around long enough to know the treatment that Springbok supporters get on this board when they use the ref as an excuse. I would be a hypocrite if I had a laugh at them for their pathetic excuse-making and didn't do likewise when the AB supporters do exactly the same thing.
I'll tell you (and hakwa) the exact same thing that I tell the SA crybabies who harp on about the ref whenever they feel wronged . . . Jaco Peyper did not make it into the IRB elite panel of referees because he's the incompetent moron that you guys are trying to make him out to be, he is a test match referee because he's among the most competent referees in the world and if that's not good enough for you, then either find another sport to watch or else start looking for extra-terrestrial life-forms who never make mistakes.
You guys can blather on about how he was "bad for both sides" until the cows come home (in much the same way that SA fans still bleat and whine about Bryce Lawrence today) but the FACT of the matter remains . . . Bryce Lawrence, Jaco Peyper, Steve Walsh, Nigel Owens and whichever other test match referees you care to name are infinitely more qualified than you, me or any of the ref-bashing crybabies could ever hope to be. Most of the loud-mouthed "supporters" who love to squeal about the ref couldn't actually explain even one law of rugby to someone else.
If you can name 10 or more better referees than Jaco Peyper then please speak up . . . I'm sure the IRB will be very keen to sign new and better referees onto their panel. If you're just going to name Craig Joubert then that doesn't help very much because Craig Joubert can't ref every game and trust me, there are literally tens of thousands of rugby fans out there who think Craig Joubert is an incompetent fool because he once made a mistake that cost their precious team a penalty or a try.
Ref-bashing is both ignorant and pathetic. I'll always stick up for the ref because I'm not so conceited and stupid as to think I could do a better job. The refs we have are the best qualified people on the planet so give them the respect they deserve or else go bleat like a little baby about some other sport.
Oh and please note, everything I've said in defence of Jaco Peyper I've also said in defence of Bryce Lawrence and I'll continue to defend rugby referees against the snivelling crybabies who always blame them whenever they need an easy excuse.
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16 Aug 2014, 21:33
#13
16 Aug 2014, 21:33#13
 Rooi: is it fair to call weee Beeno a snivelling cry baby?
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16 Aug 2014, 21:41
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16 Aug 2014, 21:41#14
Just_win, yes, it's fair to call Baboon-ou a snivelling crybaby. When it comes to ref-bashing, he is the worst I've seen.
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16 Aug 2014, 22:14
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16 Aug 2014, 22:14#15
 @rooinek,
"Jaco Peyper did not make it into the IRB elite panel of referees because he's the incompetent moron that you guys are trying to make him out to be"

I just said that he had a "worst than bad" day, nothing about beeing he a moron or about beeing incompetent for ref test matches. Nothing.
I rate also Peyper btwin the best 10 refs in the world but this doesn't mean that he cannot have a bad day. Even Joubert and Walsh, who I rate as the 2 bests, have their bad days.

"Ref-bashing is both ignorant and pathetic"

One thing is to bash refs and another one very different is to criticize them. And the refs, as everything in  this world, can be the subject of a critique. Even if they are "infinitely more qualified than you".
Ref bashing is what the sahffa fans usually do, not this. There¡s a huge difference.

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16 Aug 2014, 22:33
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16 Aug 2014, 22:33#16
I see . . . so if I understand you correctly, when NZ supporters have a little whinge about the ref then it's "criticizing" the ref but when SA supporters do the same thing then it's ref-bashing?
Is that about right?
Call it whatever you want but my original comments on this thread were inspired by the bleating of NZ fans who are always having a little pop at SA ref-bashers and I still think it's ironic. Squealing about a ref after your team has lost is always pretty pathetic in my opinion. I think the draw between the ABs and the Wallabies earlier today was a fair result and there's nothing Peyper did to influence that.
 
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16 Aug 2014, 22:40
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16 Aug 2014, 22:40#17
 @Rooinek. Correct and well said. Yes, decisions by refs can and do influence games but they are human and they are as much part of the game as the players. The crux is that the players make way more mistakes per game than the ref can ever make. Have a look at how many mistakes were made by players in the Aus/NZ game:

NZ:
14 Penalties conceded. That is 14 mistakes by players..... not the ref.
3 Free kicks. That is another 3 mistakes by players and not the ref.
13 Turnovers conceded. That is 13 mistakes by players and not the ref.
2 Yellow cards. Those were due to player mistakes, not ref mistakes.

How many mistakes did Peyper make?

If you look at the individual mistakes:
McCaw was penalised three times. Those were player mistakes, not refereeing mistakes.
Crockett was penalised three times. Again they were player mistakes and not refereeing mistakes.

How come nobody is moaning about any of the players who cost their team?

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16 Aug 2014, 22:47
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16 Aug 2014, 22:47#18
 If you cannot see the difference btwin the boks' supporters behaviour toward the refs and the AB's supporters' in this site..........

It's like the general behaviour. It's very very rare to see 2 AB's supporters insulting themselves and what's still more rare is to find a thread where there's no insults btwin the saffas.
I don't think that all this can be applied to all the boks' and AB's supporters but it's the reality of this site. As it's a reality in this site that the boks' supportes use to bash and blame the refs for their loses, at least in a way that the AB's supporters don't do.

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16 Aug 2014, 22:54
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16 Aug 2014, 22:54#19
 Clearly you both don't want to understand Absaquefan's point so you must be having a dig, lol Since you mentioned it here are the player ratings by Rugby 365 author De Vries.
AB Player ratings
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16 Aug 2014, 23:02
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16 Aug 2014, 23:02#20
Frankly I'm not sure there was a ruck anymore when Barrett kicked the ball back. To me it seemed like general play and the yellow was very harsh.  
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16 Aug 2014, 23:05
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16 Aug 2014, 23:05#21
This quote is from the Ozzie rugby web site the ROAR
"South African Jaco Peyper’s pedantic and, at times, bemusing refereeing reduced the much-anticipated trans-Tasman showdown to a dour, stop-start affair in front of a 68,627 fans."

Full article
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16 Aug 2014, 23:12
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16 Aug 2014, 23:12#22
 @JW. No, my friend. You are the one that is not understanding. The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref.

I have gone one further and said that for sure the refs do make mistakes as well, but they are not the real culprits. The players, who make way more mistakes than the refs, are the culprits when it comes to losing games. What I did was to point out the numbers of mistakes made by players in this particular game.

You are welcome to search and find a game where I have blamed the ref for an outcome of a game. Two important examples are the infamous Bismarck red card. You will find that I have never denied that Poite made a terrible mistake in teh game, bit I have always ever blamed Bismarck himself for being sent off.

I have never blamed Bryce Lawrence for us losing that RWC QF. Ou Beenbal still, to this day, believe that I am a closet AB supporter because of that. I have always been a big fan of Danie Rossouw but he was the one who put the final nail in our coffin in that game. One of the three other culprits was Schalk Burger for knocking the ball with an open try-line. The ref had no influence on these two incidents. The second one was none other than Fourie du Preez. On a number of occasions, when we were awarded penalties within range, he kept on taking quick taps and try to score tries, instead of taking the points on offer. The last one was John Smith. He also did not opt for taking penalty points that were on offer. He had Morne kicking for touch at a number of times when we needed to increase our lead. Bryce Lawrence was horrendous on the day but ultimately we dug our own graves.

Yes, I do agree that there are a bunch of sour pusses whose first option is to blame the ref but I agree with Rooinek in this instance and you said that we both do not see his point.

As far as the Saffas' "infighting" on the board is concerned..... remind us again why the AB board was closed down.
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16 Aug 2014, 23:23
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16 Aug 2014, 23:23#23
 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. There's a huge difference btwin saying that a ref has been bad and blaming him of, in this case, tthe draw. If you cannot get it it's your own problem
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16 Aug 2014, 23:23
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16 Aug 2014, 23:23#24
@ABasquefan
The All Blacks have had their best winning streak in years, so they have not had much opportunity to blame the referee. 
When New Zealand lost the world cup in 1995 in South Africa, they were poisoned. Apparently it was food poisoning. The host county South Africa were accused of poisoning them....
When they lost against france in 2007, Graeme Henry said their was match fixing. That the referee was involved in a conspiracy to make sure the All Blacks lost.....
Both of these were the worst display of being sour losers in that the game has ever seen. FACT
If the All Blacks get beat in the 2014 world cup it will be the biggest conspiracy of all with JFK, Elvis and who ever else involved.
When the shoe is on the other foot, the pot calls the kettle black.
One question though, if you are from France why are you even commenting on All Blacks and New Zealand Fans?  
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16 Aug 2014, 23:27
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16 Aug 2014, 23:27#25
 @ceradyne,
no one has neither said that you have blamed any ref.
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28#26
ABasquefan
 
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August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
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August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28#27
ABasquefan
 
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August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28#28
ABasquefan
 
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August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
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Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28#29
ABasquefan
 
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August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
#30
16 Aug 2014, 23:28#30
ABasquefan
 
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August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
#31
16 Aug 2014, 23:28#31
ABasquefan
 
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August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
sharkbok
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
#32
16 Aug 2014, 23:28#32
ABasquefan
 
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August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
sharkbok
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
#33
16 Aug 2014, 23:28#33
ABasquefan
 
Status: Squad member 
Posts: 340RE: Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
sharkbok
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
#34
16 Aug 2014, 23:28#34
ABasquefan
 
Status: Squad member 
Posts: 340RE: Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 21:23:15 @ceradyne,

"The point that we are both making is that we gets pissed off when you start blaming the ref."

I challenge you to point where someone here has blamed the ref. 

 
Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2313Peyper Peyper Peyper
August 16, 2014, 14:43:50

The worst ref ever - he really must stop letting the Wallabies off the hook. He has absolutely NO IDEA.


Please SANZAR, don't ever let this man anyway near a Wallabies vs ABs Test Match ever again.


Are you by any chance really stupid? 
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16 Aug 2014, 23:28
#35
16 Aug 2014, 23:28#35
 SB, you have left out Gaddafi, Osama Bin Laden and Sad dam Hussein.
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16 Aug 2014, 23:39
#36
16 Aug 2014, 23:39#36
ceradyne: AB.com was mainly shut down because of a poster called Raging Bok a SA supporter - he made people on this site look tame. 
There was another bloke who showed up from time to time called Beeno but I don't think we can blame him on this occassion, lol Or maybe we can
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16 Aug 2014, 23:49
#37
16 Aug 2014, 23:49#37
 "Are you by any chance really stupid?"

see what I was saying about behaviour, rooinek?
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17 Aug 2014, 00:06
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17 Aug 2014, 00:06#38
 Just finished work today and went to Supersport to get some comment on the game.

Australia were left to rue opportunities squandered against New Zealand after playing out a draw that means the Wallabies must secure their first victory away from home against their arch rivals in 13 years to avoid another Bledisloe Cup defeat.

Australia held New Zealand to a 12-12 draw in their Rugby Championship opener on Saturday to prevent the All Blacks from claiming a world record 18th consecutive win. (Talk about justice being done!)

The Wallabies, however, were left wondering how they failed to win a game they dominated in all but the scoreline - having enjoyed greater possession, more metres with ball in hand and more territory.(It would appear that OZ were very much the superior team which comes as no suprprise to me)

"We wanted to win the game," said Australia coach Ewen McKenzie. "All our preparation was about winning, we don't go out there to have draws so it is a bit of a hollow outcome in that sense."

Australia captain Michael Hooper shared his coach's disappointment.

"There were a few incidences there where we were just a few metres out, different things could happen, we could have got that try there and it's a different game," said Hooper.

They twice failed to capitalise on a one-man advantage after New Zealand prop Wyatt Crockett was sin-binned just before halftime and replacement back Beauden Barrett was given a yellow card with just over 10 minutes remaining.

Hooper decided against kicking for goal on a number of occasions before halftime, allowing New Zealand to go into the break with a 9-3 lead.

"We felt like we were getting the upper hand. They had a card. I thought we could get the ascendancy there," Hooper said.

McKenzie backed the decision, but had flyhalf Kurtley Beale slotted any of the three attempts, Australia may have secured their first victory over New Zealand since 2011.

Australia will now have to beat New Zealand next week to have any chance of securing the Bledisloe Cup for the first time since 2002.

Australia last beat New Zealand away from home in 2001.

The match is at Auckland's Eden Park, a venue where the All Blacks have not tasted defeat in 20 years, while a third clash outside the Rugby Championship will be played later in the season.

Despite the missed opportunity Hooper said the Wallabies can take heart in pushing the world champions so close.

"It is certainly a good challenge and we certainly have some momentum heading into it. It is a fantastic opportunity," said Hooper.

Seems the better side didnt get the result on the scoreboard. Join the club Wobblies we know all about it.

Now I see the kbbs blaming the ref - i suppose all the calls didnt go their away for once? bwhahahahaha

I also see that the noted half wit rooitiwt is complaining about my principled objection to bent refs.  Ou rooitwit thought bryce lawrence did a good job. Ha hahahahahahaha



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17 Aug 2014, 00:17
#39
17 Aug 2014, 00:17#39
". . . see what I was saying about behaviour, rooinek?"
Yes, I know what you mean but please don't lump the majority of South Africans with a childish, spiteful and attention-seeking rugby noob like SharkTwat.
Look, I do understand the difference between criticizing a ref's performance and blaming a ref for a loss but tell me, are you guys trying to pretend it's a just a big coincidence that all this bleating about Jaco Peyper started a few minutes after today's game ended?
I'm afraid it still sounds to me like Kiwis blaming the ref for ending the AB's streak . . . and you have to admit that's ironic considering the fact that you Kiwi's generally have a good laugh at the South Africans for doing exactly the same thing.
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17 Aug 2014, 00:18
#40
17 Aug 2014, 00:18#40
Beeno: we have just finished blaming you for shutting down AB.com & you show up. Sorta like that guy beetle juice
I see you have been reading that rag SuperSport. I find their articles are ok but some of the comments that show up in bold are irrational.

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