On what you all have seen so far, name your test XV. Mine:
15.Joe Pietersen (Stormers)
14.JP Pietersen (Sharks)
13.Juan de Jongh (Stormers)
12.Francois Steyn (Racing)
11.Bryan Habana (Stormers)
10.Morne Steyn (Bulls)
09.Francois Hougaard (Bulls)
08.Nick Koster (Stormers)
07.Schalk Burger (c) (Stormers)
06.Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs)
05.Andries Bekker (Stormers)
04.Eben Etzebeth (Stormers)
03.Jannie du Plessis (Sharks)
02.Chiliboy Ralapelle (Bulls)
01.Gurthro Steenkamp (Toulouse)
Pick Your Bok Side
Not bad at all. I might swop 15 for Lambie and 2 for Strauss either way they'd be in my 22. Spies wouldn't make my 22.
I certainly have no issue with Lambie at 15, but seeing Joe back again... it's a tough call. Lots of places up for grabs, but with a view to continuity I have no issue with the retention of Fourie, or maybe even Bakkies. In a vulnerable team that presence and the respect that they garner from opposition players and coaches will be important. But that backline looks very nifty. I'm not a hundred-percent on our 8th man, and Jannie's form is a concern. Strauss over Bismarck any day ;) lol
This would be a Bok pack I would like to see in action:
Coenie Oosthuizen 127kg
Bismark 111 kg
Malherbe/WP Nel 120 kg
Etzebeth 120 kg
Bekker 120 kg
6 Burger 111 kg
8 Vermulen 116 kg
7 Elstadt 118 kg
TOTAL - 943 kg.
Now that pack would really mince the opposition.
Backs also need beefing up Card!!!
Hougaard, Morne, Habana , Frans, Jean, Petersen and Taute. These micro light backs will not cut it or give you an edge in a tri nations series.
Your lightweight pack and backs would I think not make much of an impression.
Forward domination is the key for Bok rugby and always has been. I could accept a loose trio of Burger , Koster and Vermulen. Koster at 110 kg these days is acceptable and adds pace.
Lets cut the cackle and play some hard rugby. Have the abs quaking in their boots. (Aaaaah how I enjoy the freedom we have here and absence of a few you know who!)
"(Aaaaah how I enjoy the freedom we have here and absence of a few you know who!)"
Bwhahahahahahaha Yes, it's so refreshing .........can't say I miss that bunch of lowest common denominators.
Yup those rotten apples screwed up SS big time.
What do you think of my Bok power pack? Abs wold defintely be quaking in their boots when doing the haka. Would need to take medication!
Careful not to be hung up on weight. The biggest Bok pack we have ever fielded were easily man handled. The 2009 Bok pack you deride was the most brutal to date!
Aristocat this is not a big fat lumbering pack. That is the amazing thing about it. Even if you take out Elsdats at 7 and put in Koster at 8 (Vermulen to 7) it still weighs in at 935 kg!
Now you tell me who is big fat and slow?
No, this pack is what Meyer should be trying to emulate. Big athletic warriors. That is the Bok forward tradition.
No, Dave no place for wee daniels! Bwahahahahahahahaha
Looks like a stormer picked this side.... ;)
Picked on merit Johnny. How about your selection?
Johnny, you will soon learn that Beeno's uses a scale when he picks his side.
Jonny, I'm a Cheetah. At present I don't regard the Stormers side very highly, but when picking a Bok side? I think this is the one to go for. You'll find me quite impartial.
Johnny, we are all impartial here particulary me!
Windpomp instead of idle comments pluck up your courage and select a side. Lets see what you have.
Nee wat ou Beenbal, I am man enough to admit that I do not have the knwoledge to sit down and select a team. I just do not have the finer knowledge to do it. Unlike you, I understand that it is not as easy as pick the three heaviest front rows, followed by the two heaviest locks and the three heaviest loosies and give them a bok jersye each. I am just a rugby lover and like to watch the games, have some fun about it, and when the game is over, it is over. I do not break the furniture blame the ref and swear at the everybody when my team has lost. I watch to have a look at the game or highlights of it again, and makie my observations. Then, as soon as there are a bit of stats available on the internet, I like to compare that with what I have seen. This is normally where the fun and games start because then we have the stories about this player that and that player this, etc.
You, for instance have now got Vermeuelen in "your" Bok team, but have you really thought it through. I mean apart from, OK he weighs "116kg and he plays for the Stormers". If you have to be honest with yourself, can you really motivate who, at this very moment and with the amount of rugby played, has proven that he is so much better than Pierre Spies that he should replace him. I am not talking about sweeping statements like he disappears when his pack is on the backfoot, and all that kind of crap.
Coenie Oosthuizen has not played yet, and the last time he played he was not quite shithot from what I can remember.................. Oh shit, sorry I forget he weighs a ton and a half.
Fact is that it is waaaaay to early to start talking about a Bok team at this stage, and there is nothing we can do about that.
It is also no use saying:"Ja but last year this that and the other" That is history. New Coach. New approach to the rules. New players surfacing.
It may be way too early to talk about a Bok team, but it's never too early to have a bit of fun. So here's my team:
Lambie
JP
Jean
Frans
Habana
Morne
Hougaard
Beast
Bismarck
Jannie
Brussouw
Bekker
Etzebeth....confirmation needed
Coetzee...best young loosie in a while
Schalk ....capt
Not a bad side Moz. I would query your loose trio and some others forwards but the calls are not hugely out. Cant quibble about the backs too much.
As for ou windpomp. Well more hot air and no substance! ou windpomp is pomping!! Its what he does. man up and give it a shot windpomp. The worst that can happen is that you are wrong yet again! hahahahahahahahaa
Was Vermulen not up for SA Player of the year last year? There have also been frequent comments about how unlucky he has been not to get a Bok jersey. Coenie is already a Bok and a great ball player. He drives the ball up extremely well and works hard.
Mine would be:
15. Lambie
14. JP
13. Taute
12. Frans
11. Mvovo
10. Jantjies
9. Hougaard
1. Beast
2. Bismark
3. Mujati
4. Etzebeth
5. Bekker
6. Brussouw
7. Schalk
8. Spies
16. Pienaar
17. Goosen
18. Sadie
19. Coenie
20. Chiliboy
21. Flip
22. J.Strauss
Sorry guys but I think JP, Habana, Morne and Lambie have had their time. Some good plays but nothing that I would call exceptional for SA Rugby.
Here are my replacements for them:
15 Pietersen.
11. Aplon...this guy is metres faster than both Brian and JP, plus he has balls.
10. Goosen
14. van Rensberg(Lions)
8. Willem Alberts
4 and 5 Bekker, Sykes
2. Bismark with Strauss as repacement.
101. Waterboy....Chiliboy.
I also think guys like Duvenage(9 Stormers), Viljoen (Sharks) and the two new loose forwards from the Bulls are knocking for national selection.
Skalk is to injury prone to lead the team as well as giving away penalties at this stage of his nwind down.
If he was able to make it back I think Smith (Cheetas) is a much better choice and better respected by the players.
Some very bold moves there amongst the backs. I can't say I have seen Aplon play well on the wing for the Boks.Goose is a bit young for so many changes I feel, and Duvenage had a terrible 2011. Hopefully he'll turn that around this year. Viljoen is looking solid for the Sharks. Alberts actually performed well at lock last year, his better showins for the Boks! Perhaps something to explore?
Bloody hell Deon v/Rensburg is hardly CC standard - he is bog ordinary


