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Pierre Spies

Started by bluebok10 REPLIES274 VIEWS· 24 Jun 2013, 17:50
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
24 Jun 2013, 17:50
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24 Jun 2013, 17:50#1
I am a Bulls man through and through, but when I can't think of a reason for Spies to be in the team, then the question has to be asked. I used to be a fan, more recently I was on the fence, but now I just don't get it. He takes a couple of line-out throws every game and that is it. Compared with the other loose forwards he is just a passenger. There is probably an argument to be made for his leadership abilities, but there are enough leaders in the team, De Villiers, Strauss, BIzmark, Habana etc, so his leadership won't be missed. Long story short, he needs to be dropped and I'd be surprised if there is even one poster here, Bull or otherwise, who can give reasons to the contrary.
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ntangaClub Pro336 posts
24 Jun 2013, 18:12
#2
24 Jun 2013, 18:12#2
Spies shouldn't have been selected for the Bok's Squad last year either, zero performance. His inclusion into the Squad makes us a laughable by the likes of ABs and OZs. He probably doesn't deserve a first place in the Bulls, let alone the captaincy.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2013, 18:28
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24 Jun 2013, 18:28#3
Spies is an enigma - he has all the physical attribute to be a top loosie. Yet he under-performs continuously and I agree with the comments as indicated above
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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
24 Jun 2013, 19:05
#4
24 Jun 2013, 19:05#4

infairness to spies is really a winger playing 8th man......he himself does not like the mongrel aspect of playing in the forwards so i dont think that will change any time soon

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CheisNewbie7 posts
24 Jun 2013, 19:16
#5
24 Jun 2013, 19:16#5

@ carpetmucher

I completely agree!! Last few years in the instances he looked good on the field, was when his team was on the front foot, he had ball in hand and space in front of him (ideally with smaller players in front of him).

When he has to create space or front foot ball by bashing over the gain line / into other forwards, he goes in soft.. it's as if he forgets how much leg drive, muscle and weight he has. And shows no aggression to get over the ball or in and around rucks.

He is fast, is best in open space when he can either step or barge in to smaller players.. he is a wing

and useless between the forwards

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ntangaClub Pro336 posts
24 Jun 2013, 19:46
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24 Jun 2013, 19:46#6
C'mon guys, Spies a "winger", The speed he has is definitely not for a winger, he's fast for a loosie, but not for a winger. Lets put it in plain language, "the guys has lost the plot". Maybe he should change his career to professional Modelling, there is no physical contact as such in that business.
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dan danRookie46 posts
24 Jun 2013, 21:26
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24 Jun 2013, 21:26#7

Spies is terrible,would never ever pick him,he cant play wing either the man cant tackle and he looks like he has poor coordination

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2013, 21:40
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24 Jun 2013, 21:40#8
Spot on DanDan this guy's Amenhotep tackling style.....with two arms thrust out horizontally, would have been a disaster in the backline. Sometimes he bumps into somebody in open field....he doesn't tackle them. - There is no magic bullet for Spies. He has been a waste of time since RWC07.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Jun 2013, 00:57
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25 Jun 2013, 00:57#9

Blue, like you, I used to be a big fan, but those days are long gone. More than anything, Spies lacks finesse and above all lacks mongrel. Meyer's faith in him is as misplaced as his snubbing of Brussouw.

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Bok -Bef$KClub Pro216 posts
25 Jun 2013, 09:36
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25 Jun 2013, 09:36#10

Man I also used to be a fan, but hell this guy shy's away from anything. I was hoping he would have a great 2013 and it started not too badly with the first 3 games of super rugby but then no commitment once again.

Maybe he should focus on his guest house or go to japan or Europe. In Afrikaans he is just plain "banggat" if you ask me.

 

On the upside though (for the boks, not spies as a person) I see he is out for the remainder of 2013. Hopefully Duane will be back soon for the castle championship.

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EkPro1,464 posts
25 Jun 2013, 11:09
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25 Jun 2013, 11:09#11

 Hey BB, I suspect Duanne is also out for the season. This opens up possibilities at 8.

Playing Alberts at 8 for the RC could be the answer here.

Then we could have a combo of Flouw, Lappies and Alberts. With Kolisi on the bench able to cover all three positions in a crunch.

This might be our most versatileloose forward combination perhaps.

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