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PLAYER RATINGS: ALL BLACK COMEBACK; Rugby 365

Started by Just_win11 REPLIES285 VIEWS· 21 Sept 2015, 00:46
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Sept 2015, 00:46
#1
21 Sept 2015, 00:46#1
PLAYER RATINGS: ALL BLACK COMEBACKArgentina went into the sheds leading the All Blacks 13-12 but New Zealand had too much in the gas tank for the Pumas as they brushed them off in the second-half.

The introduction of Sonny Bill Williams was the catalyst for the All Black comeback and he was devastating for the World Champions.

Coach Steve Hanson will be relieved that his side came out on top in a tough encounter at Wembley. 

Andrew Duncan rates New Zealand!

15 Ben Smith:
Lived up to his reputation - was slippery on attack and ever so solid at the back.
7/10

14 Nehe Milner-Skudder:
Deer in the headlights at times. Didn't see much ball and dropped a pass in front of an open try-line.
4/10

13 Conrad Smith:
A quiet first-half, but burst into life in the second-half making carries and cleaning out well. A yellow card for a cynical penalty hurts his rating.
6/10

12 Ma'a Nonu:
Ordinary day at the office. Looked very static although at times made a few strong carries.
4/10

11 Julian Savea:
Was very busy, coming off his wing to look for work. Made plenty of hard yards brushing off tackles. Not to mention that bone-crunching tackle. All in all a good day for Savea. 
7/10

10 Daniel Carter:
A cool, calm and collected performance. Never once did he look rattled when the Pumas were dominating proceedings. 
8/10

9 Aaron Smith:
Also a quiet first half out-shadowed by his opposition but really started operating in the second-half with some awesome line-breaks and nifty footwork. Service was as good as ever. 
8/10

8 Kieran Read:
Defended very well and made strong carries up the flanks of the field. Although not the performance we are used to seeing from Read.
6/10

7 Richie McCaw (captain):
Was busy and worked hard at the breakdown but tripping a player is out of character for the New Zealand skipper.
5/10

6 Jerome Kaino:
A hard day at work for the big blindside flank. He carried in the tight, made some big tackles and did a tremendous amount of breakdown work.
7/10

5 Samuel Whitelock:
Quiet day for the line-out master. Spent most of the day tackling Creevy and Galarza. 
6/10

4 Brodie Retallick:
Huge performance including some deadly tackles and his usual quality rucking. A true enforcer. 
4/10

3 Owen Franks:
Powerful scrumming at times, but not consistent enough. Two scrum penalties went against him.
5/10

2 Dane Coles:
Very quiet for the speedy hooker. Average day at the office slipping a tackle and making only four.
4/10

1 Tony Woodcock:
Powerhouse in the scrums against one of the best scrumming unit in world rugby.
7/10

Replacements:

16 Keven Mealamu (on for Coles, 67th min):
Not enough time to be rated.

17 Wyatt Crockett (on for Woodcock, 45th min):
At least he wasn't penalised in the scrums. Held his own in the front-row.
6/10

18 Charlie Faumuina (on for Franks, 49th min):
Got around the park well for a big man, a good effort in the tight-loose.
6/10

19 Victor Vito (on for Retallick, 70th min):
Not enough time to be rated.

20 Sam Cane (on for Kaino, 64th min):
Didn't do much besides give a penalty away. He made his tackles and a couple of strong carries but didn't have enough time to get into the game.
5/10

21 TJ Perenara (on for A Smith, 68th min)
Not enough time to be rated.

22 Beauden Barrett (On for Milner-Skudder, 49th min)
A lot more prominent than Milner-Skudder. Barrett got the All Blacks out of jail a few times with his pace.
7/10

23 Sonny Bill Williams (on for Nonu, 45th min):
Made a huge difference when he came on. Instantly started sniping gaps and brushing off defenders. Also offloaded supremely.
8/10

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Sept 2015, 00:49
#2
21 Sept 2015, 00:49#2
 Retallick was man of the match so he must have done more than 4?
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
21 Sept 2015, 01:06
#3
21 Sept 2015, 01:06#3
 JW the ABS looked very rusty as they do after a longish break ,I dont know why the RC was cut short [ well it does give the aussies a chance to win something I guess ] as there would still have been time for a break as well .
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Sept 2015, 01:07
#4
21 Sept 2015, 01:07#4
What a laugh. The two AB props who had their heads handed to them get 7 and 5. I guess those scrumming penalties were gratuitous.
For the guy who was supposed to set the WC alight, Milner Scudder looked decidedly over his head.  
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
21 Sept 2015, 01:26
#5
21 Sept 2015, 01:26#5
 Might wanna take it easy there Moz ,after watching the bok forwards being backwards against Japan [ not a country noted for their forwards or scrumming ] throwing stones around might be a bit unwarranted.
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
21 Sept 2015, 01:41
#6
21 Sept 2015, 01:41#6
The Boks are carrying too many passengers and gave lost too many weapons. 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
21 Sept 2015, 01:44
#7
21 Sept 2015, 01:44#7
 Why no Brussow ? I really rate that dude .And why no Willy ? [ sounds like the opening line of a rude joke dunnit ?] Are the boks carrying a lot of injuries and trying keep em in cotton wool ? 
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
21 Sept 2015, 02:30
#8
21 Sept 2015, 02:30#8
 Think Retallick closer to a 14 than a 4 .
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
21 Sept 2015, 12:36
#9
21 Sept 2015, 12:36#9
Congrats to the AB's on doing what we could not, pulling it together when their backs were against the wall. One point I'd like to make is that even though the AB's are more blessed with talent than any other team in the world at the moment, they have looked vulnerable as a team this year. Not sure how that is even possible, but they nearly lost to Boks this year in a game the could have gone either way. They could very well have lost yesterday against the Argies, They did lose to Aus! The AB's should be dominating any opponent the come across, but they are not! I think they have a mental edge over basically any opponent, and I think that is what is getting them across the line in the close games. But they have been under performing for quite a while now, and I am not quite sure why that is.   
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Sept 2015, 12:48
#10
21 Sept 2015, 12:48#10
ABs underperformed as did the Boks of course. Is it all a case of the minnows playing all out with nothing to lose & our two teams being uptight?  
Sure the Boks fans can complain about the selections but they still should have won. In the case of the ABs the selections were fine but the first half was very average. Not discounting the fact that their opposition teams played very well of course.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
21 Sept 2015, 13:08
#11
21 Sept 2015, 13:08#11
 I reckon the ABS trust that no matter what they have the gas and ability to pull away in the final 20 ,time and again at the 60 min mark the subs come on [ all who seem to be moulded to fit that time in the game and add some punch rather than just some bloke who's not quite good enough to start ] and BAM !!!! Opponents looking around thinking 'wtf we were winning ,had it in the bag 10 minutes ago ?"
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
21 Sept 2015, 13:56
#12
21 Sept 2015, 13:56#12
 I think the note given to Retallick is a typo. You cannot say "Huge performance including some deadly tackles and his usual quality rucking. A true enforcer" and give him a 4.

As for the comparison btwin the AB and the boks,....... well, firstly Argentina it's not Japan (quite perogrullo). Argentina is IMO one of the group of second favs, being the favs :
1. New Zealand
2. Ireland
3. England (home advantage)
and after these main favs there's a group which includes Australia, France and Argentina (may be Wales but we'll see, too many injuries and lack depth).
Argentina is a very dificult team to win and the one playing against them in the knock-out stages will have to do a very good and hard job if they want to eliminate them.
I doubt very much, even if now it's completely posible, that Japan will go through their pool to the QF.
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