Habana on the left wing….Mapimpi is bog ordinary.
Jean de Villiers at 12….obvious.
Fourie du Preez…..if you are going to kick you might as well do it intelligently
Beast…..so much better than the pretenders.
Victor to add some lineout dominance and mobility.
The young Schalk….prior to his neck injury he was never out fetched and always on the ball.
Willem Alberts…..our last forward who could really break tackles.
Vermeulen….after a time machine ride back to 2015
Hell yes, Mozart. Now your talking.
I would like to take your time machine back a smidge and go fetch Os.
Willem Albert's? Awesome choice at 7.
Imagine a Schalk, Alberts Vermeulen mix ... ?
WOW!!!
Those were rugby players.
My match 23.
Coached by Nic Mallet.
1. Os Du Randt
2. Bismarck Du Plessis
3. Richard Bands
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Mark Andrews
6. Luke Watson (cpt)
7. Willem Alberts
8. Duane Vermeulen
9. Joost van Der Westhuizen
10. Henry Honiball
11. Bryan Habana
12. Dries Scholtz
13. Danie Gerber
14. Ray Mordt
15. Percy Montgomery
16. Malcolm Marx
17. Gurthro Steenkamp
18. B J Botha
19. R G Snyman
20. Schalk Burger
21. Fourie Du Preez
22. Jean De Villiers
33. Andre Joubert
Puke Watson...lol, stop trolling!!!
That's my match 23, Draad.
Let's have yours.
I considered guys like Heinrich Brussow, Ruben Kruger, Jaco Kriel, Francois Pienaar and Schalk Burger for my starting openside flank and in all honesty found them all wanting in comparison to Luke Watson. He was a natural 6, had a very high work rate and was great in the loose.
As for tighthead ... I didn't consider guys like Jannie Du Plessis, Coenie Oosthuizen, Ballie Swart or Fran's Malherbe as worthy Bok tightheads. Bands stood his ground and was awesome in the tight loose. He also had nice pace and was almost impossible to bring down once he got going. His peach of a try against the All Blacks will always remain a favourite of mine.
I rate Bands as an absolute must in my match 23 ... along side BJ Botha.
Dries Scholtz is not a fan favourite, I know.
I liked his incredible power. His ability to carry 3 guys on his back over the try line. His strong defence.
I know he wasn't the most creative 12 we've ever had but still think of him as someone who would've made a definite impact in every test match.
Other midfield options I'd include in my squad are guys like Rohan Janse van Rensburg and Pieter Muller.
Jaque Fourie was also a class act in his day and so was the combo of De Wet Barry and Marius Joubert.
Still ... my choice at 12 is Scholtz.
Some of those payers are not so recent and by 2015 the players were long gone and desperately poor. Alberts for instance was useless in defense - slow and broke no real tackles at all - unlike present loosies who have to be tackled by two to three players to really bring them down. Matfiedl after his retirement in 2011 and brought ack by Meyer - was a total dud in 2014 and 2015.
Stop living in the past please - it has noi future.
We are just having a little fun, Mike.
Obviously we're picking these players in their prime ... not on the day of their retirement.
Have a go ... let's see your match 23.
Common ... you know you wanna.
Plum ... Habana is probably a candidate for the greatest wing of all time.
He didn't just have a lot of pace ... he was a solid defender, unlike Mapimpi ... came off his wing and looked for work off the ball, unlike Mapimpi who is lazy ... created something special out of nothing, unlike Mapimpi whose only strength is his pace.
I don't think Mapimpi will ever be feared like Habana was.
Just my take on the man.
Ummmmm ... Draad ... how about that team of yours?
Don't be shy!!
Oh dear ... Draad has much to say ... but can't back it up with his own thoughts on a team.
Pity.
Hahahahaaha!!!! The same fuck who argued with me that Gerber was the best 13 but JJ was the better than Gerber turns his nose up to the best Block 12 of all time... what a fucking idiot. Ex Saff, please deepthroat yourself until you lose consciousness and die! Okay???? Win win for all of us I'd say.
Time to look ahead folks and forget the past.
Yes some of those players do stand out but how did Bands, Steenkamp and Puke make the shortlist.
Red Nose have you any photos of your mom with her udders covered.
I have a whole catalogue of Saffex's mother, if you ask him nicely, he may give you a nice nudey of his mother's butthole before he combed it with his teeth.
My Current Bok Side:
1 Kitsie (anyone of a few)
2 Marx (Bongie ...way underrated on here)
3 Wilco (Frans Malherbe...also much underrated)
4 Eben (C) ...
5 RG (Lood...reluctantly)
6 Deon Fourie...the old man was simply phenomenal in the URC (Kwagga)
7 PSDT ...(Louw)
8 Roos
9 Hendrikse (Burger...don't like him, but...)
10 Polard (Libbok)
11 Mapimpie
12 Willemse
13 Am
14 Kolbe
15 Gelant (Willie)
I also like Edwil vd Merwe on the wing...and Zas.
Side Since 95
1. Os
2. Marx
3. Cobus Visagie
4. Eben.
5. RG/Bek ker
6. Burger/Brussouw
7. Juan Smith
8. Thor
9. Joost
10. Lem
11. Habana
12. Jean
13. Am/Mossie
14. Small/Kolbe
15. Percy
Do you think for yoursrlf Db?
WOW ... Mrs Searle ... aren't you a delightful read.
Dud Toit has to follow Dud Allende out the door…..he has been all but useless this year. Gets over the ball, gets cleaned. Gets the lineout call…bungles it. Gets good attacking ball, gets knocked over. Gets a chance for an open field tackle, gets stepped.
Time to admit the emperor has no clothes and never did. We can’t have any more of this sentimental nonsense.
No worries about my future thank you CC.
I took care of it for my family and myself many, many years ago.
Sure I may not have many years to go but I have had an eventful, rewarding and exciting life that many others never had and will never have stuck in RSA and and unfortunately on the RAND.
Plus blessed with a wife, children, grandchildren and great grandchildren here in Canada free from the miserable existence you must be going through in RSA with your attitude.
But back on the rugby front some of the picks you made are they family or what.
Puke, Steenkamp and Bands my goodness......
Oh well different strokes for different folks including the BLIND I guess.
If you post a team you can expect folks to differ with your selection unfortunately you cannot stand other folks comments if they differ with yours.
You have a major problem.
Shame.
Huh ,,, ??
I was referring to South Africa's rugby future, Arthur ... I wasn't referring to you personally at all.
Don't be so sensitive.
I am delighted to hear of your successful life abroad.
You made the right decision to take your family away from here.
Wish I had done the same.
Umm ... in case you were wondering about my team ... I don't know if you noticed Mozart's title to this thread?
Do you really need me to explain it to you?
I was having a little fun with players of yesteryear ...whom I regard as true rugby players in comparison to the pretenders we see today ...
Oh and I don't have any issues with you ripping my team apart.
It's the risk you take when you post a team on here.
Relax man ...
Now say you're sorry ,,, !!
Nice Draad ... I see you added your picks of yesteryear.
Forgot about Bekker.
Thought you'd go with Fourie Du Preez at 9. Most do.
What?????) No Luke ... ?
I can probably pick 2 teams like that. We had some good players over the years...I deliberately left out Matfield...I concede that he was one of the greatest ever in his position, but I didn't like his influence on the team culture...they things he said in some post match interviews...and some of the things he says as a commentator for Super Sport....personal dislike...pet hate...
FdP...was very good, but I prefer the 10 to be the decision maker...Morne would never have played all those tests he did if it wasn't for FdP.
Agreed.
Even though picking a team isn't supposed to be a popularity contest ... there is a line drawn in the sand that we don't want crossed. .
I didn't pick him because all he contributed to the team was in the lineout.
There are guys like Bekker that can compete with him ... AND ... they bring a lot more to the the tight loose than he did ... not to mention to the scrum.
He was often tackled backward by smaller men and I've seen him go to ground, get rucked over and give turnover ball away at vital times in the match.
He was a weed.
Besides that ... he has an arrogance about him that I despise. He thought he was better than he really was.
He also brought division to a team.
He wouldn't make my squad of 40.
Now I know what you're going to say ... "what about Luke Watson"?
He had issues with SARU. He was pro giving all races a shot at playing in the green and gold and the people hated him for being so outspoken about it.
He never divided his team and was easily the best player in most of the teams he played for.
It was sad that he never got a fair shake.
He was by far the best openside flanker we had at the time and captaincy came naturally to him..
That is why he's my 6 and captain.
I'm not prone to swallowing the nonsense we find in the media.
They have said wonderful things about our useless current captain and most believe it.
I'm a WP/Stormers man and he served us well, but I didn't like baggage that came with him...not necessarily his own doing...the puke story was taken out of context, so that didn't really bother me at the time...
Oh ... my mistake, Stupid.
I thought all the talent had fled the country to further their careers elsewhere.
Such a pity that this crazy talent you speak of got hammered so badly by the All Blacks 2 weeks back.
I wonder ... what could have caused that embarrassing loss??
They were playing at home ... in front of their home crowd ... at altitude.
Puzzling!!
Just cant figure it.
CC....sorry if I took it wrong.
That's ok ... I forgive you ...
Luckily, we have you to explain it to us all.
Huh?
I thought BeanDip was the only one fluent in moron on here.
Speak English, Stupid.
