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Players who today played htem out of potetial future Sprinbok selection

Started by clevermike18 REPLIES255 VIEWS· 25 Oct 2014, 18:50
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Oct 2014, 18:50
#1
25 Oct 2014, 18:50#1

The top of this list is Mrnitz Boshoff - matter of fact he cost the Lions a win.   Missed penlty after penalty - but keep on insisting  he wants of kick at goal.    His moment of utter stupidity was kicking the ball over the dead ball line after a possession turnover.


Hre joins the list of clueless flyhalfs - headed by Francois Steyn and Morne Steyn.


The second player was Mnisi - really useless and share the cause of the WP win.   Bad news that one.  A back-up CC player at best


  

BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
25 Oct 2014, 18:54
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25 Oct 2014, 18:54#2

Yeah, Boshoff had a very poor game, his decision making was as poor as some of his executions, trying to run out of his 22 and then conceding a penalty straight in front.


It is all good and well to want to run from anywhere, but you need a proper exit plan against good defence.  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Oct 2014, 19:08
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25 Oct 2014, 19:08#3
Dont talk rubbish ou maaaikie Boschoff is a class act but has been out a bit and was not on form today. Lions left 15 points out there from missed goal kicks - had that not happened there would not have been a word re Boschoff
Mnisi has more potential than Taute.
Cat made a few mistakes as well but goaled his kicks.
I have unfortunately to admit this was a wee abs type of win. Heaps of luck. Reminds me of Dunedin
But that sport and the Currie C up belongs to the mighty WP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Oct 2014, 20:03
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25 Oct 2014, 20:03#4
 Beeno
Boishoff is s carbon copy of Morne and Frabsie - clueless.   \he is the normal kicking flyhalf - with an instruction to run the ball and then he did not know when to kick a ball or when to run it.  
The probllem with that guy is -when he is bad - he is very, very bad.    
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Oct 2014, 20:08
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25 Oct 2014, 20:08#5
 Please ou maaaikie you can' t write a player into the Bok side on one performance or out of the Boks on one performance.
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
25 Oct 2014, 20:26
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25 Oct 2014, 20:26#6

The player responsible for the Lions' loss was Whiteley.

With about 10 min left on the clock, the Lions were trailing by only 6 points, so why did he select to kick for goal knowing that this route would require another penalty kick followed by extra time?

He should have kicked for the corner and hope he could score a converted try, or even a penalty try under the posts which would have given him victory.  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Oct 2014, 21:07
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25 Oct 2014, 21:07#7
Tough decisions to make those, Blikkies. 10 Minutes is still a good bit of time and it gets them within unconverted try territory for the win as well. The kick for the corner is always a 50/50 gamble, and then they have to defend a 1 point lead for a good 7 or 8 minutes. It's very harsh to load everything on that one call.
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JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
25 Oct 2014, 21:23
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25 Oct 2014, 21:23#8
Boshoff is not a bad flyhalf as he's proved in the past but I believe the pressure got to him. Of course he's not a bok material player based on his form. Goal kicking was a clear problem for him.

Howard Mnisi is not so good against a solid defensive team but is still promising and could do well in super XV but not at test level. I wouldn't write him off just yet though.
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
25 Oct 2014, 21:26
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25 Oct 2014, 21:26#9

Pakie,

The odds are better than 50:50 because the corner kick came from a penalty, so you can throw the ball in, in which case the odds must be in your favour - unless you have a hopeless lineout, but in that case your team should never have reached the final.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Oct 2014, 21:40
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25 Oct 2014, 21:40#10
 Boshoff was slotting almost every kick he took in the S15 if memory serves me well - at least for the first half of the season. Something must be wrong as my impression was he is a good kicker.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Oct 2014, 21:49
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25 Oct 2014, 21:49#11
 Well said JW  
Boschoff has an incredible boot but oaks quickly forget that when a bad performance happens. No Boschoff was the guy who lost the Currie Cup fi nal and tough on him as his kicking is usually top notch.He has been out injured for awhile so that didnt help.
It would be nice if ou maaaikie didn't throw out all these red herrings.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
25 Oct 2014, 22:06
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25 Oct 2014, 22:06#12

 ...Bean Brain , getting a bit beyond a joke isn't it ?... another South African team throws a game tsk tsk...first Boland,.. the Sharks last week and now the Golden Lions...terrible state of affairs mate....you need to clean up the game by the sound of it before it starts affecting your Super XV teams....

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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
25 Oct 2014, 22:27
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25 Oct 2014, 22:27#13
Misread Brycy's post, apologies!
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
25 Oct 2014, 23:16
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25 Oct 2014, 23:16#14
Never rated Boshoff that highly, not Springbok material.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Oct 2014, 23:58
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25 Oct 2014, 23:58#15
 Boshoff wasn't kicking that well in the semi either ....and these type of players Boshoff, Kat or Morne live by the boot and die by the boot. 
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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
26 Oct 2014, 06:17
#16
26 Oct 2014, 06:17#16
Boshoff had 24/29 prior to the final starting, he had an 83% success rate, so his form leading into the match was good.  
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
26 Oct 2014, 06:19
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26 Oct 2014, 06:19#17
Van Der Walt was outstanding at 10 for the Lions while Boshoff was injured. They may have missed a trick by not sticking with him at flyhalf.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Oct 2014, 06:44
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26 Oct 2014, 06:44#18
 Pakie
Van der Walt is a class player.   
I think they made a mistake by entrusting the last penalty kick to Boshoff - they should have seen what he did for the rest of the game.   Whiteley was also hessiatt as captain.   When behind six pints in a game - kcik for the corner and try and score a try.
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JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
26 Oct 2014, 06:50
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26 Oct 2014, 06:50#19
You could say the Lions may have won if they slotted their penalties although they just wasn't good enough as a team, the Lions got off to a bad start in the first half and ultimately that was the main problem up until that point. I wouldn't blame any individual player such as Boshoff like some are.

At the end of the day if you're team doesn't play good enough as a whole, they are not going to win. Simple as that.
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