Plumtree to be appointed as NZ coach?

The following from News24:-

"New Zealand flyhalf Beauden Barrett believes Hurricanes coach John Plumtree is capable of replacing Steve Hansen as the All Blacks’ head coach.

Plumtree revealed last month that he is considering putting his name forward as Hansen’s successor after next year’s Rugby World Cup in Japan and Barrett feels he stands a good chance of getting the job.

“He certainly has the potential,” Barrett told Newshub.

“He’s a great coach from the number of years I’ve had with him so I certainly wouldn’t write him out.”

The Hurricanes No 10 said the All Blacks players were aware of Hansen’s intentions to step down as the world champions’ head coach for some time before his announcement last month and admitted that the upcoming international season will be tinged with sadness.

“It’s sad to see him go, but his legacy that he’s going to leave behind is something he’ll be very proud of,” added Barrett.

“His record speaks for itself. What he’s given to us players, what’s he done for us. He’s got the best out of us so we can only thank him for that.

“He’s certainly not done yet, we’ve got another season. He’s still young too, so you never know where he’s going to end up.”

Barrett’s immediate focus is on the Hurricanes’ Super Rugby campaign, however, which starts next month.

“There’s huge excitement,” he said.

“Plum’s (Plumtree) obviously a passionate guy and cares a lot about the team and the players.

“There’s already been a lot of change around the park and the facilities. I think that’s refreshing and we needed it.”

Plumtree played 80 matches for the Sharks between 1988 and 1997, winning two Currie Cups (1990, 1996). He would later go on to coach the Sharks between 2008-2012."

Although I do think that Plumtree is a vey good coach I do not think he will be appointed as NZ coach.     That being said he would be a consideration if he does apply for the job.   Should he get the job I would be another  pointer that two of our site members - who hated him because of his exposure of Fat Fransie's deficiencies as a player - are real idiots,     

He coached the Sharks to the Super Rugby Finals in 2009 and 2012 - that says a lot. 

I would rather he wasn't 

I want Schmidt 1st. Think Razor needs a bit longer or assistant coach to Joe.

Those 2 would revolutionise Kiwi rugby again I think.

Definitely not sold on Foster, think that will either hold where we are at or drag us a step backwards which we cant do if we want to hold number 1 as the field has closed up in the last 2 years

Mozart

He was attacked by you because he spoke out about Fat Fransie's abilities as a rugby player and he told the truth which was a bit too much for you and AO to accept.   

He thought Steyn was no center and said so.   This year Montpellier made the same finding and they are using him at full back.   Who was right and who was wrong?     

Mozart

Being in two Super Rugby finals in 4 years is not exposing Plumtree at all.   Fat Fransie at  10 was tried and he failed miserably - so what else is new.    

He coached the Sharks to the Super Rugby Finals in 2009 and 2012 - that says a lot. 

Sharks were in the final in 2007 and 2012. Muir was the coach in 2007.

2009 was the the year the Bulls walloped the Chiefs at Loftus. I think Ludeke was the coach then.

The Sharks was not in the S14 in 2009...Bools vs Chiefs  at Loftus IIRC....the Sharks lost to the Bools in 2007 in Durbs nogal. Habana scored at the death to swing it in their (Bools') favour.

I worked at Suncoast Casino that night. Worst fucking shift EVER!!

Mozart madness as per normal -  Steyn was BS ibn 2014 and the fact is he was rated in 2014 as the number 252 player in Super Rugby and as center as the 32nd rated player in that position.  How did that make him the top flyhalf in the competition in 2014?   

It is like dofdoos and AO claiming Morne was on par with Carter as a flyhalf - total idiocy.  

Draad

Sorry my memory went out of the window.  I thought the game was in 2009 and not 2007 - I was at the match and dear Fransie made a BS kick - much like Morne did in Perth - and Habana ran straight through the defense and scored a try in the last few minutes of the game, which was the match decider,  .    

No Mozart - you are talking straight nonsense as per normal.   Steyn was BS in defense in 2014 - whether playing at flyhalf or center,    Now suddenly he was better than your erstwhile favourite Morne and it is limited to SA flyhalfs,    Steyn was tried by the Spriungboks at flyhalf in 2009 and the idea was dropped like a hot potato -  too slow when it comes to decision-making,

Steyn showed massive promise in 2007-8, but he always was rather slow and he was better at full back than in any other position he played in.   The wheels finally came off in 2012 when he returned from France,  I thought his return was manna from heaven for the Springboks - but he was so fat he was virtually unusable in the center position where he was tried,   A total failure in the tests he was injured before  then end of the Rugby Championship.  

Steyn's history in 2014 was a mixed bag - he either played at center - where he was a dismal failure  or at flyhalf where he was not much better.   He was good enough in kicking at  goal 0 he was the 6th highest point scorer in 2014 - but he was one of three players in the top 10 point-scorers who never scored a try - Marnits Boshoff who was number 4  who also scored no tries and no 10.   

Steyn's best performances always was at full back and that is where he is really performing well this year for Montpellier..    He needs time and space to perform and those two a spects are missing at 10 and 12,            

Well of course you want Schmidt ... taking him would eliminate Ireland as a threat ... and then you guys can keep strutting your stuff ... two birds with one stone.

I hope Schmidt turns any and all offers down from NZ.

What are you talking about CC Schmidt has already resigned from Ireland after the world cup.

Are you saying we want him so Ireland cant have him?

We (I) want him because he is a bloody good coach

I would've assumed Foster would just sorta take over the reins.  Keep the machine ticking over in a way. 

Henry to Hanson, Hanson to Foster, and so on. Keep the recipe in the family sorta thing.

Yes ... that is what I meant, Sader.

I hadn't realized that he called it a day at Ireland. I too would want him as a replacement for Hansen if I were you. He's done wonders there.

Apologies!!

The following comment on Schmidt is interesting:-

"On 2 September 2015, Schmidt was granted Irish citizenship.[42] His son Luke was diagnosed with epilepsy at the age of four and Schmidt has become involved with Epilepsy Ireland"

One wonders whether he will go back to New Zealand under such circumstances,   Under the circumstances he has only maximum 6 games a year away from home or in the case of three of those within very easy travelling distance from Ireland.   

In the case of New Zealand  coaching he would have more long-distance travelling and longer absences from home than he has at present.   The fact that he became an Irish citizen involved with Epilepsy Ireland indicates that he is more likely to settle in Ireland than go back to  New Zealand,   He could take up a role in Irish rugby after his resignation.   

However, I have a feeling Schmidt may decide not to go back to New Zealand - but we will have to wait and see what happens.   If he decides to remain in  Ireland - who are the other potential coaches in NZ itself?   I think Plumtree has a small chance of getting the job - but who will be in real contention?