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Pollard in the spotlights..

Started by Brycy22 REPLIES894 VIEWS· 13 Sept 2014, 02:23
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
13 Sept 2014, 02:23
#1
13 Sept 2014, 02:23#1

Another All Blacks opponent, another team getting to grips with the crucial No 10 position.


Following hard on the heels of Australia's conundrum about whether to play Kurtley Beale or Bernard Foley at first-five, South Africa coach Heyneke Meyer has gambled on playing 20-year-old Handre Pollard there for what will be his fourth test.


A player with a more attacking mindset than Morne Steyn, who has been left out of the squad altogether, Pollard will be expected to bring an unconventional dimension to a Boks team which has looked predictable, if not slightly pedestrian, so far in this year's Rugby Championship.


If the expected rain does fall in Wellington tonight, however, Steyn might feel justified in thinking the conditions would suit his more conservative disposition.


The All Blacks, meanwhile, have predictably turned back to Aaron Cruden after his pectoral problem.


For all the competition between Dan Carter, Cruden and Beauden Barrett, a depth every other rugby nation must crave, there is a clear direction and plan which make the Wallabies and Boks look they are making decisions on the run.


After his public musings on the Beale selection before the Sydney Bledisloe Cup draw, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen this week refused to add to the pressure on Pollard's young shoulders.


He has too much respect for the Boks and coach Meyer to do that, but in mentioning Carter in the same breath he may have unintentionally done so anyway.

Asked about Pollard's inexperience, he said: "I remember when Dan Carter didn't have any test caps and I was coaching Wales. He smashed us. So how many test caps you've got ... I guess it is relevant when it comes to experience, but if you've got the ability to play the game, that sort of eases that away."


Earlier, Hansen said: "Pollard is a pretty handy footballer. He had a great Under-20 tournament and he [Meyer] has obviously got a lot of faith in him. You can see why, when the kid plays, he's a pretty good player.


"He plays differently to Morne. Morne plays deeper, Pollard plays flatter and wants to attack the line. I would imagine that Crudes will get a few people running at him during the course of the day so he's just going to have to stand up and make his tackles."


A standout for South Africa in this year's Junior World Championships in New Zealand, Pollard, who made his test debut against Scotland before starting in the two narrow victories over Argentina and then making way for Steyn in Perth, is the Boks' latest attacking hope after mixed results from Johan Goosen and Pat Lambie.


"I don't think you're going to beat the All Blacks, especially away from home, if you just do the conventional," Meyer said this week.

"Before the World Cup I have to expose him. He could be a big force. He's big and strong, a brilliant defender with a good kicking game and he's an unbelievable attacking player. I believe if you don't do it now, you're never going to know."


Captain and midfielder Jean de Villiers, who will play his 100th test tonight, said: "That's probably been one of the worries in this team. The forwards are settled but we're struggling to get continuity in the backs. We're building a nice second tier of youngsters, which is going to come through."


First-five focus
Cruden: Tests 2; minutes 138; points 31; carries 10; average gain 6.7m; passes 40; offloads 2; try assists 1; tackles 15; missed 2.
Pollard: Tests 2; minutes 100; points 16; carries 4; average gain 1.25m; passes 7; offloads 0; try assists 0; tackles 12; missed 1.

- APNZ

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2014, 02:59
#2
13 Sept 2014, 02:59#2
Brycy
 It might as well rain in Wellington - it could not have been as bad as was the case in Pretoria against Argentina.   In any event there was not much Pollard could do in the two RC tests he played in - what with the forwards in full retreat in scrums and even in mauls.
I do not think - despite the presence of Matfield - that the forward situation would be as bad as they were against Argentina and Pollard did very well in the JWC  in New Zealand - where weather conditions were also not what it should have been,
In any event - I think that most local supporters (except our three resident site morons) are more than happoy to see the inexperienced Pollard at flyhalf than the match losing wizard Morne Steyn.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Sept 2014, 03:54
#3
13 Sept 2014, 03:54#3
Er let me remind you OOM, I spotted Pollard's potential early in the S15 ....while you were the chap that said he was a kicker only.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2014, 04:38
#4
13 Sept 2014, 04:38#4
 Mozart
That was a year ago =- when Pollard did play in the 2013 JWC and we could not make the final.   He developed well afterwards - and did well when you "spotted him" - what a joke
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
13 Sept 2014, 04:56
#5
13 Sept 2014, 04:56#5
He just needs to go out their an enjoy himself. If he takes the game too serious he is going to have a difficult day at the office. Win or lose he must relax and have a good game
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
13 Sept 2014, 08:20
#6
13 Sept 2014, 08:20#6
Sharkie,Words of wisdom. Whatever happens, happens.
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
13 Sept 2014, 09:14
#7
13 Sept 2014, 09:14#7
I think he will be fine. The few times I've seen him play now, apart from a few early jitters against Argentina where he kicked off straight into touch and so on, he looks like he has a cool head on his shoulders. Obviously he still makes mistakes but that's ok, he'll learn. I really hope the weather isn't going to be the main factor in this game, I'd love to see a good contest in decent conditions.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2014, 09:58
#8
13 Sept 2014, 09:58#8
 Pakie
The latest weather forecast for Wellingtoon indicates -
*   broken clouds - no rain forecast; and*   a 17kms wind - so not too strong either.
He was jittery against the Argentinians - but it should be borne in mind the weather  factor in the Pretoria test was a majpr problem.
I would have been seriously worried if Morne Steyn was the flyhalf.   He has fouled up and made critical mistakes in virtually all the tests he played in over the past year - starting off in the Eden Parlk last year.   If here is someone who cracks up under pressure it is Morne Steyn.    I think that Pollard - despite his inexperience - will be a safer bet at 10 than Morne has been and I think he will have a good game today.    
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Sept 2014, 10:35
#9
13 Sept 2014, 10:35#9
"Er let me remind you OOM, I spotted Pollard's potential early in the S15 ....while you were the chap that said he was a kicker only."
Early in the S15? Hmmm . . . let's see, Handre Pollard played off the bench behind Jacques Louis Potgieter before going off to play in the IRB Junior World Cup in June. I can't find a single mention of Pollard from Moffie during the early stages of the S15 (February, March and April), perhaps someone can assist? What I do find is the following:
First Moffie jumped on the Patrick Lambie bandwagon (predicting Lambie would be the star of the 2014 S15 season) before dumping Lambie and jumping on the Johan Goosen bandwagon. This was Moffie's pre-S15 call . . . Goosen or . . . ummmmmm . . . Willie Le Roux, pffffffffffhahahahaha!

No mention of Handre Pollard from Moffie during rounds 1 - 15 and by early May, Moffie had quite clearly buried his snout into the notion that Fat Fransie was a flyhalf as can be seen on this discussion on flyhalves (after Round 13 of the S15) and there's not even a mention of Handre Pollard from the disgusting old liar.
In late May, Moffie finally mentions Handre Pollard on this thread, saying "Perhaps Pollard has a bench shot....but it's a long one". Wow! Is that what this ridiculously stupid and self-absorbed old fop considers "spotting potential"? Early in the S15?Waaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!
This is just another example of Moffie lying through his rotting yellow teeth, all because this deceitful and pompous old liar has this pathetic need to always be right . . . which is hilarious when you consider he wouldn't recognise talent if it slapped him through his fat face. 
Just have a laugh as the egg-faced old coffin-dodger jumps from one bandwagon to the next, all the time pretending he's some kind of visionary. It's great for a laugh!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2014, 11:05
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13 Sept 2014, 11:05#10
Rooinek
Be mellow my friend - we all know that Mzart cannot spot anything in the game of rugby - since he does not know and understand the game.    
We all know that the "talent" he spotted at flyhalf was Fat Fransie with his wobbly knee and how he poersistently refused to recognise what a balls up  Fransie really was a t flyhalf.   
Mozart cannot spot anyhthing - so he religiously follows Meyer's selection and swore there is nobody better than those players.   They can bugger up game a fter game and the old dottard still supports then as the best players around.   
He has two norms - he either supports a player - or he does not.   If he supports a player he never recognises anyhing done wrong or poorly by the player and would even look for scraps to support the player.   If he dislikes a player (npormally for no reason other than his prejudice because they pose a threat to his favourites insofar as Springbok selection is concerned)  he would lie through his teeth abou twhat actually happened on the field of play so as to denigate any such player endlessly.      

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
13 Sept 2014, 13:36
#11
13 Sept 2014, 13:36#11
 The youngster played very very well. Kudos to him.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2014, 09:57
#12
14 Sept 2014, 09:57#12
. . . the deep dive . . .
LMAO!
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Sept 2014, 10:12
#13
14 Sept 2014, 10:12#13
 rooitwit I wouldnt go down that road. As you know Moz has a list of players you touted which flopped for one. Then of course you may have missed the post(s) Moz made.It looks like you could have more egg dribbling down visog.rooitwit is of course an egg magnet.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2014, 11:37
#14
14 Sept 2014, 11:37#14
Wehe, yeah right! Moffie has a long list of lies about players I allegedly touted while I have hard evidence of his flops and his shameless bandwagoning.
As for egg in the "visog" (sic), let's have a look at some of Moffie's other recent picks. Apart from predicting Lambie as the player of the S15, then quickly jumping on the Goosen bandwagon before abandoning Goosen for Fat Fransie (all documented above with actual links rather than childish and spiteful little lies), let's not forget that Moffie was vociferous in his support for Morne Steyn just before Steyn single-handedly lost us the test match against the Wallabies when he missed a basic kick for touch before falling on his knees instead of tackling Rob Horne. And guess who Moffie picked as his player of the Rugby Championship? Wehe! He picked Bismarck du Plessis who subsequently lost all form, got dropped to make way for Adriaan Strauss and then came on yesterday and missed his jumper with his first three throws at the lineout that could well have cost us that test match as well.
Look Baboon-ou, I know how much you love to lick Moffie's wrinkled old tailpipe and I know you've been his obsequious and servile little Gimp for more years than I can remember, but even you have to admit that your fork-tongued master has gotten more egg all over his stupid fat face in these last few months than even you manage with all your pathetic snivelling, whimpering and excuse-making . . . and that is saying something!
Lambie . . . shplott!Goosen . . . shplottt!Fransie . . . shhplottt!Morne . . . sshhplotttt!Bismarck . . . shplott!
"I spotted Pollard's potential early in the S15" . . . Ssssschhhplottttttttt!!!
ROTFLMAO!
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
14 Sept 2014, 11:40
#15
14 Sept 2014, 11:40#15
 Pollard played a decent game ,good on him.I feel sorry for young Goosen just too emotional in his first test and a bit prone to injury .
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2014, 11:44
#16
14 Sept 2014, 11:44#16
I haven't given up on Johan Goosen, nor have I given up on Bismarck du Plessis. I'm just having a laugh at the poisonous effect of Moffie's predictions on these unfortunate and unsuspecting players.
I won't be surprised if Johan Goosen makes it back into the Springbok fold after his stint in France.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
14 Sept 2014, 12:14
#17
14 Sept 2014, 12:14#17
 I have always rated young Goosen { is it pronounced "Hoosen "] And its obvious what that Jersey means to him. Bismark looks wore out ...too much rugby ?
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2014, 12:17
#18
14 Sept 2014, 12:17#18
No, it's not pronounced "Hoosen". The "G" is pronounced like the "ch" in the words "loch" and "chutzpah".
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Sept 2014, 12:50
#19
14 Sept 2014, 12:50#19
Boks will need morne than one decent fly half for the RWC. More may still be in the frame &. At least one other fly half.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2014, 12:54
#20
14 Sept 2014, 12:54#20
 We have 3 good Flyhalves in Pollard, Goosen and Lambie
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Sept 2014, 13:19
#21
14 Sept 2014, 13:19#21
 Lets get this straight -  Goosen on the day had a very good game - he was in all repsects better than Cruden - who towardsthe later stages of hisgame on Saturday had a nightmare.   When Cruuden is under pressure - he does not look good - give him  free running game and that is fine - but under pressure he has problems.    
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
14 Sept 2014, 20:52
#22
14 Sept 2014, 20:52#22
  I rate Pollard and Goosen as good.
Then Potgieter, Boshoff and perhaps Lambie.  
FO
ForeverArizonaClub Pro580 posts
14 Sept 2014, 21:00
#23
14 Sept 2014, 21:00#23
 Potgieter deserves a look in to.
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