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Pollard walks the SA TOW

Started by Mozart16 REPLIES656 VIEWS· 25 Feb 2018, 23:41
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Feb 2018, 23:41
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25 Feb 2018, 23:41#1
Written off many times directly and with sly little nuances by the buxom one, Pollard continues his brave climb back from a career threatening injury crisi: Here’s Craig Lewis’ TOW SA TEAM OF THE WEEK (Round 2) 15. Andries Coetzee (Lions) 14. Sylvian Mahuza (Lions) 13. Jesse Kriel (Bulls) 12. Burger Odendaal (Bulls) 11. Aphiwe Dyantyi (Lions) 10. Handré Pollard (Bulls) 9. Ross Cronjé (Lions) 8. Warren Whitely (Lions) 7. Thembelani Bholi (Bulls) 6. Roelof Smit (Bulls) 5. Lood de Jager (Bulls) 4. RG Snyman (Bulls) 3. Wilco Louw (Stormers) 2. Ramone Samuels (Stormers) 1. Steven Kitshoff (Stormers)
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Feb 2018, 00:52
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26 Feb 2018, 00:52#2

No problem with  Pollard - but Mozart's comments are as per normal BS.   Pollard's problems did not only stem from injuries - atrocious coaching and an acceptable game plan turned an over-weight player around.   Nice to see the result - but there is still scope for improvement and Mitchell will  bring on even more improvement om his performances.   The BS of Meyer and Ludeke nearly destroyed his career.          

 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Feb 2018, 03:54
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26 Feb 2018, 03:54#3
Best I recall Pollard beat the ABs in 2014 with two outstandingly taken tries. But of course there was no sympathy on his return after almost buying it following his last operation....just comparisons with Morne Steyn and whining for Goosen.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Feb 2018, 06:37
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26 Feb 2018, 06:37#4

Mozart

Pollard as a junior was brilliant and that showed through in the tests against the Scots and the AB's in 2014,   Thereafter under Meyer and Ludeke he was nearly destroyed as a player.   In the EOYT of 2014 he was on average poor and dropped from the Springbok team repeatedly.  In the WC Polard became the listed flyhalf with the ball going to him less frequently than to the stand-in flyhalf Burger,

Playing a BS plan of Meyer and Ludeke the player went off the boil and he became injury prone as well - rarely playing  in 2016 and no games played in 2017.   Fact is he was in poor physical form and had to get out of that as it was even in the newspaper.   Lucky he is getting out of it because of good coaching which he missed out on in 2014 and  2015,

Morne Steyn mentioned - foeitog the poor bugger Mozart still have hallucinations that Morne was in fact a flyhalf and not a kicking dummy destroying backline play.      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Feb 2018, 06:37
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26 Feb 2018, 06:37#5

Duplication

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Feb 2018, 15:53
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26 Feb 2018, 15:53#6

Bottom line is that Pollard has been a loser for the last two seasons. He has never made the step up to play with the adults in all that time. 

I am sure we are all hoping to see him return to the form he displayed at junior level.

Best you put a sock in it, Mozart.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Feb 2018, 18:14
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26 Feb 2018, 18:14#7
He hasn’t played the last two seasons you loud mouthed fool....he missed the whole of 2016. And we don't need him to return to his ‘junior’ form....he was the best young flyhalf in World rugby in 2014. Perhaps you should put a sock in it, or if you insist on giving us your bog standard views, at least get your facts right.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Feb 2018, 18:15
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26 Feb 2018, 18:15#8
He hasn’t played the last two seasons you loud mouthed fool....he missed the whole of 2016. And we don't need him to return to his ‘junior’ form....he was the best young flyhalf in World rugby in 2014. Perhaps you should put a sock in it, or if you insist on giving us your bog standard views, at least get your facts right.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Feb 2018, 18:46
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26 Feb 2018, 18:46#9

Mozart

You always distort things.   Pollard played in the 2012, 2-13 and 2014 Under20 WC and was very good.   He then played under Meyer in three tests and was hen dropped from the starting line-up.   Why did your hero  Meyer drop him after the Ireland test in 2014?   Meyer dropped him because he was out of step with the distortion he called a  game plan.

That was followed by Super Rugby in 2015 where Ludeke initially preferred Potgieter to him - but later brought him into the team.   Poor Pollard .had to play with the abortion Ludeke called a game plan and his performances  took a nosedive

.Come the 2015  tests and Pollard came back into the Springbok team - however the game plan took a further nosedive and Pollard produced zero in that tournament.
Pollard then went to japan and played there.   Coming back he injured his ankle. and missed virtually the whole of 2016 and 2017.    So the question marks about Pollard was about the EOYT in 2014 and the Super Rugby and tests in  2015.  
That is why the hope was expressed that he should improve in 2018  and with Mitxhll taking jim into his care the first match was good.   So lets make it clear .  Between Meyer and Ludeke they did their utmost to harm Pollard's career - Mitchell seems to have revitalized him.    

  


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Feb 2018, 22:27
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26 Feb 2018, 22:27#10

Pollard had a number of excellent outing for the Boks and Bulle before being injured. Nobody can dispute this. It was absolutely NOT the case that he w as a great junior and never cut it at senior level - what total twaddle!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Feb 2018, 22:58
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26 Feb 2018, 22:58#11
He got dropped after Ireland because he wasn’t at his best playing inside Hougaard and the stupid SA fans that included Tokkie, Dave, CC and Chabal thought Lambie was the answer at 10. Then we saw Lambie against Wales and it was obvious that tests are a bridge too far. Pollard hit test rugby with an effectiveness and with BMT rarely seen in a young player. For example he made all 5 of his penalties in the WC semi.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Feb 2018, 23:18
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26 Feb 2018, 23:18#12

And he had to play at "flyhalf"  in the WC while in terms of the BS game plan the real flyhalf was Schalk Burger.    

Mozart - stop talking sh!t - name one instance where I said I prefer Lambie to Pollard at flyhalf.

I also said his record in the EOYT and in the  WC was totally undermined by the Meyer so-called game plan.   I also said repeatedly that one has to see whether he can recover the form he showed previously as a junior after Meyer and Ludeke buggered him up.

Mitchell can be thanked for dealing with Pollard as a real coach and how he has improved the performance not only of Pollard - but also Kriel, Snyman and De Jager.

However, since you said that coaches have no role with regard to player performance improvement it is obvious that  discussion with you on that issue is useless.     

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Feb 2018, 23:18
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26 Feb 2018, 23:18#13

Duplication

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Feb 2018, 00:13
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27 Feb 2018, 00:13#14

Pollard as a junior was 'brilliant' according to Tokkie. But then there's this



clevermike

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May 17, 2014, 04:35

 Mozart is the dolt of the century.  He makes wild statements mostly without facts and that makes him earn that role with distinction.   


The following are the basic information about the foremost flyhalfs of the pasty to decades:-
Wilkinson       =    1,78   -   89 kgsCarter           =    1.78   -   94 kgsBarrett          =    1,75   -   82 kgsBarrett          =    1,87   -   92 kgs
Now lets look at the SA flyhalfs:
Goosen         =     1,85   -   89 kgsLambie          =     1,77  -    87 kgsPollard          =     1.88  -    97 kgs
Morne           =     1,84  -   91 kgs
None of the above flyhalfs are particularly big players.  His favourite flyhalf is Francois Steyn - who is 1,94 and 112 kgs - with Morne Steyn after him.   
Since Mozart is clueless about backline play and the role of the flyhalfs - he is addicted to size and not the qualities shown by the better flyhalfs in world rugby over the past two decades.  According to Mozart - the less the ability to think - the better the flyhalf.  Then as to defense - the two choices at flyhalf of Mozart are poor defenders as well.
Pollard is still very inexperienced -  In the Under 20 WC last year he was not very good - but he shwed signs of improvement in the recent CC games.  He is one to follow - but is not a clearcut choice at flyhalf at present.   

So he was 'brilliant' but also 'not very good'. The usual lies, exposed again. 
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 Feb 2018, 02:42
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27 Feb 2018, 02:42#15

Haha haha!

On what fking planet did Pollard not cut it at senior level?

Have I somehow woken up in a different dimension?

Truly one has now heard it all.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Feb 2018, 02:58
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27 Feb 2018, 02:58#16
It’s the twilight zone....hahaha.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Feb 2018, 06:00
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27 Feb 2018, 06:00#17

I said many times what the problem was with Pollard and never blamed him for what happened to in the Meyer and Ludeke eras - he had to play in an environment of the non-existing game plan neutralizing back line play.

I also said that he hopefully recover from the farce and he did as proven om Saturday,   So the lies of Mozart should stop.   He was a total rugby fool was obviously not realizing the problem was with  the rubbish Meyer and Ludeke dished up as backline play and how they combined to ruin backline players.        

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