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Poms talk of re-establishing fortress - Build-up to RWC

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Nov 2013, 19:45
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01 Nov 2013, 19:45#1

Article in The Roar


England say they’ll kick off a campaign to turn Twickenham into their fortress ahead of hosting the 2015 Rugby World Cup when they face World Cup group rivals Australia on Saturday.

 

The Cook Cup clash with the Wallabies kicks off England’s autumn campaign which also includes Tests against Argentina and the world champion All Blacks.

 

England hooker Tom Youngs makes no secret of the importance they place on getting a winning start against the Wallabies.

 

“We want to make Twickenham a massive fortress over the next two years, building up to the World Cup,” said Youngs on Monday.

 

“This game is huge for us – the first of a long international season so it’s massively important to set our stall out and get a good performance in.”

 

Twelve months ago the Wallabies limped into Twickenham for the corresponding clash after being battered 33-6 by France, but the predicted rout failed to materialise as the visitors won 20-14.

 

Youngs started that match and was then among seven Englishmen in the matchday squad that helped the British and Irish Lions to a resounding 41-16 victory in the series-deciding encounter at Sydney’s ANZ Stadium in July.

 

The experience of demolishing Australia in Sydney has been banked, but Youngs says it is the events of last November that are most relevant.

 

“The Lions might still be fresh in Australia’s minds, but this has always been one of the most enjoyable games of rugby. It’s England v Australia which is massive for us and massive for them,” Youngs said.


“Looking back at last year, they got the better of us so we’re looking to put that right. That’s our main motivation.

 

“We’ve looked back at that game in the last week to remind ourselves and get it fresh in our minds.”


Australia often bristle when the vulnerability of their scrum is mentioned, but they were flattened in the set piece in Sydney to the extent buckling prop Ben Alexander was hauled off after 50 minutes.

 

Youngs denies they are a soft touch, however, as he recalls a disappointing day for England’s scrum last autumn.

 

“The Aussie pack don’t get the credit they deserve at times. They’re all right, they can hold their own,” he said.

 

“Against Argentina in the Rugby Championship, they did well over there, so they will be a massive challenge for us.

 

“They got the better of us in the scrum last year, so it’s up to us to put that right.”

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Nov 2013, 19:48
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01 Nov 2013, 19:48#2
Good way to motivate the team - pride & building to the RWC. We will see how this game goes, should be a good indicator of how Oz are developing.
This game will give the ABs some ideas no doubt
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
01 Nov 2013, 20:19
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01 Nov 2013, 20:19#3
South Africa have conquered and destroyed this "fortress" over the last 10 games or so. We have the poms number, and probably why they did not invite us to play them this year- scared!
On another point, has anyone noticed that when ever England win a game, suddenly out of nowhere their is a massive cup. Even just for the one of end of the year tour matches, if England beat a country like Australia, The All Blacks or South Africa, then a massive cup appears miracolously.
The players then spend the next 30 minutes parading around the field, the commentary box go on and on, and it seems like they have just won the world cup.
However when the opposition team wins, rarely does a cup appear. And then seldomly if it does appear, then it is 2 seconds of seeing the winning team with the cup, and it is back to commentary.
Very poor Sportsmanship, and England wonder why no one wants to see them win. 


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Nov 2013, 20:58
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01 Nov 2013, 20:58#4
 Yeah, the English commentators are the most bias and do not even try to be balanced. It makes watching a game (when you support the opposition) nauseating. 



CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Nov 2013, 22:06
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01 Nov 2013, 22:06#5
 Yeah the English commentators should take an example from  the NZ ones who really knows  their stuff, especially the offside laws.............
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
02 Nov 2013, 14:15
#6
02 Nov 2013, 14:15#6
They do their best the educate those who need it  
ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
02 Nov 2013, 14:42
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02 Nov 2013, 14:42#7
 The best commentators by far are the Aussies and English. The New Zealanders most biased and South Africans most stupid and boring. Get your heads out of your backsides.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
02 Nov 2013, 16:52
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02 Nov 2013, 16:52#8
well Marshall (kiwi commentator) is always pissing kiwis off baca use he tries so hard to be neutral that he always favored the opposition. I guess it's a to each his own situation.
Oz commentators are also really biased skinstat from south  Africa is one of the worse. Even when he says something neutral he sounds sarcastic, lol most try & please the fans of the fans from their country of origin.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
02 Nov 2013, 20:34
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02 Nov 2013, 20:34#9
I see the English having just beaten the Wallabies, all have been given gold medals. They also have a massive trophy that is made out of Crystal.
When the All Blacks beat the English I will be watching closely to see if each player is given a gold medal, and the team a cup...

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Nov 2013, 20:47
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02 Nov 2013, 20:47#10

There is one thing that I hate more than anything else - that is to watch rugby when incompetence or crookedness of the referee or the touch judges decided the outcome of games.   What should have been serious pressure and a potential try for the Wallabies was turned into an attack opportunity when the England player was clearly in touch and the line judge was three meters inside the field of play - doing what?  That kind of performance by referees is clearly unacceptable - who was the monkey anyway?   Must be a monkey - since of line judging he knows zilch.

 

That issue ultimately could have ben a turnover of 14 points In favour of the English team.

 

From what I have seen in the game itself - there are real weaknesses in the English team.   They are down to the Kruger standard under kick in balls and when under pressure - and their lock forwards are not up to standard.   This team looked substantially weaker than they were last year at this time - and I am not surprised by  the walloping the Welsh gave them in the 6 Nations.

 

Ripe for the beating by  the AB's by 20 or more points.  

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
02 Nov 2013, 21:18
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02 Nov 2013, 21:18#11
I feel sorry for Oz. They are down on morale and when you are down bad luck just seems to keep coming. Here are the winners of the predictions. (7 posters for Poms and 10 for Oz). We all knew it was a hard game to call.
http://www.sarugby.com/forum.cfm?threadid=7021
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Nov 2013, 21:19
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02 Nov 2013, 21:19#12
 

Sharkbok

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Posts: 2254 RE: Poms talk of re-establishing fortress - Build-up to RWC
November 02, 2013, 18:34:04 I see the English having just beaten the Wallabies, all have been given gold medals. They also have a massive trophy that is made out of Crystal.
When the All Blacks beat the English I will be watching closely to see if each player is given a gold medal, and the team a cup...

I am  not too sure about the name of the trophy. I think it could be the QBE Internationals trophy. It is played for between  Oz and Engalnd and is similar to the Mandela Plate between SA and Oz and the Freedom Cup between NZ and SA.




BE
becsPro4,378 posts
02 Nov 2013, 22:27
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02 Nov 2013, 22:27#13
 We play for that every time we play Australia now and you clearly missed them being presented with it when they beat us last year....and being given their stupid medals.
This is a sad " improvement " to the game that has come with professionalism.....you know, where the Sponsors want to get their names onto everything and the pics taken. Who was it that wanted that " improvement " again, care to remind me ?
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Nov 2013, 22:42
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02 Nov 2013, 22:42#14
 I am not totally against this mini-competitons. As I said, there are similar ones between  SA and NZ and between SA and Oz. Remember NZ and Oz have been playing for the Bledisloe cup for decades. Much different than the Ashes in cricket? Idon't think so.
PA
PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
03 Nov 2013, 03:18
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03 Nov 2013, 03:18#15

 Not good. Poms will be all pumped up now. The All Blacks will have a far different approach this time around. Seek and Destroy mission. Can not afford poms to create any momentum before the next RWC. They are creeping up on the 2nd place on the IRB ranking. Australia is in real strife.

 

 McKenzie is a clown. Changing leadership roles around and screwing with the team is obviously having serious effects. 8 losses from 11 tests must be getting close to a new record slump. His attitude of my way or your out isn't working. When you don't have any depth or talent to fall back on, he's far better to try and get more from what he's got. Wallabies will be lucky to win one tests the way there going. Never mind there grand slam dreams. Be lucky to hold 5th in the rankings.

 

Coaching staff clearly have no idea. And no clue on how to create a winning system. Just shows the lack of skill and talent isn't limited to the field.

 

All Blacks must completely destroy England at all costs.

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