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Pool B permutations

Started by Saffolk 6 REPLIES1,161 VIEWS· 02 Oct 2023, 10:04
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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2023, 10:04
#1
02 Oct 2023, 10:04#1
What the Springboks want If Ireland lost to Scotland by more than six points and the Scots don’t get a bonus point, the Springboks would go through as pool winners on points difference, with Ireland going through in second. If Ireland avoids defeat, South Africa goes through to the quarters as pool runners-up. What the Springboks don’t want The nightmare scoreline for South Africa goes like this: if Scotland beat Ireland by 21 points or more with a four-try bonus and Ireland get a four-try bonus point in defeat, then South Africa will be knocked out of the Rugby World Cup. Scotland would go through as pool winners, while due to their head-to-head loss with Ireland and a points difference lower than Scotland, the Boks would be eliminated.
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kingcorn
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kingcornPro3,695 posts
02 Oct 2023, 10:11
#2
02 Oct 2023, 10:11#2

What happens if Scotland grab a shock victory?
This is where things get interesting, and complicated.

The only scenario that would see the Springboks eliminated is if Scotland score four tries in beating Ireland by at least a 21-point margin, and Ireland clinch a four-try bonus point in defeat.

This would see all three teams finish level on 15 points. Scotland would finish ahead of Ireland and South Africa on points difference, while Ireland would then edge South Africa on the head-to-head rule. It’s complicated.

Scotland will qualify for the playoffs if they grab five log points, even if they fail to beat Ireland by 21 points, as the result would see South Africa win the pool (on points difference) and Ireland eliminated on head-to-head.

The Springboks will also finish top of Pool B if Scotland beat Ireland and deny them any bonus points.

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kingcorn
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kingcornPro3,695 posts
02 Oct 2023, 10:12
#3
02 Oct 2023, 10:12#3

I guess we'll all be shouting for Scotland as Ireland could be eliminated if Scotland wins

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Beeno1
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Oct 2023, 10:12
#4
02 Oct 2023, 10:12#4

All pretty unlikely.  Can you really get a result like that.  If it happens it would be highly suspicious. 

I was chatting to a friend who said in soccer to avoid this type of fixing match of the parties concerned are payed at the same time. 




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Beeno1
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Oct 2023, 10:14
#5
02 Oct 2023, 10:14#5

Ie because they have had this type of match fixing happening at soccer World Cups. 

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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2023, 10:21
#6
02 Oct 2023, 10:21#6
If the Boks got eliminated it would have to be down to match fixing for sure
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Denny
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Oct 2023, 11:03
#7
02 Oct 2023, 11:03#7

Worse case scenario methinks it might be a tight game but I'd still fancy Ireland.

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