Poor AE gets a 4.5 rating

Unfortunately some dopes on this board are trying to save face by making out Andre had a great game. 

Bok ratings.

Please note the rating give to Allende and whole you are about it to Mostert. 

The Planet Rugby rating more closely resembles that of someone who actually understood what was happening on the field :

12 Andre Esterhuizen: Used more as a misdirection on attack as he charged to the line before playing it out the back. It worked superbly for Makazole Mapimpi’s try and kept the Welsh defence guessing. Strong when he did carry to the line and defended well, giving Mason Grady little to work with. 7

Mapimpi's try was scored with interplay between Kriel and Mapimpi and  the description is rather inexplicable BS.   I saw he initial assessment giving Esterhuizen 4,5 out of 10 and that ws much more accurate than the present one.

Keep on looking for others - maybe you will find one that indicates Esterhuizen being better than De Allende,          

Mapimpi's try was scored with interplay between Kriel and Mapimpi and  the description is rather inexplicable BS.   I saw he initial assessment giving Esterhuizen 4,5 out of 10 and that ws much more accurate than the present one.

Keep on looking for others - maybe you will find one that indicates Esterhuizen being better than De Allende,   

I watched the game to see what Esterhuizen's performance ws and found nothing  of any real contribution by him to anything much,   To my mind h e and the "ever-present" Mostert made up the numbers witout any really positive contribution to the match.         

Damian de Allende 8: The experienced midfielder made a big impact late on with a key turn-over steal while he also kicked well

He made one kick that went out on the full ignoring an overlap. Jeebus Dave, this is what you call "accurate"? Oh, dear lord.

This is why I put no weight in media ratings. These guys watch the game live once, glance at the stats and then write down their impressions. They don't analyze anything to any level of depth .

Damian de Allende 8: The experienced midfielder made a big impact late on with a key turn-over steal "while he also kicked well"

What the hell is this lolololololol!!!

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The mind boggles

Here's DDA giving the "I just kicked well" signal to the Citizen sportswriter after booting it straight out.

Seem a poor 0akster and meetone are still battling to prop up AE. 

Throw in the towel oaks it's all over. 

Who do you oaks think will start at 12 against Ireland then? 

Dud Allende’s contribution minus 31 metres….shall I provide the numbers again HasBeen

Nine metres from 4 runs is infinitely better than 8 metres from 3 runs in this goofy Dud Allende fantasy.

Mozart

You are imndeed goofy if you think that Esterhuizen presence on the field was better than what De Allende actually delivered,    So ws Mostert - he was always in the areaa where the action took plaace - but never participate in the action itself.

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Dud actually  delivered minus 31 metres. Mostert 11 tackles…none missed.

look at Jordie B at 12

Dave he had 4 runs, beat 3 tackles and made 9 metres. What does that tell us? Yes, he was tractoring…taking contact with no pace and then struggling forward. That’s what he does…it doesn’t create clean breaks….he made none. 

And Esterhozen managed one clean  break in 3 runs. Because he runs at the gap not the tackler.

Neither player did much of note, but we saw what Esterhozen did at Twickenham, that’s what we should want.

We have had 10 years of Dud producing nothing, I’m happy to give Esterhozen a few games.

Rubbish Moz Esterhuizen targeted contact all game and made no impression. Once fucking up by taking contact instead of passing to a man on his outside who was in space

Mapimpi was not in space Dave, he had a defender right with him and another coming across in the 22, so he would have had to beat two. So at that point you have to choose between backing him and hoping he beats his man, or having him simply tackled into touch and you lose possession. It's a 50/50 call with no clear outcome, but I won't deny the case is there for backing the wing although there's not much space to exploit. Taking the tackle still meant good possession with the quick recycle, but unfortunately Mapimpi had his feet in touch as he picked it up to pass it back.

Tatw as a type of excuse thats ounds like BS to me.  If De A llende did what Esterhuizen did in that case he would be condemned by you lot and we will ah ve threads a mile long  about thaqt De Allende failure - when it happened to Esterhuizen he get praised for buggerin up an attack.     

The fact is Allende is more highly rated than AE is. Yet these nutters insist allende is useless! They are the lunatic fringe.

if they had argued that AE was marginally better than Allende they may have avoided this embarrassment but no as usual with them their man is great and the other guy is useless.

Their Allende debacle is of course not as bad as their absurd take on Du Toit and Rassie. 

These oaks need plenty of help understanding the game! 

Poor Pakster now thinks he is some sort of rugby analyst. Hahahahahhahahahaha they just keep digging!

The best 12-type break in the game was made by Roos.

Nothing else matters.

Some nice praise for DDA here and also some disappointment in AE.

I like the early points made. Logical and balanced.

Dud Allende has been around for 10 years and done nothing….now an old man at 32. We need to move on and find talent that can actually function in a backline that’s expected to be creative.

Ten years of nothing to remember, except for the try against Wales in 2019, when Biggar stupidly tried to strip instead of tackling.

What else…except him trotting alongside Nonu and Mo’unga….those are the abiding memories.

And your attacks on Morne and Mostert aren’t?

Normally test class hackline playes can last fto about 33 years of ag e and he ened for replacment became necessary due to the age  factor causing decline in performances.

At thius stage De Allende is stil classd by real experts as one of the best cneters in the world.