Is he in Mourning about what Stade Francais intends to do with his dearly beloved Morne? I atleast foesaw something like this and he went into hysterics. So is he running away because he is too cowardly to show his face here.
Poor Ceradunce - the moron went missing
In any case, I have hardly been on here yesterday. I had to go in to London and there was a hell of an issue with the trains. Of course you would try and pretend that I am bullshitting. So, have a look at this that I posted elsewhere.
I do not really worry about what happens. Your problem is that you respond to articles by reporters who only try to report what they pick up in the news in any case. You quoted and article that appeared in Sport 24, which they have taken from another article again. You clearly do not understand the situation at all and you like to come up with your knee-jerk reactions.
The European and the French rugby scene, in particular, is becoming more and more in line with what happens in football. They have certain transfer windows during which there are many speculations that starts flying around. There is a similar thing in SA but it is such a small market and there are so few movements that it hardly gets the same exposure as what happens in England and France.
I have told you before that SF was in the predicament, last year, that after they signed Steyn, Plisson started playing some real great rugby and was subsequently drafted into the French side. He did however early in this year lost his form again, and to such an extent that he was dropped from the National side. He has, in recent games, picked up form again and he is once again one of the hot favourites to be the French flyhalf. This is where the predicament for his club comes in. They are paying Steyn a hell of a salary and they cannot keep Plisson on the bench. There is also another thing that is starting to make waves, in French rugby. They are also bringing in a Financial Fair Play principle, similar to what they have just introduced in football. That means that a club's salary account may not exceed a certain % of their income. I will explain this and then comeback to Morne Steyn.
The Financial Fair Play means that clubs have to more reliant on their own resources and less on their owners throwing in more and more money. (Read this article as well: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/25/rugby-france-finance-idUKL3N0RQ4MK20140925 ) What has happened with many football clubs was that super rich owners just kept on throwing in more and more money to buy their way into titles. Problem is that many of these clubs just never "get on their own feet" on often ends up with owners just pulling out or selling the clubs, leaving them in the dumps. Had the FFP prinsciple been in force for the last three years, it would probably have been impossible for Boudjellal to build the Toulon empire that he did. He initially paid the salaries of Tana Umaga, et al, out of his own pocket. Toulon has been working with a plan, though, and they have slowly worked themselves out of their dependence on Boudjellal's resources and they are totally independent from him now. There are many more to write over this issue but let's leave it at that.
To get back to the SF and Morne Steyn. As I said, they are paying him a big salary and they cannot keep playing him as much as they play Plisson, if Plisson is to be the prime French flyhalf, let alone play him more than Plisson. Especially not if Plisson is delivering the same kind of play when he was first drafted into the French side.
Read this article: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/sep/18/the-breakdown-french-rugby-turmoil
I am not going to quote the entire thing. It is way to lengthy. The flyhalves is one issue though.
"The position of outside-half summed up their incoherence three years ago. François Trinh-Duc found himself relegated to the bench for the pool match against New Zealand with a scrum-half, Morgan Parra, given the No10 jersey. No cogent reason was given by the national coach, Marc Lièvremont, and it may as well have been because his double-barrelled surname was too Anglo-Saxon.
Lièvremont went after the World Cup final, which France were an offside call away from winning, but his spirit lives on in his successor, Philippe Saint-André, who has given the impression of treating selection like a chemical experiment, often seeing it blow up in his face. He may not be playing a nine at 10, even if Trinh-Duc did not find salvation in a change at the top, but outside-half remains a weakness. Saint-André has started six players in the position in 31 months, his indecision appearing final.
Saint-André was in Toulon at the weekend to watch one of his wildcards from last season help win the match for Stade Français, who were aided by some shocking goal-kicking by the home side. Leigh Halfpenny looked on from the stand and the ghost of Jonny Wilkinson haunted those placing the tee. Toulon, Saint-André’s former club, has undermined the national cause by hiring players from all over the world (although Saint-André did not protest when he was taking Mourad Boudjellal’s shilling)."
"Jules Plisson had an assuredness he lacked in the France jersey last season. (Read what have said above and what I have been saying for weeks now) There is always a debate about whether outside-halves should stand flat and get runners over the gainline, or lie deeper and manoeuvre attackers into space. But when Plisson saw a slither of an opening or a mismatch, he combined depth and flatness, running on to the ball at pace, getting in behind the defence and having a range of options as opponents scrambled back.
Plisson was playing because Morne Steyn was on Rugby Championship duty with South Africa, although there were occasions last season when Stade Français preferred the Frenchman to their expensive import. One excuse for Saint-André over his failure to settle on an outside-half is that a number of leading clubs have a foreigner at 10. Wilkinson filled the position for him at Toulon."
Saint Andre is starting to pressurise the clubs to play the national players and it just does not make sense for SF to have a player that earns as much as Steyn andnot being able to make full use of him. It would be better for him, and the club, if they "sell him off" to a club who does not have one of the national contenders at no 10. It would also benefit another club to have him. It is as simple as that.
PS.
Be that as it may. Here is some news for you:
http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/Steyne-veut-rester-a-paris/504979
Original text:
Depuis
quelques jours une rumeur faisait état d'un départ de Morne Steyn,
avant le terme de son contrat, du Stade Français. La faute à une
première saison où son adaptation n’a pas été totale et où Jules Plisson
s’est avéré un choix privilégié des coaches parisiens. Une rumeur que
le joueur et son entourage ont tenu à fermement démentir. « Il n’y a
jamais eu de discussion formelle ou informelle entre le club, le joueur
ou ses représentants », nous a confié l’agent du joueur.
De
manière générale, Steyn compte même aller plus loin que le simple
contrat qui le lie au Stade Français jusqu’en 2016. Le joueur, qui a
fait toute sa carrière aux Bulls, est du genre fidèle et son engagement
au Stade Français peut laisser penser qu’il y finirait bien sa carrière.
En tout cas, pour lui, il n’a jamais été question d’un départ anticipé.
Steyn, peu affecté par cette rumeur, est arrivé lundi à Paris en
provenance directe du Four Nations et il est prêt à revêtir le maillot
parisien dès le week-end prochain.
Google Translate:
In recent days a rumor reported a departure from Morne Steyn, before the end of his contract, the French stage. Blaming it on a first season where his adaptation was not complete and where Jules Plisson has been a preferred choice of coaches Parisians. A rumor that the player and his entourage held firmly deny. "There was never any formal or informal discussions between the club, the player or his representatives," we told the player's agent.
Overall, Steyn has to go even further than just the contract between the French Stadium until 2016 The player, who has spent his entire career with the Bulls, is the faithful and commitment at the Stade French may suggest there would end up his career. Anyway, for him, there was never any question of an early departure. Steyn, little affected by this rumor, arrived Monday in Paris directly from the Four Nations and is ready to take the jersey from the Paris next weekend."
There was a report that Stade fRancais i tryingto off-load Morne because he is so poor in erformances. Since that report the C;lub has denied it - but in Afrikaans they say - "Waar daar 'n rokie is is daar 'n vuurtjie."
They probably denied it because they did not want the infor to get into the public.
Look Dofdoos - I do not want to read evry article you could lay your hands on about the Stade Francais Reject. I cannot care a hoot about what Srtade Francais does with him - what i do care about is we are rid of the perrenial match loser from the Springboks.
Now bugger/piss off and do not bother me with your hero.
You start the thread, addressing me and when I repond tell me to p!ss off and not bother you. What do you have for brains? Mud? Doos.
clevermike is a dork and cera is a bitch
It's is always nice to read my future plans in the media,clever people!!I am at Stade Francais till 2016!Have a blessed day
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October 07, 2014, 21:05:42 Doffies if you were preparedto respond to the story on Morne Steyn given the boot at Stade feancais - then fine we can discuss that - but to flood me with newspaper reports about that Springbok has-never-been is a waste of time.
We will have to wait until they give him the boot then, I suppose. In the mean time your lies still remains that. Lies and BS. You have not once been able to back up one of your fables. Not a single one. Why don't you try to debate the points that I have made?


