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Post Mortem of the Boks vs Wales 2nd test

Started by sharkbok8 REPLIES228 VIEWS· 21 Jun 2014, 20:06
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
21 Jun 2014, 20:06
#1
21 Jun 2014, 20:06#1

Allot of things went wrong, so hard to pint point the key areas.


Some really poor play under the high ball was a major problem today. The Welsh kicks were well placed usually with a challenger in the air as the catcher was receiving the ball.


The breakdown effort was poor except by Bismaark, with Flouw no where to be seen. 


Flip getting sent off for turning a player in the air was also significant. 

The Bok scrum fell apart and this gave the Welsh the momentum back, just when it looked like the Boks were starting to get momentum. 


Flip was useless around the park and added no grunt to the pack.



Beast was useless, either knocking on or getting turned in the tackle.


Jannie was no where. 

Alberts was no where, might have made more impact when he was not on the pitch.


Fourie Dupreez was very average. He ruined a good movement passing the ball to Flouw who was allways going to get man and ball at the same time.


Morne was ok, but should have got Goosen on to get a running game going when behind. 


Jan Serfontein was very average apart from one decent grubber. 


Habana got no decent ball.


The team just did not seem to gell well today.



Players that made good contribution.


-Burger when he came on had a high work rate around the base of the rucks on defence. When he carries the ball it is allways cleared quickly from the base of the ruck once he is tackled, or he even passes the ball on the ground. 

This is great to get the next runner over the advantage line. Alberts of late has been playing like fat Albert- rather start Schalk


-Steenkamp. Scrums improved when he came on, and he was very strong running onto the ball. He was also very powerful around the fringes of the ruck. His best game since returning to the Boks. I would start him ahead of Beast. Steenkamp is more physical.


- Willie LeRoux-Boks would have lost the game if he was not on the pitch.


-Vermuelen- carried the workload of his missing forwards.


Matfield was good in the lineouts, and also the kick offs. He takes a very high percentage of the kick offs. Decent work rate in carries, tackles. 


Bismaark was competing well for turnovers, and had some solid carries. 


Hendriks was great with 2 tries


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2014, 20:18
#2
21 Jun 2014, 20:18#2
Sharkbok allow me to explain. The Sharks front row were flat. They are tired. Managment of them has been atrocious. No central contracting system.
Then we have pap matfield - he must go. Then we have Flip short of game time and not quite his best. Result pack did not do well. Only Duanne and Flouw played really well.
Consequence - big Welsh backs got lots of good front foot ball.
The pack was the big problem. It did not dominate for reasons mentioned. lack of intensity until the end when the fear of losing lifted the guys for a supreme effort.


 



AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
21 Jun 2014, 20:28
#3
21 Jun 2014, 20:28#3
 Without the "Willie" magic once again in this test the Springboks were absolutely one of the poorest performers  in the Green and Gold.
The rot starts at the top.
Poor management.Poor selections.Poor captaincy.Poor veterans.
This squad will not make the quarters in WC15.
The Welsh deserved to win but a silly foul by their #15 cost them the victory.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2014, 20:33
#4
21 Jun 2014, 20:33#4
Sharkbok
I already gave my assessment elsewhere.  In essence our inside backs and center pairing is deficient - Pietersen never was and never will be a decent 13.   Serfontein struggled because of the gaping holes in defense on both sides.   Morne was clueless and it is time we start looking at alternatives at scrumhalf.
The sooner we get the Tight 5 right the better it would be - Matfield looks good in  line outs - but that is where his usefulness ended.  He is physically not up to standard .  Flippie is at best a card seeking individual and a serious selection risk.   
Alberts is a serious liability while he was on the field and to be quite frank - I was not overly impressed by Burger either.  He tried to look busy - but was not really successful with that achieving nearly nothing in the process.        

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
22 Jun 2014, 15:37
#5
22 Jun 2014, 15:37#5
The ratings of 365 are pretty much the same as the assessment that I gave players
5 Willie le Roux:
Like most of his teammates was somewhat error-prone before the break, but then showed his class with ball in hand - including a crucial try inside the final 10 minutes.
7/10

14 Cornal Hendricks:
The rookie wing looked threatening with ball in hand, including a sublime break late in the game that set up Willie le Roux's try and another brilliant run that resulted in the match-winning  penalty try.
8/10

13 JP Pietersen:
Some early handling errors, but once he settled made all but one of his tackles and also had some handy runs.
6/10

12 Jan Serfontein:
Was rock solid on defence, missing just one tackle, and got over the advantage line a few times.
6/10

11 Bryan Habana:
Looked for work and won a crucial turnover penalty early in the second half, while he had a couple of promising runs.
6/10

10 Morné Steyn:
His game was littered with errors, but on defence he stood his ground and came into his own late in the game.
5/10

9 Fourie du Preez:
He struggled behind a pack of forwards that was unusually sloppy and only looked at ease once the game opened up late in the second half.
5/10

8 Duane Vermeulen:
Early mistake, when the sun appeared to be in his eyes, then missed a tackle and struggled to make ground with ball in hand. Also stood off the scrums far too early. But on defence he was a monster.
6/10

7 Willem Alberts:
Made nine tackles in his 20-odd minutes on the field and missed one.
6/10

6 Francois Louw:
He was one of the more accurate Boks, made his tackles (which went into double figures) and carried hard - with little reward.
7/10

5 Victor Matfield (captain):
Made his tackles and was dominant in the line-outs, including his customary poach.
6/10

4 Flip van der Merwe:
His eagerness cost his team at times, as he conceded a couple of penalties and was yellow carded in the second half. Continued working hard.
5/10

3 Jannie du Plessis:
His scrumming power was very evident in this game, even though he was handed two questionable penalties. Was very effective on defence.
6/10

2 Bismarck du Plessis:
Crucial turnover early in the match, but his line-out throwing not always accurate and he missed a few tackles.
4/10

1 Tendai Mtawarira:
Powerful in the scrums and made a mountain of tackles. Didn't make much ground with ball in hand.
6/10

Replacements:

16 Schalk Brits (on for BW du Plessis, 65th min):
Had one decent run, but then knocked the ball on. Made all his tackles.
5/10

17 Gurthrö Steenkamp (on for Mtawarira, 65th min):
Monstered the scrums after he came on, but could work harder off the ball.
5/10

18 Coenie Oosthuizen (on for JN du Plessis, 58th min):
Made all his tackles, but made no ground with ball in hand.
5/10

19 Lodewyk de Jager (on for van der Merwe, 45th minute - blood):
Not enough time to be rated.

20 Schalk Burger (on for Alberts, 24th min):
His workrate, energy and physical presence had a huge impact on the game.
8/10

21 Ruan Pienaar (on for Steyn, 23rd min - blood):
Not enough time to be rated.

22 Wynand Olivier (on for Serfontein , 74th min):
Not enough time to be rated.

23 Lwazi Mvovo:
Not used
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2014, 15:54
#6
22 Jun 2014, 15:54#6
 Sharkbok
Some players were over-rated by up to 2 out of 10.  Burger was active - but nFlip ot effective at all.   Same with Matfield and Alberts.  At least the following were rated 1 out of 10 too high:-
Pietersen,  Morne Steyn, Fourie du Preez and  Flip van der Merwe (serious ill-discipline).
I do not argue with the stats quoted - what made a serious sifference is the effectiveness of plays involving the above players.
The other issue is that Hendricks did well when put into space by Le Roux - but L Roux is given less points out of 10 than Hendricks.   Without Le Roux the test would have been lost and badly so.         
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2014, 22:09
#7
22 Jun 2014, 22:09#7
Sharkbok  do you get it now, Old Scumbag has just laid out the 233 rd version of his standard diatribe. Absent Matfield, Wille and Hendricks we don't win that game...one vet and two newer players. It's easy when you aren't biased.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2014, 22:17
#8
22 Jun 2014, 22:17#8
Mozart 
I wanted more points for Willie and less for the two poor geriatrics.  They definitely deserve nothing more than 4 ratings.
Be it as it may - even the present ratings is dismal enough - and should show warning lights flashing all over the show that things have gone awry with Meyer going back more and more to his non-performing pals and favourites.   
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Jun 2014, 16:32
#9
23 Jun 2014, 16:32#9
Its simple, the Boks are a shit side  
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