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PREVIEW: SOUTH AFRICA V SAMOA; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Sept 2015, 07:38
#1
25 Sept 2015, 07:38#1

Most of the Samoan team play for clubs abroad - England, France, Italy, New Zealand and Australia.

Only one of this team plays his rugby in Samoa - scrumhalf Vavao Afemai.

They are professional players, professionally trained, used to mixing it with professional players around the globe.

But they have their own hard edge to their play, which Springboks have felt over the years - especially at World Cups.

South Africa and Samoa have met eight times, five times in South Africa and three times on neutral grounds.

Samoa have never beaten South Africa, which may be  an irrelevant figure in the wake of what the Japanese did in Brighton.

But mostly the Samoans have been satisfied with rattling Springbok bones.

South Africa have been to five World Cups and four times they have played Samoa.

In 1995 the two teams met in the quarterfinal of the World Cup, Chester Williams scored four tries and several Springboks were hurt - Andre Joubert most seriously. It took a miracle of medical science to get his hand good enough for the semifinal and the Final.

In 2003 they met in a pool match in Brisbane, when they all knelt together to pray. That was the year when Brian Lima tackled Derick Hougaard in possibly - probably actually - the toughest tackle ever at the World Cup.

In 2007 they met in Paris, when Jean de Villiers was injured and in 2011 in Albany, when the Springboks had their smallest victory, one try each, a Samoan sent off and Frans Steyn injured.

It is a consummation devoutly to be wished that this match this Saturday may be free of untoward incident and of tournament-ending injury.

Both sides have played at this World Cup - Samoa beating the United States 25-16 and South Africa suffering the ignominy of defeat at the hands of the Japanese.

That means that both sides have big incentives.

Samoa will be seeking a quarterfinal spot by ending in the top two in the pool, while the South Africans will be hellbent on stopping the mocking that was as loud as hyenas laughing over a piece of meat.

The Samoans must be licking their lips, wanting to get stuck into the Springboks as never before.

It could just be the most physical match of the whole 2015 World Cup.

The Springboks will surely be better at set pieces and line-out mauls, but they will have their work cut out when the Samoans start throwing bodies about.

Players to Watch.

For South Africa: There are different reasons for watching players - watching Jean de Villiers and Duane Vermeulen to see if they are all right, watching Willie le Roux to see what magic he can weave and watching Damian de Allende running straight and strongly.

For Samoa: Tim Nanai-Williams, the fullback who was the lightness and brightness of their match with the US, can set any game alight with his ability to counterattack. Smal and light as he is, there is big Paul Perez who was excellent at centre against the US, and prop-like Alesana Tuilagi on the left wing.  In the pack the rugged No.8 Ofisa Treviranus  could well stand out again. Mike Stanley is a person of interest, in for Tusi Pisi at flyhalf. He is part of the big family that includes All Blacks - uncle Joe and cousins Benson and Jeremy. Born in Auckland, he grew up in England, starting out at Saracens Under-14 and playing age-group rugby for England.

Head to Head: Experienced, controlling power, instinctive player Fourie du Preez in a scrumhalf battle with lively, surprising Kahn Fotuali'i, both excellent scrumhalves - though Du Preez needs to prove match readiness after a long lay-off. They are both 33. Flyhalf versus flyhalf, always a crucial part of the game, Handré Pollard versus Michael Stanley. Pollard is young but has played twice as many as Stanley's seven Tests. Playmaker versus Playmaker - Willie le Roux against Tim Nanai-Williams. That could become the most exciting part of the game. Physical versus Physical - the two No.8s, Dwayne Vermeulen vs Ofisa Treviranus.

Previous results.
2013: South Africa won 56-23, Pretoria
2011: South Africa won 13-5, Albany (World Cup pool match)
2007: South Africa won 59-7, Paris (World Cup pool match)
2007: South Africa won 35-8, Johannesburg
2003: South Africa won 60-10, Brisbane (World Cup pool match)
2002: South Africa won 60-18, Pretoria
1995: South Africa won 42-14, Johannesburg (World Cup quarterfinal match)
1995: South Africa won 60-8, Johannesburg

Prediction: After everybody who predicted last Saturday got it wrong, one realises that this prediction is on shaky ground but still we believe that the Springboks will win by over 20 points.

Teams

Samoa: 15 Tim Nanai-Williams, 14 Ken Pisi, 13 Paul Perez, 12 Rey Lee-Lo, 11 Alesana Tuilagi, 10 Mike Stanley, 9 Kahn Fotuali'i, 8 Ofisa Treviranus (captain), 7 Jack Lam, 6 TJ Ioane, 5 Iosefa Tekori, 4 Teofilo Paulo, 3 Anthony Perenise, 2 Motu Matu'u, 1 Sakaria Taulafo.
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Viliamu Afatia, 18 Census Johnston, 19 Faifili Levave, 20 Vavae Tuilagi, 21 Vavao Afemai, 22 Tusi Pisi, 23 George Pisi.

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers (captain), 12 Damian De Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Lodewyk de Jager, 20 Siya Kolisi, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jesse Kriel.

Date: Saturday, 16 September 2015
Venue: Villa Park, Birmingham
Kick-off: 16.45 (15.45 GMT; 17.45 SA time; 05.45 Sunday, September 27, Samoan time)
Expected weather: A clear day with a high of 18°C, dropping to 5°C
Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)           
Assistant referees: JP Doyle (England), Angus Gardner (Australia)            
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)

By Paul Dobson
@rugby365com

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Sept 2015, 07:41
#2
25 Sept 2015, 07:41#2
 Well this is it, Boks have to deliver! Samoa won't make it easy & Brycy won't either
Looking forward to a good game & we will see i f the Boks get the result & answers that they need.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2015, 08:49
#3
25 Sept 2015, 08:49#3
 our genuis coach is not worried about samoan thuggery and will meet the callenge with the very experienced victir matfield. Neither do we need the worlds most physical hooker. Ref please blow these thugs off the park or at least givr the Boks permission.to sirt.them out! I have no time at all for samoaner rugby. Dirtiest side in world rugby whose sole aum is to.injure via diry play to help the wee abs. So ref lets see you doing your job.
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
25 Sept 2015, 09:50
#4
25 Sept 2015, 09:50#4
It's gonna be a cracker of a game.GO DA BOKKE KICK SOME BUTT!!
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2015, 09:59
#5
25 Sept 2015, 09:59#5
 Just wish Lood and Bissie were starting. W e would be finding 70 meter touch finders Monster!
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
25 Sept 2015, 10:23
#6
25 Sept 2015, 10:23#6

 ...Bean Brain,i'm sure you'll be just fine..



WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
25 Sept 2015, 10:27
#7
25 Sept 2015, 10:27#7
 "Dirtiest side in world rugby " .You should watch and read Corne Krige on the 2002 tharshing by the poms ,the filthiest game of all time so you know beandiks in glass houses .
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2015, 10:54
#8
25 Sept 2015, 10:54#8
 Away with the Samaoners the dirtiest rugby players on the planet exceeding even the wee abs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see the bookies are saying Boks will win by 17. Sub the pathetic matfiled as soon as possible - his big ego allowing.
Brycy the fat samoans are toast. They can thank the  JAps for the spanking they will receive:
ex Supersport:

Birmingham - After committing the rugby version of hara-kiri following their sensational defeat by Japan, South Africa are ready to get their Rugby World Cup campaign back on track against Samoa on Saturday.

The Springboks went down to a last-gasp 34-32 defeat by the Japanese in their opening Pool B game.

The biggest upset in modern-day rugby led to leading South African rugby administrators, coach Heyneke Meyer and players into a rash of public self-flagellation rarely seen in sport.

Meyer apologised to the nation for the humiliation.

"The last few days have been a time for retrospection and the team this week has been selected specifically with Samoa in mind, as we know we'll have to be at our very best to succeed," he said.(SO WHY LEAVE OUT BISSIE AND LOOD YA HATTER!!!!)

Still fresh in the memory is the way Samoa pushed South Africa all the way in the 2011 World Cup before going down 13-5.

Ten of Samoa's match-day squad remain from that day, something not lost on Meyer.

"They will pose a massive challenge and I think it's fair to say that it's the biggest game of the season for us. They have a very strong team with players plying their trade all over the world," the coach said.

Samoa kicked off their World Cup this time around with a 25-16 victory over the United States, but coach Stephen Betham has warned his team of "massive warfare" in the looming clash.

He has brought in Mike Stanley at flyhalf in place of veteran Tusi Pisi, who drops to the bench after an erratic kicking display against the Americans.

"But in saying that we can't come to a war with our hands and a pocket knife, we've got to bring all we've got and face up.

"We've always expected South Africa to be our toughest opponent here and that hasn't changed one bit. We expect them to be even harder now because that surprise factor is not in there."

Betham said he expected the 'Boks to be fired up after their shock opening defeat.

"We are not expecting anything less from South Africa," he said.

"We are expecting a fired up South African side: a side that is out to prove a point, a side that is hungry for a win.

"They have got all the professional players to do that, and it’s just a case of them gelling."

Meyer could call up three players nominated for the World Rugby player of the year award over the last two years - lock Eben Etzebeth, No 8 Duane Vermeulen and fullback Willie Le Roux, while Jean de Villiers continues as captain, but from outside centre.

A row in South Africa over the racial composition of the side - part of the process of post-apartheid 'transformation' - which intensified after the Japan defeat, is sure to be revived again given there are now only six non-white players in Meyer's match day 23 to play Samoa, compared to seven last time out.

However, as was the case for the loss to Japan, four non-white players will start with wings JP Pietersen and Bryan Habana, centre Damian de Allende and Zimbabwe-born prop Tendai Mtawarira all in South Africa's 1st XV.

Thank goodness they count the portuguese Allende as a person of colour! Hahahahahahaahhahaha

The government 'target' is to have seven non-white players in a match day 23 and five on the pitch at any one time, although this is an aspiration rather than a strict requirement.

AWAY WITH THE RACIST ANC - IRB TAKE NOTE PLEASE AND YOU COULD START BY SENDING THE ANC RACISTS A FIRMLY WORDED LETTER. 

THANKS.

WE CAN OF COURSE EXPECT NO SUPPORT FROM THE KBBS REGARDING THIS MATTER!!!! IT APPEARS THEIR ACTIVISM IN PAST YEARS WAS NOT A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE AFTER ALL.  


Teams:

South Africa

15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers (captain), 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Lood de Jager, 20 Siya Kolisi, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jesse Kriel

Samoa

15 Tim Nanai-Williams, 14 Ken Pisi, 13 Paul Perez, 12 Ray Lee-Lo, 11 Alesana Tuilagi, 10 Mike Stanley, 9 Kahn Fotuali'i, 8 Ofisa Treviranus (captain), 7 Jack Lam, 6 TJ Ioane, 5 Iosefa Tekori, 4 Teofilo Paulo, 3 Anthony Perenise, 2 Motu Matu'u, 1 Sakaria Taulafo

Substitutes: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Viliamu Afatia, 18 Census Johnston, 19 Faifili Levave, 20 Vavae Tuilagi, 21 Vavao Afemai, 22 Tusi Pisi, 23 George Pisi

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:02
#9
25 Sept 2015, 11:02#9
 Lood is on the bench Beeno, does he need a rest after dealing with the Blossoms?
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:18
#10
25 Sept 2015, 11:18#10
 Nope JW, matfield needs a rest like in retiremnet - NOW.
If the smoaners repeat their tactics of the last RWC I recommend they are banned for 4 years - meaning they misss the next one and all the possible tests in between.We dont want someone killed or maimed for life by their foul play now do we. 
No more protection of the under dog refs. Blow the samoaners off the park if they attempt their usual extremely dirty play. Brycy your team suck big, big time. Even worse than the wee abs!!!!!!!! 
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:19
#11
25 Sept 2015, 11:19#11
 Hey Beeno learn to spell, what are you from japan or something .
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:21
#12
25 Sept 2015, 11:21#12
Obelix De Jager will come on in the 55th minute replacing Bruno Etsebeth ....  Matfield, will of course, play the entire game . At lineout time & in the backline his guidance will always be required . A special congrats too this being his 125th test .
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:23
#13
25 Sept 2015, 11:23#13
 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:28
#14
25 Sept 2015, 11:28#14
 Not funny blobbie and same can be said about 3 IQ! Focus on the issues oaks!
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:34
#15
25 Sept 2015, 11:34#15
... Bean Brain what team will you be barracking for after SA's early exit..?? 
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:35
#16
25 Sept 2015, 11:35#16
 Ok I admit that I might have the replacement time wrong ...... Etsebeth might be out of puff by the 49th minute .
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2015, 11:37
#17
25 Sept 2015, 11:37#17
 
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