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Puke Watson to turn up at the Sharks?

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
18 Dec 2013, 15:58
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18 Dec 2013, 15:58#1

Jake calls on Watson

December 18, 2013

Jake White will assess Luke Watson in the new year and says he has no issue with picking the player he was forced to include as a Springbok in 2007.

World Cup winning coach White, who will lead the Sharks 2014 Super Rugby challenge, has already made contact with Watson.

‘It was a very encouraging and exciting telephonic chat,’ Watson told Keo.co.za. ‘I should be training again by mid-January and be available to play near the end of February. Jake said we would chat again mid January and asked for a regular update on my injury recovery.’

Watson had an operation mid year because of a fracture in his foot.

White, in 2007, was infamously forced to include Watson in his Springbok squad because of politics.

Watson says both men have moved on from the unfortunate events of 2007.

‘So much of what happened back then was third-party related. It is history. What excites me is the now and what is possible in the future. I am committed to the Kings but have always stated my desire to play Super Rugby again – and Jake’s phone call gives me hope that if my fitness and form is good enough I will be a consideration at the Sharks. It adds to the motivation for 2014.’

Watson made his Super Rugby debut for the Sharks as a 19 year-old before moving to the Stormers. He then captained English club Bath before returning to Port Elizabeth four years ago.

White, who enjoyed two seasons with the Brumbies in Australia, believes the Sharks are good enough to win Super Rugby.

‘The Sharks have incredible depth and I will look to any player who can add to the depth of the squad and to a successful 2014 challenge,’ said White. ‘I have already drafted in a few Kings players who impressed me in 2013. Luke missed half the Super Rugby season because of injury and I wanted to establish his recovery period from the foot operation. I also wanted him to know that I wanted to have a look at him when he was fit again and that as far as I was concerned the past belongs in the past and that all I was interested in was putting together the best possible Sharks squad.’

White’s Sharks have been in pre-season training since November 18. The squad will take two weeks out over the Christmas period and reassemble in the first week of January. The side will also play against Saracens in London on January 25.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
18 Dec 2013, 16:01
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18 Dec 2013, 16:01#2
 "I am committed to the Kings" but have always stated my desire to play Super Rugby again.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Dec 2013, 16:37
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18 Dec 2013, 16:37#3
Moz wont be happy  
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
18 Dec 2013, 19:14
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18 Dec 2013, 19:14#4
Neither will I or any true Bok or Shark supporter.
ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
18 Dec 2013, 19:21
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18 Dec 2013, 19:21#5
Well, if Jake sees something in him, then there must be a reason. But it doesn't mean anything yet. He still has to have a look at Luke first, he in all likeliness will end up like Tim Tebow. At least this shows the extent to which Jake will go to build this team, buckling personal pride. It shows good character. If nothing else, this at least puts my mind at ease that the Sharks have a bright future ahead of them.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Dec 2013, 19:45
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18 Dec 2013, 19:45#6

Luke is a good player and the Sharks do not have a true openside........makes perfect sense to sign him.

 

He has also grown up and discarded the baggage  

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
18 Dec 2013, 20:13
#7
18 Dec 2013, 20:13#7
 Whether he is the real deal now, I'm not so certain. But under Jake's program, if he puts his head down and loses the lip, he could become a great player. I thought the same thing as you, the Sharks need a true openside flank.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Dec 2013, 20:38
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18 Dec 2013, 20:38#8
 snapster surely Luke is too old? He is thirty Like Schalk Burger I believe but never remotely in Schalk's class.
Whilst I approve of Jake's mature and decent approach one does wonder if Luke is good enough to play Super 15. His work rate is poor and he is a bit of a show pony these days. 
He cannot rely on being selected because he is captain. He will actually have to play his way into the side. Is he good enough even as a back up player. Time will tell but there has to be doubt.

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
18 Dec 2013, 20:45
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18 Dec 2013, 20:45#9
Like I said, we'll have to wait and see what Jake says once he has had a look at him. Alot of people thought Jake was nuts when he plucked Jesse Mogg, but look how that turned out.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2013, 20:48
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18 Dec 2013, 20:48#10

On the face of it, this sounds absurd. I think Jake is perhaps relating to his success with George Smith.....but I know George smith and Luke Watson is no George Smith, never has been, nor ever will be.

 

At best this is a bit of media hype.

OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
18 Dec 2013, 20:58
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18 Dec 2013, 20:58#11
Jake built the Brumbies by recruiting neglected or little-known talent and inserting them into a proven, risk-averse game plan. He is no fool when it comes to assessing players.
But why is this even news? They had a conversation, that's it. And since when is a phone call called a "telephonic chat"  - as if you're from another planet.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Dec 2013, 21:15
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18 Dec 2013, 21:15#12
Um Beenkop, I am not calling for Watson to play Bok rugby, just the Sharks  
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
18 Dec 2013, 21:17
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18 Dec 2013, 21:17#13
"And since when is a phone call called a "telephonic chat"  - as if you're from another planet."
LMFAO,

i shall check on the interweb to make sure that telephonic chat is a cromulent term.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
18 Dec 2013, 21:27
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18 Dec 2013, 21:27#14
regarding luke watson and jake white,,,

big ups to both parties for trying to make something work from this.

luke watson in the games he played for the kings showed that he still has what it takes to compete at spXV level, and while he has no silverware, the brumbies are much better offor having white when they did.

this is the kind of attitude that wins tournaments, but if it is all fake and just a PR stunt of some kind, then sharks wont accomplish much, especially when teams like the crusaders and chiefs have the real deal hollyfield synergy from top to bottom with no hint of subterfuge.
FO
ForeverArizonaClub Pro580 posts
20 Dec 2013, 08:50
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20 Dec 2013, 08:50#15

Lets hope this is just a rumor and othing more. LOL 

 

Saying that,did he not start his playing career at the Sharks?

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Dec 2013, 09:33
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20 Dec 2013, 09:33#16
 Waht the sharks need is an opensider. Since has Luke been an opensider. He certainly is no fetcher! Anyhow Jake is no fool so we will have to see. My problem with Luke is that when watching him in recent years a few times he has been a passenger. Low work rate in the games I saw. Doesnt get stuck in and likes the show pony stuff. He should go and play for the wee abs! Bwahahahahahhahaha 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2013, 09:49
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20 Dec 2013, 09:49#17

 There  are person problems her as well.   It seems that there was a big breakup between John Smit and Luke Watson at one stage and he left the Sharks in a huff as a result.   Will John welcome him back?  I am not so sure about that one.


Question - Is he an opensider?   As far as I can remember he played at 7 for the Kings in the few games he played in Super 15 this year.   In any event he will only with difficulty make the team as Marcel Coetzee is still the preferred opensider for the Sharks and they have both Sloth and Deysel as blindsiders - not that any of the latter two has anything remotely relating to a rugby brain between the two o f them.

 

      

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 Dec 2013, 12:21
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20 Dec 2013, 12:21#18
 


clevermike

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December 20, 2013, 07:49:20

 There  are person problems her as well.   It seems that there was a big breakup between John Smit and Luke Watson at one stage and he left the Sharks in a huff as a result. 



Go read Captain in the Cauldron - John Smit. Page 208 -211.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
23 Dec 2013, 01:54
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23 Dec 2013, 01:54#19
 
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