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Pumas beat Wobblies; Rugby Stuff

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Oct 2014, 10:35
#1
05 Oct 2014, 10:35#1

The Wallabies' miserable tour has ended with a historic 21-17 loss to Argentina in Mendoza.

Australia squandered an early 14-0 advantage to hand the Pumas their first-ever Rugby Championship win in front of a delirious crowd at Estadio Malvinos Argentinos on Saturday night (Sunday morning NZT).

The humbling defeat came after a week of turmoil in Australia's ranks, with the Wallabies reeling from Kurtley Beale's in-flight run-in with management staff, a monster travel schedule and several injuries.

Little went right on the pitch after the Wallabies' flying start, with tries in the opening 14 minutes to centre Tevita Kuridrani and No 8 Scott Higginbotham.

Halfback Nick Phipps and flanker and captain Michael Hooper were both sin-binned in the second half as the inspired Pumas reeled in Australia's early point-a-minute lead to record a rousing win.

The loss was Australia's first to Argentina since 1997 and left the Wallabies with just narrow wins over the Pumas and the Springboks, and a draw with the All Blacks to show from their Rugby Championship campaign.

The Pumas, though, are celebrating their first Rugby Championship win after three years and 18 Tests against the southern hemisphere giants.

The Wallabies opened the scoring with a fine counter-attacking try in the fourth minute.

Hooper intercepted and raced 30 metres before quick recycling and spreading of the ball out the backline to Kuridrani put the in-form centre over.

Revelling in his first test start since 2012, Higginbotham cashed in on short ball from hooker Saia Fainga'a to dive over next to the posts in the 14th minute.

Five-eighth Bernard Foley's twin conversions gave the Wallabies a 14-0 lead.

But the match turned after the Wallabies lost classy midfielder Matt Toomua to concussion on the half hour.

Argentina roared back into the contest with a try by big No 8 Leonardo Senatore shortly after and a penalty goal just before halftime to flyhalf Nicolas Sanchez.

Leading 14-8 at halftime, Australia were soon down to 14 men for the first time when Phipps was dismissed for a professional foul.

Sanchez and Foley traded penalty goals before the Pumas capitalised on Phipps' absence with a try to winger Juan Imhoff from a scrum win inside the Australian quarter.

Sanchez's sideline conversion set up a tense final 20 minutes.

The fervent Argentina fans seemed to have even more to cheer about when, after Phipps returned to the action, referee Nigel Owens issued a yellow card to Wallabies fullback Israel Folau for tackling counterpart Joaquin Tuculet in the air.

But after watching a replay on the big screen, Owens reversed the decision, saving Australia from being a player short for another 10 minutes in the desperately tight second half.

The reprieve helped, but Foley missed two penalty goal attempts, including one sitter that hit the upright, inside the last 10 minutes.

Hooper ended the night in the bin after being dispatched for what the referee deemed a clumsy aerial challenge on Truculet.

Sanchez had the final say with a late penalty goal before fireworks were unleashed in Mendoza to mark the historic victory.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Oct 2014, 10:52
#2
05 Oct 2014, 10:52#2
I didn't watch it either Cloudy but is it downloading soon. Not good if the win was won in a very controversial manner but glad the Pumas finally won.  It should help their rugby following.
Wobblies have looked ify to me for sometime so I am not surprised they lost as Pumas have been improving & playing at home. This laser thing is a disgrace & has to stop.
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
05 Oct 2014, 11:39
#3
05 Oct 2014, 11:39#3
 I saw it and Nigel Owens had another poor Reffing performance. 
The laser issue is a disgrace, as is the general fan behaviour. If the laser issue persists, they should be banned. Simple as that, maybe that would stop it ? No international Rugby until you quit blinding the opposition with laser pens ? 

That Penalty should have been re-taken. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Oct 2014, 12:19
#4
05 Oct 2014, 12:19#4
 I am very happy for the sake of the Argentinians - matter of fact I was one of 27% of the Suprbru members who forecasted a Pumas win by 6 points.
The Pumas are showing signs of improving in their performances and they hae some really good youngsters coming through.   I think that Tomas is one of those.   I think they would improve further by participation in the Super 17 from 2016 onwards.   At present the game in Argentina is not really professionalized as yet - most of their top players play rugby in Europe - so the Super 17 will enhance professional rugby in Argentina as well - meaning they will have a wider choice for international duty.       
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
05 Oct 2014, 12:45
#5
05 Oct 2014, 12:45#5
 Nigel Owens has many bad days at the office and is getting worse. I don't know what this rubbish about him being the best ref is all about. He was very poor and yes, I remember that too, Cloudy.He should have had another kick at goal and they should face sanctions until this stops.They have always been hideous to play in Argentina, and no rubbish about passion please, but this is plain dangerous to people's sight and is cheating pure and simple.
By the way, I was hoping they would win, but this is just a rubbish way to get a result. 
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
05 Oct 2014, 13:37
#6
05 Oct 2014, 13:37#6
 Don't agree with booing either, Cloudy.We have always been brought up to respect the opposition and to just take it on the chin, whether we like the decision or not. I don't agree with what is happening to the game, just my opinion. At my club, you can hear a pin drop when the opposition kick for goal....we pride ourselves on maintaining that sort of standard. 
But lasers ? That is simply unacceptable. 

Nigel Owens gets worse these days. Another poor performance from him really. 
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
05 Oct 2014, 14:34
#7
05 Oct 2014, 14:34#7
Wallabies were just not good enough in the end. Things may not have gone our way but that's rugby. Good win to the Argies and good for the game. Showed up some real deficiencies in our side.  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Oct 2014, 15:31
#8
05 Oct 2014, 15:31#8
Argentinians whistle which is the equivalent of booing; the green laser is equiva lent to lunacy.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
05 Oct 2014, 15:39
#9
05 Oct 2014, 15:39#9
The pumas were going to win sooner or later. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Oct 2014, 15:49
#10
05 Oct 2014, 15:49#10
 SB: In your avatar pic Meyer looks like he is having a heart attack.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
05 Oct 2014, 16:25
#11
05 Oct 2014, 16:25#11
Becs, yes it's criminal when some hooligan shines a laser beam in a kickers eyes...it's not the Pumas fault however and this is not the first time it's happened.

What I think should become procedure if this happens, the kicker raise an objection immediately with the ref before he kicks and all efforts should be policed to catch the culprit/s and be arrested...some surveilance should be done because it's a serious offence and should be arrested and charged...the penalties of guilty parties should be severe.

If the ref automatically gives another shot at goal (if the first misses) this could be abused as who knows and the proof is needed. Punish the offender and not the penalised team.

Incidentally Mike, Tomas had apparently a very poor game... rated 4/10 by 365 rugby...no I haven't seen the game yet...nevertheless I'm glad they broke their duck...it was on the cards eventually...Boks escaped twice from a near loss, last year with a draw and this year at Salta and the Wallabies at Perth.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Oct 2014, 17:07
#12
05 Oct 2014, 17:07#12
 I am watching the game now & just saw Skelton come on. He looks like he looks fatt er.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Oct 2014, 17:23
#13
05 Oct 2014, 17:23#13
It was a scrappy game that seemed out of control with all the penalties, scrum re-sets, niggle, etc.  Wasn't clear to me if either team was innocent but the Wobblies copped 3 yellows. The one against Hooper sounded like it was partially a result of accumulated penalties. Hooper was in the air to try when he ran into the Pumas who was trying to catch the ball.
Congrats to the Pumas but it was not a good game to watch & the game had a bad smell about it.
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