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redsmanPro1,710 posts
13 Oct 2019, 14:56
#1
13 Oct 2019, 14:56#1

Well... this makes for very interesting pointy end of the tournament...


Saffas throwing the game v ABs was inspired.... lol...


So:

Poms v Aus

NZ v Ire


Saf v Japan

Wal v Fra


Saf side of the draw the easy one... on paper... or computer screen...


AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:04
#2
13 Oct 2019, 15:04#2

Not necessarily. It's unlikely Japan will be easy. It looks like a bad match up as we are especially vulnerable to being moved around. Our frail defence will be tested. Wales are actually a tougher match up for the Boks than England and Ireland. Since late 2004 these games have tended to be very tight, decided by a few points and intensely physical. They completely blunted the Bok game in November and look just as good now. France would be the preferred opponent, but they have caused us problems under Rassie as well as Coetzee.

I'd prefer Australia or New Zealand over Wales and Japan. I know we can beat those two. England are still the favourites. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:24
#3
13 Oct 2019, 15:24#3

Lizzy Page

Big mouth as per normal - knows  bugger-all about rugby and cannot understand the game at all,   He said the Springbok defense is frail - but they make their tackles except Fat Fransie who missed three tackles against Japan and hopefully he will not be used, 

The Springboks beat the full Japan team a month ago in a pre-WC game by 41 -7 and will beat Japan again in the quarterfinals.

So lets see what the SA team is likely to look like for the quarterfinal:-

15  Le Roux, 14  Nkosi, 13 Am, 12  De Allende, 11  Kolbe, 10  Pollard, 9  De Klerk, 8  Vermeulen, 7  Du Toit, 6  Kolisi, 5  De Jager, 4  Etzebeth, 3  Malherbe, 2  Mbonambi, 1 Mtawarira

16  Marx, 17  Kitshoff, 18  Koch, 19  Snyman, 20  Louw, 21 Reinach, 22  Willemse, 23  Mapimpi

      

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:24
#4
13 Oct 2019, 15:24#4

Duplication

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:24
#5
13 Oct 2019, 15:24#5

Lizzy Page

Duplication

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:25
#6
13 Oct 2019, 15:25#6

japan peaked tonight no question in my mind... boks will put 20-30 on them... if dont do the box kick tactics...

i also suspect fran ce to actually show up v wales... could be upset there...

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:27
#7
13 Oct 2019, 15:27#7

Frail defence?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:32
#8
13 Oct 2019, 15:32#8

Redsman

I am hoping Australia beat the pompous poms and new Zealand beat Ireland.  Wales had two rather poor pool games and was very lucky to beat Australia.   The French is likely to play ping pong with them.

So I hope the teams going through to the semi are-

New Zealand  vs  France

South Africa  vs Australia



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:32
#9
13 Oct 2019, 15:32#9

Redsman

I am hoping Australia beat the pompous poms and new Zealand beat Ireland.  Wales had two rather poor pool games and was very lucky to beat Australia.   The French is likely to play ping pong with them.

So I hope the teams going through to the semi are-

New Zealand  vs  France

South Africa  vs Australia



PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:34
#10
13 Oct 2019, 15:34#10

England v Oz will be a refereeing shocker.

The ABs will also be out in the 1/4s. 

My grand cynical theory is that they wanted 1 SH team in the 1/2 finals. 

They also England to win it...maybe Wales. Bad news for Oz.

Ireland are more likely to beat the ABs than Japan is to beat the Boks.

It'll be easier to screw the ABs in the 1/4s than SA.

So both ABs and Oz w ill be out at 1/4 final stage. 

And the Boks at 1/2 stage.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Oct 2019, 15:45
#11
13 Oct 2019, 15:45#11
Exactly Draad - this idiot says we have a frail defence - no need to read any further It’s the usual bullshit added with a spice of player prejudice
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
13 Oct 2019, 16:11
#12
13 Oct 2019, 16:11#12

The most likely semi-final outcome of the quarters should be: 

- (Semi 1):  England vs All Blacks

- (Semi 2): Springboks vs Wales

England has a chance of beating the All Blacks, whereas Wales could also beat the Boks. 

If the All Blacks had played Wales, I think the All Blacks would win easily. However, England's pack could bully the All Blacks. 

Wales has skill and pace in the backs, along with some good forwards. 



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2019, 16:41
#13
13 Oct 2019, 16:41#13

I would rather than in semi 2 have Wales than France to play the Springboks,  I am afraid despite their troubles France is likely to beat .Wales depending which French team turns up at the quarter-finals,   

Anyway I think the Springboks have an easier way to the finals than the other teams have,  

My guess is the final will be between New Zealand and SA.    

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2019, 16:41
#14
13 Oct 2019, 16:41#14

Dup

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
14 Oct 2019, 00:09
#15
14 Oct 2019, 00:09#15

something about the french at world cups... all their player revolution media may have been a clever rue. I think too they will bring their A game v Welsh... hopefully anyway...

Plum - you see things clearly... I think the reality is that in every single game the aussies have played the refs have gone out of their way to cite / ref the aussies in as poorer possible light to ensure that when Peyper takes the field he will have jsutification to screw the aussies... seen it way too many times to ignore this pattern...

I think from a marketing perspective NH team to win is what is needed ... and the money in france / UK / Jpn for rugby is inordinate compared to money in SH.

Will be interesting to watch outcomes... 

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
14 Oct 2019, 01:12
#16
14 Oct 2019, 01:12#16

...Redsman the Kiwi ref let Hodges off for an ugly shoulder charge to the head of the Fijian....so obviously Australia has recieved special prefer ential treatment.... you should be thanking the generous Kiwis for that or down to 14 men and trailing against Fiji  you'd be out of the RWC by now...what an ungrateful POS you are... 

....btw great win for the Kiwis at Bathurst on the w/e.....when are you Aussies gunna learn how to drive..

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
14 Oct 2019, 04:09
#17
14 Oct 2019, 04:09#17

haha I was trying to work out if the drivers involved in the 'unsporting' like behaviour were indeed from new sheepland... thank you for clarifying... TBH dont care much for V8 supercars... F1 more my thing... do u kiwis have a driver in that..? lol...

I am sorry for being a prick to kiwi friends... but I just cant help it... I do have a problem... 

I am now keen to watch some QF rugby that game last night was just good footy - 

It was what the code can be when refs arent the key players... and not stop start affair due to poor ball handling skills...

Whoever wins from here will be deserving and I promise I will congratulate the kiwis if they win this RWC ... do you even realise how hard that is for me to do........?!?  

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
14 Oct 2019, 04:52
#18
14 Oct 2019, 04:52#18
...Redsman what i nsportsmanlike behaviour was that ... i only heard the result NZ came first and second in Australia's great race....so that's how it;'s done but more into m/bikes myself...o well i guess it's the Melbourne Cup next for the Kiwi's to show you how to ride a horse...haha
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
14 Oct 2019, 08:26
#19
14 Oct 2019, 08:26#19

This apparently:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/disgraceful-bathurst-tactics-under-review-as-mclaughlin-claims-controversial-win/news-story/e6c16ec2e05cc50c44e0e544867ade98

Melbourne cup... I am totally unaware of any horses or riders be it from nz or other... I do know that Phar Lap was the greatest ever aussie horse born and bred.... lol...

actually in melbourne for conference week around the spring carnival... many beautiful fillies in town that time of year...

re Bathurst I think team mate of winner used yellow flag incident to slow the rest of the field up whilst eventual winner made up time... really though whateves... I only care about kiwis losing in rugby not anything else... trust me I was going for the kiwis in cricket world cup.... damn cheating poms scamming that win..... 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Oct 2019, 17:41
#20
14 Oct 2019, 17:41#20

Lol, bending the rules, gamesmanship...lol, what a surprise...it's motorsport. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Oct 2019, 18:32
#21
14 Oct 2019, 18:32#21

IMO not playing Italy was a negative for the ABs,in the last RWC they practiced different aspects of their game in each of the games leading up Q/F. This led to the uninformed rugby commentators seeing weaknesses that weren't their, lol. I would have liked to see them prepare for the suffocating type of game Ireland can play. Apparently they had a very hard practice game to simulate game conditions but there is no substitute for the real thing. Ireland have  not shown their best self yet & I expect they will show great improvement when they play the ABs.

I predict the ABs will beat Ireland but not playing a warm up game doesn't help.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Oct 2019, 18:52
#22
14 Oct 2019, 18:52#22
Will be interesting to see the performance of the three teams that didn't play last week due to cancelled matches and whether their perfomances are improved because of the extra few days rest or negatively affected because they're less battle-hardened.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2019, 19:26
#23
14 Oct 2019, 19:26#23

Less er ....'battle-hardened'. Hahaha what a cliché.....that's an insight, so  many commentators have made the same point. Say something original Peeper.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Oct 2019, 21:00
#24
14 Oct 2019, 21:00#24

Boks played last Tuesday? and not the firsttean..., so not that much different IMO.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2019, 21:33
#25
14 Oct 2019, 21:33#25

No doubt the Boks are  more.....er .....battle-hardened. Waaaaaahahaha!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Oct 2019, 08:39
#26
15 Oct 2019, 08:39#26

Shifty Schiff-Strzok is obviously praying for a win by the Japanese in the quarters so as to cancel out criticism of the 2015 debacle of Meyer's Springboks.  Keep praying Herr Goebbels. LMAO     

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