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Rassie Erasmus - Ahead of his time

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2018, 12:05
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17 Dec 2018, 12:05#1

Hoping this clip will help Dr Mozzzz appreciate Rassie more. No use saying Rassie has a 50% win record when we all know the Boks imp roved markedly and that other factors were involved in some extremely close losses. That 50% win ratio will improve oaks you just wait and see.


Rassie Erasmus - Ahead of his time



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Dec 2018, 16:02
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17 Dec 2018, 16:02#2
That's truly embarrassing.....and you forget the close wins. Rassie already set for an exit after a loss in QFs .....citing the need to make deeper changes in SA rugby in order to challenge....which he can only make pre the act of conception. Hence even the Rugby Nursery post is ex post facto. Fixing genetics is the only solution. Where is Jake when we need him?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Dec 2018, 17:22
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17 Dec 2018, 17:22#3

Thank heavens in Japan!!!!!!!!!!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2018, 19:19
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17 Dec 2018, 19:19#4

Well One of SA , NZ or Ireland will be out in Quarter Fvnals. So it means to get to semi finals Rassie has to beat sides well ahead of The Boks in the rankings thanks to past coaching failures etc etc.

Be assured if the Boks lose by 1 point to either Nz or Ireland in the quaters Dr Moz will be all over Rassie. Hahahahhahahahaha its all so predictable!

Come on Dr Moz how about giving Rassie a far assessment! Take a leaf out of Beeno's book!


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Dec 2018, 19:36
#5
17 Dec 2018, 19:36#5

Beeno

To expect a fair assessment from Mozart  is totally impossible,    Hs prejudice constantly result ibn BS spreading all over the show.   

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2018, 02:17
#6
18 Dec 2018, 02:17#6
Come now HasBeen let's be honest Rassie has been a huge scoop of vanilla ice cream.....just as I warned. And of course he is totally on the moz predicted script, announcing his departure after the WC QFs right on cue. Stick with moz for the real (rum and raisin) scoop.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2018, 02:20
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18 Dec 2018, 02:20#7
By the way.....'Rassie running out of time' would be a better heading.
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 Dec 2018, 02:20
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18 Dec 2018, 02:20#8

There has been nothing remotely cutting edge or advanced about the Bok game under Rassie. Absolutely zilch. He is everything the plastics proclaimed to hate. He only finds support because he is supposed to be the anti-Meyer. Well, he is, but for all the wrong reasons. We look at this embarrassing comprehension failure, and then look at the demise of South Africa. These are the minds leading the way. Scary thought. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2018, 02:43
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18 Dec 2018, 02:43#9

Lets face facts - Rassie brought a degree of optimism back into the game of rugby in SA - something Meyer and Coetzee destroyed,

Time will  tell whether in the longer term that optimism is maintained - at present no real rugby fan knows.    The situation developed where the village idiots on site must try and find fault and cover up their BS ad infinitum.

It is the same prejudiced BS only Mozart are capable of.   If BS does not cover anything - a lie will help according to them.  No Mozart it does not work.   

LMAO.        

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 Dec 2018, 03:19
#10
18 Dec 2018, 03:19#10

2017: 7W-2D-4L

2018: 7W-0D-7L

Yes, we are definitely trending upwards. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2018, 03:26
#11
18 Dec 2018, 03:26#11

No BSter

You were told not to compare the second year as a coach of one fired one to that of the first year of coaching of the new coach whose first effort had to be the repair the damage caused by his two predecessors.      

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2018, 06:56
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18 Dec 2018, 06:56#12
A 'degree of optimism' ......oh boy, that's okay then.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Dec 2018, 10:13
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18 Dec 2018, 10:13#13
“Posted by: mozart (26198 posts) Dec 18, 2018, 06:56 A 'degree of optimism' ......oh boy, that's okay then.” Reminds me of an Afrikaans expression. Wens in die een hand en kak in die ander hand. What did the optimism bring us?
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Dec 2018, 10:15
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18 Dec 2018, 10:15#14
“Posted by: clevermike (33609 posts) Dec 18, 2018, 03:26 No BSter You were told not to compare the second year as a coach....” You forgot to add: “.......because it doesn’t suit my agenda”.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2018, 11:04
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18 Dec 2018, 11:04#15

No - BSters 

It is because it amounts to statistical abuse - in which Mozart is an expert in and you two are too stupid to realize what it actually means.  When you use statistics you first of all have to make sure that conditions are the same and only then statistics are comparable.

Why the hell do I waste time with idiots - who flood he site with their moronic BS?   I should not get upset with them.   It is a tragedy that people on site have to put up with those three morons .    

        .  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Dec 2018, 13:35
#16
18 Dec 2018, 13:35#16

Dr Mozzzz you take on Rassie is more rum than reason!

The evidence of the side playing better is there for all to see.  Stick with Beeno on this one.

Being beaten by either NZ or Ireland in the quarters cannot remotely be the end of Rassies tenure provided the team keeps growing.

Rightly Rassie bemoans his few tests before the RWC. Note how the rotund Hansen has been with the wee abs 16 YEARS. 

Beeno the voice of sanity. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2018, 19:29
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18 Dec 2018, 19:29#17
Results need little justification.....failure spawns an elaborate edifice.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Dec 2018, 19:42
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18 Dec 2018, 19:42#18

Context is needed to understand results. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2018, 20:52
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18 Dec 2018, 20:52#19
Puleeze....after losing in the Quarters in 2003, Jake won the TN in 2004. Rassie seems like a nice fellow with some clever ideas.....but he is essentially a staff guy attracted to b/s jobs like Director of South African rugby. Is he better than Coetzee.....not much....but crucially the team have more faith in him and his survival. So you don't see the mega mental collapses we saw under Coetzee. As for the AB win, we are one of two teams who have a shot against them, the other being Ireland obviously....teams that have the physicality to not be overwhelmed. And against a careless AB team without Jaws, we reminded them of that. The loss in Pretoria looked similar to the loss in 2013. For the rest we struggled against a weak Pom team at home, lost to the Bargies and Wales twice. Hardly encouraging. Rassie made huge mistakes appointing Stick and making Kolisi captain....he hasn't resolved the loosie or centre situation.....and I suspect, the wing situation. Discouraging.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
18 Dec 2018, 21:52
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18 Dec 2018, 21:52#20
Rassie played a b-team against Wales in his first match, and then a B-team against England in SA for the third test once the tournament was ended as any form of a contest. 
The first test against England EOYT was close. Around 4 first choice Boks were not available due to having to play pub club rugby in England. All in the while, England made all of their test players available for the match. (No Willie Leroux, No Faff, No Mostart, No Flouw etc).
A 2nd place finish in the 4 nations, despite a disappointing loss to Argentina, and a close loss in Australia.
The weakest the Boks looked was when there were the most changes in personnel as Rassie was trying combinations and new players.Once combinations have more than 2 games to settle, there were fewer errors- and the defence and attack seemed more structured. Also once a few of the dummies like Van Staden were disposed of.

Rassie had to play an end of the year tour against easily the strongest Northern Hemisphere teams ever (Having looted coaches and players to fill gaps in the Southern Hemisphere). 

Ivan the terrible at 9(sixth choice) was useless in the first EOYT test vs England/If Faff had been playing in this match, I expect the first half dominance by the Boks may have been enough to have taken this test. 
It was a close match- and then there was the Farrell incident that the referee himself admitted after the match should have been a penalty- which would almost certainly have been converted and a win by the Boks.
France and Scotland are matches that were won.
Wales was the worst match of the season for the Boks,...
Inside centre is a problem with little to no talent to choose from, whereas loose forward is also an issue - particularly at the breakdown.
Kolisi is probably not the ideal captain, but there are limited options. Vermeulen may have been a good choice, but he made himself unavailable for half the season. Who else is there that is the current captain of their SuperXV side? 
Additionally, it is South Africa, where everything is about giving out a democratic representation to people that are not white.
Pollard and Stephanie have no experience in the open div
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2018, 23:17
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18 Dec 2018, 23:17#21
The loss to the Bargies and the loss to a terrible Aussie team away were worse in my view.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
19 Dec 2018, 02:15
#22
19 Dec 2018, 02:15#22

A brief A brief summary shows the stats could have been vastly different:

2/3 - England Test Series. Erasmus fielded a B-team in the final test of 3 match series. 

3/6 - 2nd Position in 4 Nations. 

2/4 - EOYT. Boks were very unlucky to lose the test against England. 

7/13 Total

The opening game of the season vs Wales was just a logistical balls up, that should not even be considered a test.


shows the stats could have been vastly different:

2/3 - England Test Series. Erasmus fielded a B-team in the final test of 3 match series. 

3/6 - 2nd Position in 4 Nations. 

2/4 - EOYT. Boks were very unlucky to lose the test against England. 

7/13 Total

The opening game of the season vs Wales was just a logistical balls up, that should not even be considered a test.



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
19 Dec 2018, 02:15
#23
19 Dec 2018, 02:15#23

A brief A brief summary shows the stats could have been vastly different:

2/3 - England Test Series. Erasmus fielded a B-team in the final test of 3 match series. 

3/6 - 2nd Position in 4 Nations. 

2/4 - EOYT. Boks were very unlucky to lose the test against England. 

7/13 Total

The opening game of the season vs Wales was just a logistical balls up, that should not even be considered a test.


shows the stats could have been vastly different:

2/3 - England Test Series. Erasmus fielded a B-team in the final test of 3 match series. 

3/6 - 2nd Position in 4 Nations. 

2/4 - EOYT. Boks were very unlucky to lose the test against England. 

7/13 Total

The opening game of the season vs Wales was just a logistical balls up, that should not even be considered a test.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2018, 03:14
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19 Dec 2018, 03:14#24
Or we could have lost the first test against the Poms, the away test against NZ and the test against France who effectively had it won and finished 4/10. Seven and seven probably splits the difference.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Dec 2018, 07:25
#25
19 Dec 2018, 07:25#25

Mozart

So Erasmus was useless and his teams should have lost more!!!!!!!!!   The SA rugby fans are totally stupid and you and co in your assessment of him are correct.   Amazing - but then he should drop Du Toit from the team and play Fransie at center and use Morne at flyhalf if your latest writings are anything to go by,   Alternatively move Pollard to inside Center so as to allow for the said moves - ie using one of the two Steyns to start and the other one to replace him. 

Like Ceradunce the real rugby top thinker suggested elsewhere demote Erasmus to the insignificant position of Director of Rugby and appoint preferably White or Meyer as his superior as Chief Coach  - since Erasmus is a lying coward.     

And replace Malherbe and Kitshoff at starting props and obviously keep Mostert as a physical forward who rules the roost when it comes to forming of and defending against rolling mauls.

MOZART - THE MAGNIFICIENT RUGBY EXPERT IS NEVER WRONG - SO WHY ARE WE SO FOOLISH AS TO OPPOSE HIS WONDERFUL IDEAS..            


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
19 Dec 2018, 13:09
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19 Dec 2018, 13:09#26
The All Blacks tests of 1/2 are pretty accurate as the Boks lost at home despite playing better, while they won away despite the All Blacks being better on the day. 
The French test was close, but again this was largely due to testing new combinations. When Steph Dutoit shifted back to blindside flank, the tight five was more powerful- and the game turned in the favour of SA.

The reality is the Boks played more difficult opposition this year than last year when the Boks were coached by Alister Coetzee Brendan Venter.
Tests against France at home, then Italy on the EOYT. The Boks got hammered against the All Blacks and Ireland, and the team looked totally disinterested. 
This years team tackled as their life's depended on it. This is something that can be built on, unlike Coetzee's first year in charge, or Brendan Venter in his 2nd year.
It is worth noting that over the last 3 years the Boks have had 3 coaches.Year 1 - Alister CoetzeeYear 2 - Brendan VenterYear 3- Rassie

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Dec 2018, 13:50
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19 Dec 2018, 13:50#27

Very gratifying to see Sharkbok setting out the context so well. Rassie obviously is a very smart coach and doing very well in difficult circumstances.

The kbbs always ignore context! Eg bent down under refs!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2018, 15:37
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19 Dec 2018, 15:37#28
Ah yes the context.....Rassie has lots of contexts.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Dec 2018, 19:32
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19 Dec 2018, 19:32#29

I have never comes across anybody with as many contexts as you - all based on prejudice,

TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
20 Dec 2018, 09:57
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20 Dec 2018, 09:57#30

So far ahead of his time that he already has his exit planned!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2018, 10:00
#31
20 Dec 2018, 10:00#31

BS as per normal from the worst idiot on site.   This idiot supported all the failures of the past decade so what else is to be expected!!!!    

The blank avatar is an x-ray of the brain cavity of the fool.   Nothing seen that shows thinking ability.  

TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
20 Dec 2018, 10:28
#32
20 Dec 2018, 10:28#32

All still fantasy!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2018, 12:58
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20 Dec 2018, 12:58#33

Listen dimness - you absolutely realize what the contract of Erasmus entails.    It was discussed in detail on site and as per normal the dimmest ion site try and defend their standpoint.  First omne to give up was Mozart, Pakie did not venture into the discussion - But the two dofdose persisted with the same BS they have concocted in their empty brain cavities,  

You apparently are too stupid to realize what is going on and do you know the meaning of "fantasy" - what was dealt with is factual and was converted by you to fantasy?       

TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
20 Dec 2018, 13:18
#34
20 Dec 2018, 13:18#34

Your fantasy world have completely taken over your being. Go outside your house a bit and experience something that "actually happens" (i.e real life)... I'm sure it will help!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Dec 2018, 13:32
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20 Dec 2018, 13:32#35

The blank avatar is an x-ray of the brain cavity of the fool.''

Ou Maaaaikie that avatar is not blank. Looks like the Troof has taken as his avatar a cockroach! Hahhahaahhah ahahahahahha

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2018, 15:03
#36
20 Dec 2018, 15:03#36

Beeno 

Exactly.    

There is a sickening problem on site.   Mozart started an anti - Erasmus campaign years ago lying through his teeth about Erasmus's career.   He is supported by Ceradunce and the Trooth Fairy- with occasional support by Pakie.

I think support of Erasmus is for th em equal to heresy and could end up in some form of demeaning of  Meyer and especially some of the players they still support.    If Erasmus would call up Fat Fransie and Morne to his camps - the falsified stories of those lot may disappear.     

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Dec 2018, 15:07
#37
20 Dec 2018, 15:07#37
Tokkie couldn't see the insect. This explains a lot....he has 20/200 vision.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2018, 16:31
#38
20 Dec 2018, 16:31#38

Don't care about the cockroach as a  blank spot identified as an empty brain cavity.   Is he in  competition with you in that respect?

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