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Rassie releases 8 players from Bok Squad

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
18 Sept 2018, 10:58
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18 Sept 2018, 10:58#1

Re News 24


Cape Town - The Springboks have released eight players from their Rugby Championship squad that returned from New Zealand on Sunday for Currie Cup and provincial duty this weekend. 

In addition to the group of local players released to their provinces, two overseas-based players will also return to their clubs and are available for selection for this weekend’s matches.

They are fullback Willie le Roux (Wasps) and loose forward Francois Louw (Bath). 

Although the Blue Bulls have a bye in the Currie Cup, the Pretoria outfit will be in action on Saturday in a friendly against Namibia in Windhoek. 

The following eight players have been released to their provinces this weekend: 

Golden Lions

Ross Cronje 

Blue Bulls

Marco van Staden

Embrose Papier 

Sharks

Thomas du Toit 

Western Province

Wilco Louw

Bongi Mbonambi

Sikhumbuzo Notshe

Damian Willemse

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
18 Sept 2018, 11:10
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18 Sept 2018, 11:10#2
I forgot about the fact that we'd be losing Willie later in the rugby Champs. I didn't realise we'd be losing WIllemse as well. That leaves us somewhat stumped at fullback. I think we have seen the last of Francouis Louw as well. His performances have been declining in my opinion.
This was a wasted opportunity to blood Van Staden. Also, I think the Boks are going to feel the loss of W Louw and Mbonambi. Both are pretty valuable players in my book. 
Lastly, how can a the Boks lose players to a tournament as, I'm sorry to say, insignificant, as the Currie Cup? Surely the international season overrides anything else? Or are these guys simply of no use any more? In other words, neither the first or second choice in their positions ? No man. it just makes no sense to me. Especially Willemse, Mbonabmi and W Louw. Now we have no specialist fullback! WTF? 
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
18 Sept 2018, 11:16
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18 Sept 2018, 11:16#3
Just checked the squad again. We also have only one scrumhalf left. This makes absolutely no sense. What if Faf gets injured? Am I missing something here? Its not April 1st right? 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Sept 2018, 11:31
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18 Sept 2018, 11:31#4

BB

The released players had comparatively little test time and in some cases none at all.   Erasmus has done this before.

Most of the players will be back soon in the squad.  I have little doubt it applies to Le Roux as well.   I do not think Louw will be back - a more likely move would be to bring Coetzee into the squad.   

I have more worries about the number 12 position.  Despite the hype campaign of Mozart and co - the answer is not really Esterhuizen.   I believe the better option would have been Serfontein - but he is also out injured.  I would think Willemse is a better option as inside center  than Esterhuizen as well.   There other cult hero is Pollard - but his defense has been very iffy this year.   I would for that reason rather see him at flyhalf, where there are better covering than further out.    

By the way playing Jantjies and Pollard next to each other would create another defensive sieve par excellence.   

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Sept 2018, 11:43
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18 Sept 2018, 11:43#5
“Lastly, how can a the Boks lose players to a tournament as, I'm sorry to say, insignificant, as the Currie Cup? Surely the international season overrides anything else? Or are these guys simply of no use any more? In other words, neither the first or second choice in their positions? No man.” From World Rugby Regulation 9. (ii) Unless Council approves otherwise the Southern Hemisphere Release Period shall operate each year. It shall commence on the first weekend of August and continue for the next eight consecutive weekends. Players shall be released prior to the Southern Hemisphere Release Period in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 9.9. First weekend of August 2018 started on Friday 3rd of August. The eighth weekend from there ends on Sunday 23rd of September. The next round of the RC is on 29 September.
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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
18 Sept 2018, 11:52
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18 Sept 2018, 11:52#6
For the Currie Cup lads, it's just to get some game time into their legs, it's fair enough - I'm hoping to see Van Staden get more game time this RC, really curious to see what he can bring 
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 Sept 2018, 12:29
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18 Sept 2018, 12:29#7

Willie is going to be a big loss. We didn't see it very much against New Zealand, but he directs most of our attacking ball. He is the playmaker. 

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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
18 Sept 2018, 12:34
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18 Sept 2018, 12:34#8

I wonder who will replace him at fullback, Kolbe? Willemse?

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 Sept 2018, 12:48
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18 Sept 2018, 12:48#9

I don't know. Finding a fullback is one thing, finding someone who can replicate what he does is going to be incredibly difficult. We need to use more ball against New Zealand, and we cannot do that without Willie. I hate to say this, but right now, without Willie, I'd contemplate Jantjies at 10 with Esterhuizen at 12. We'll need more from our centres. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Sept 2018, 14:23
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18 Sept 2018, 14:23#10
Wilco was a rock in three crucial scrums near our line at the end of the game, when NZ was exerting maximum pressure. My guess is he is being released to get a bit more game time...same goes for Bongi and a few others.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Sept 2018, 22:30
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18 Sept 2018, 22:30#11
Moz look out we agree on a player - Wilco!!!!!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Sept 2018, 23:15
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18 Sept 2018, 23:15#12
Watch out the San Andreas fault!
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
18 Sept 2018, 23:33
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18 Sept 2018, 23:33#13
Hopefully, some of the players will be returned after playing for their clubs over the weekend. 
Although it seems pretty pointless having a player go to England while the rest of the team are preparing in SA for the next test match.
Hopefully, Willie Leroux will be on the next flight after the weekend. 
They can keep Francious Louw, he has been useless this season. That knock on last week was pathetic- and it was fortunate that it did not lead to the Boks losing. 
No one else made such a basic error for the Boks


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Sept 2018, 00:17
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19 Sept 2018, 00:17#14
Lots of comment on the Louw knock on.....but again it's not that simple. Louw is standing right next to Stephanie with his hands down.....Stephanie has his hands in a receiver position....and continues to have his hands up until the ball is 70% of the way from Faf to Louw. He then abruptly pulls his hands down and at the last second Louw realizes the ball is coming (incorrectly) to him. For the rest he was aggressive, active and crucially avoided a penalty while harrasing the ABs. In the next move after the ABs got the scrum Louw's speed off the line put pressure on the AB receiver who knocked the ball. Pesky details, but it's nice to get them right. That said Louw's form has been patchy and his stakes have certainly dropped....it's hard to see him making the WC.
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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
19 Sept 2018, 00:35
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19 Sept 2018, 00:35#15
Louw should have seen the angle of the pass, the same way that Stephanie must have before allowing the ball to float past. This is schoolboy stuff. The wrong person feigns to catch and realizes just before that someone else is the intended recipient- or just in a better position. 
The week before Louw was on a Sunday stroll near ever try that was scored by Australia, and his fetching contribution has been zilch.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Sept 2018, 03:13
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19 Sept 2018, 03:13#16
Let's stick to this test. A pod support member should have realized from the angle of the ball it was meant for him.....a bit harsh. Face it Stephanie was expecting the ball.....and Faf should have passed it to him.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Sept 2018, 03:25
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19 Sept 2018, 03:25#17

BS again.   Louw knocked on a pass where he is in a perfect position to receive the ball and an excuse must be found for the knock-on by Louw.    So blame Du Toit for it - normal Mozart BS.   

How weird can things get here on site??????????????????

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Sept 2018, 03:25
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19 Sept 2018, 03:25#18

BS again.   Louw knocked on a pass where he is in a perfect position to receive the ball and an excuse must be found for the knock-on by Louw.    So blame Du Toit for it - normal Mozart BS.   

How weird can things get here on site??????????????????

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Sept 2018, 03:26
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19 Sept 2018, 03:26#19

BS again.   Louw knocked on a pass where he is in a perfect position to receive the ball and an excuse must be found for the knock-on by Louw.    So blame Du Toit for it - normal Mozart BS.   

How weird can things get here on site??????????????????

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Sept 2018, 05:28
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19 Sept 2018, 05:28#20
Actually I thought I 'blamed' Faf for it.....but if you think it was Stephanie be my guest.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Sept 2018, 11:36
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19 Sept 2018, 11:36#21

This is really another distortion to protect the routine under-performing Louw.  If Mozart does not blame Du Toit for the missed catch by Louw - why did he bring him into the situation.

Then as to De Klerk - it was an accurate pass that clearly went to Louw and should have been easily caught by any recipient.  So why mention both De Klerk and Du Toit is a clear attempt to mislead the members of site on what really happened and protect Louw fom criticism.

I musts say I have read hilarious posts by you - the ab ove one takes the cake for blatant dishonesty.         

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