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Rassie's Alignment Squad

Started by CleanCut18 REPLIES690 VIEWS· 05 Apr 2018, 08:30
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Apr 2018, 08:30
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05 Apr 2018, 08:30#1


The first and second "alignment" squad combined:

 

FORWARDS


Prop

Lizo Gqoboka, Trevor Nyakane, Ruan Dreyer, Steven Kitshoff, Wilco Louw, Frans Malherbe


Hooker

Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi


Lock

RG Snyman, Jason Jenkins, Lood de Jager, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Franco Mostert


Loose Forward

Roelof Smit, Cyle Brink, Nizaam Carr, Siya Kolisi, Sikumbuzo Notshe, Cobus Wiese, Warren Whiteley


BACKS


Scrum Half
Embrose Papier 

Flyhalf
Handré Pollard, Elton Jantjies, Damian Willemse 

Center
Jesse Kriel, Damian de Allende, Lionel Mapoe

Wing
Travis Ismaiel, Ruan Combrinck, Aphiwe Dyantyi

Full Back
Warrick Gelant, Andries Coetzee

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Apr 2018, 08:38
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05 Apr 2018, 08:38#2

I see Rassie doesn't favour ... Jaco Kriel, Kwagga Smith, Harold Vorster or Rohan Janse van Rensburg.

No Ross Cronje either ... not that I rate him as anything special.

The Lions props that should have been invited is without doubt ... van Rooyen and Dylan Smith.

I wonder if he even knows who the better players are in each team?

 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2018, 08:38
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05 Apr 2018, 08:38#3

CC

I am very disappointed that Rohan and Vorster has not been included,   There are a lot of player who are sub-standard and most o those are quota selections.    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2018, 08:38
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05 Apr 2018, 08:38#4

CC

I am very disappointed that Rohan and Vorster has not been included,   There are a lot of player who are sub-standard and most o those are quota selections.    

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Apr 2018, 08:52
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05 Apr 2018, 08:52#5

These are a selection of his favourites from 3 of our SR franchises.

I presume we'll be seeing an assortment from the Sharks and Cheetahs shortly.

... and then ... the one I'm most curious about ... our boys playing abroad.

Will we see Bismarck and Vermeulen making their return to the Bok mix? Who else will be included? Frans Steyn ... Morne Steyn ... Ruan Pienaar ... Franscois Louw???

Get on with it already ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2018, 09:10
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05 Apr 2018, 09:10#6

CC

You left out Le Roux from the foreign club players list,   He is likely the only club player making it into the squad - the other players you actually mention has even playing for their clubs being sub-standard and some of them are too old to make the 2019 WC anyway,  

Mozart would love to see all these oldies in the squad - but nobody else would.  Morne, Fat Fransie, Ruan Pienaar and Flo -  you must be kidding!!!!

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Apr 2018, 09:27
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05 Apr 2018, 09:27#7

Rassie's been visiting with players abroad. He clearly has an idea of who he wants in the mix.

Le Roux is probably one of them.

Who else?

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
05 Apr 2018, 09:27
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05 Apr 2018, 09:27#8
Mike, I reckon CC mentioned them tongue in cheek? That said, I am pretty disappointed iwith many of the players in the alignment squad. For example, WTF is Dreyer doing there? Carr, Notshe, Jantjies, Gqoboka just quotas. 
I am glad to see, Galant, Willemse, Combrink and Papier getting noticed. Lock, flyhalf, wing , fullback all look pretty solid.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2018, 10:16
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05 Apr 2018, 10:16#9

Bluebok

I think some of the attendees was only there for show and those include Dreyer and Jantjies.  They had their chances and failed and I doubt whether they would get further chances,   They are in competition with real players who can perform  and for he first time in years we have  reasonable picks for instance at flyhalf,     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2018, 15:20
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05 Apr 2018, 15:20#10


What is going to happen when Erasmus call up layers for the third alignment programme?

I think the following may be amongst the Sharks players called up:

Sharks Players

Tendai Mtawarira, Thomas du Toit, Akker van der Merwe, Jean Luc-du Preez, Dan du Preez, Louis Schreuder, Robert du Preez, Andre Esterhuizen, Mapimipi and Nkosi.

Cheetahs Players

Venter, Mohoje, Cassiem

Foreign Club players

I do not think that as a rule any over the age of 30 players will be called up since it would be counter-productive from the point of view of team building for the 2019  WC.   Duds will also be out.

Under the circumstances here may be only a few players called up and those can include the following:-

Le Roux, Marcel Coetzee, maybe Vermeulen (unlikely). Labuschagne, Ackerman, Goosen  

Lets see how near to the mark am I.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Apr 2018, 15:30
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05 Apr 2018, 15:30#11
Why would anybody call up Goosen and Liggies. You are a funny guy DCup.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2018, 15:52
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05 Apr 2018, 15:52#12

When I was doing the list I was thinking about the fact that Rassie rates thinking players and not duds – he leaves that to dud coaches like Meyer and Vermeulen.

Goosen was in 2017 the French club player of the year and then had a fall-out with his club and has not played since that time.   However, he is so highly rated in France that Montpellier is prepared to pay R20 million to Racing Metro to get him released so they can employ him.

Labuschagne is most likely the only SA loosie that has ever been go od in ball protection and recovery – most other loosies have yet to discover what that phrase means.   He is probably also a loosie who can read the game better than most others.

Problem is you will not understand anything about thinking payers – since you routinely support the selection of dud players.   


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Apr 2018, 19:26
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05 Apr 2018, 19:26#13

Dreyer again LOLZzzz! I suppose there will be enough players for 3 to squads, so lots of dry wood to cut, but still, Dryer???

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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
05 Apr 2018, 21:07
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05 Apr 2018, 21:07#14

Don't be surprise if Rassie selects Adrian Strauss. Rassie worked with Adrian for quite a while at Superrugby level and it seems Adrian is again in top form. His leadership may count in his favour if it turns out that Whiteley is a bit too light in the #8 position, or Etzebeth is outplayed by any of quite a few contenders (Mostert, Lood or Snyman) with PSDT the other lock (PSDT is not fast enough as a flank).

If Rassie can get Vermeulen to fire, he will be my choice as eightman. 

I honestly think Adrian is a better leader than Eben Etzebeth.

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2018, 23:25
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05 Apr 2018, 23:25#15

I don't think Strauss will play international rugby again and his age count also against him.   They would rather use the bench for a quota selection;

I think the no 8 position would be filled by Jean-Luc du Preez or Marcel Coetzee and the 7 by one of the two mentioned.   That is if Coetzee is fit to play again.  

Blikkies - my problem is that a 32 year-old starting to fire after two years of questionable performances is near to zero,

You must be careful - even just mentioning that Etzebeth could be outplayed will give Mozart a seizure.   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,256 posts
06 Apr 2018, 03:22
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06 Apr 2018, 03:22#16
How long will it take to get over the d isalignment of Coetzee?
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
06 Apr 2018, 08:19
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06 Apr 2018, 08:19#17
Blikkies, what exactly has Strauss achieved as a captain? He captained the Boks to arguably their worst year ever. Ditto the Bulls to their worst year since around 2003. And as captain of the Cheetahs the teams performance was also completely unremarkable. I have never seen anything from him that exudes any sort of great leadership quality. Actually, he seems to perform best without the added responsibility of being captain. His performance so far in Super Rugby this year is a case in point. I like him, and think he does deserve to play for the Boks, but as Mike has mentioned, his age, skin colour and the fact that he retired from international rugby, will surely all but exclude him.  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
06 Apr 2018, 08:36
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06 Apr 2018, 08:36#18
SB, that is a good question. However, a great coach can turn a team around almost immediately. White with the Boks in 2004. Meyer with the Bulls. Jones with England. It is often just as much a mental shift within a team, as it is good coaching that suddenly makes them effec tive. 
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
06 Apr 2018, 08:39
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06 Apr 2018, 08:39#19

Bluebok, I was not aware that he retired from international rugby. If that is the case then there is nothing further to discus. 

However, in principle, form should be the only denominator and should be independent of age.

I reject any form of non-merit selection and like Saffex, will only list my best players.

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