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Rassie will be involved in every Bok decision

Started by Saffolk 13 REPLIES575 VIEWS· 26 Jan 2020, 00:36
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Jan 2020, 00:36
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26 Jan 2020, 00:36#1
Jacques Nienaber's rise to the Springbok coaching job was finally confirmed on Friday afternoon, but departing World Cup-winning coach Rassie Erasmus left no doubt that he would still be involved in every decision affecting the Springbok team. Erasmus stepped back to return to the Director of Rugby position he was originally appointed in, with Nienaber, who has been his trusted lieutenant and Springbok defence coach for the past few years, stepping in to take over the coaching reins. But while it may seem strange as Nienaber has never been a head coach at any level, it was clear Erasmus wanted someone he could trust to continue the continuity that was built up on the way to the World Cup win. Erasmus stepped in when Allister Coetzee stepped down as Bok coach and in 18 months turned the Boks into World Champions. In confirming the other changes, Matt Proudfoot's departure to join Eddie Jones in England means Deon Davids, the former Isuzu Southern Kings coach, will take over the forwards, while Irishman Felix Jones will continue as a consultant. Daan Human, the Bulls scrum coach, will also be a consultant for the Boks during the coming season. But Erasmus made it clear what his role will be in the near future and that he will be very much part of the Bok set-up for the next few seasons while Nienaber will be the face of the team. STILL BE IN THE COACH'S BOX "Everyone knows when I was appointed as Director of Rugby a few years ago it was to work with the coaches and different departments. When Allister moved on then the focus was solely the Springbok team and the World Cup. We all realised it was impossible to do both jobs and by appointing a head coach now it will free up myself now to be a little bit more strategic. "When I mean strategic, I am definitely not going to have an admin job where I sit in the office. If I can give you an example. My role for example with the Junior Springboks, it wouldn't be to help them win, that would be the job of the Junior Springbok coach. My job would be for the Junior Springboks to be holistically developed so when they come out on the other side of the Junior Springbok campaign, they must be better equipped to be better rugby players. "In every department I know a bit about the technical stuff, but it would be more to make sure the systems we have serve what we want to achieve on the field and those systems are aligned so that we don't only win the World Cup every 12 years. "Obviously my responsibility there with the Springboks will be for them to win. So yes, having a guy like Jacques there with the Springboks – I will still be part of the management team and be in the coach's box when we play. I will be accountable if we don't win. I will be part of the team selection when we select the team but having him there working more on the day to day things and giving me more time to focus on the strategic things, that was the thinking behind the whole system." Nienaber said his appointment was to continue the same mantra that Erasmus had brought to the squad in the lead-up to the World Cup. "The main thing for us is continuity and continuity for me will be to drive the goals we drew up in 2018 when we came over to the Springboks. It will be for us to win and keep on winning consistently. But with winning the big thing will be to focus on transformation, to focus on creating squad depth and to focus on giving experience to players to fill a pipeline which will continuously drive getting good results for the Springboks," he added.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
26 Jan 2020, 00:47
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26 Jan 2020, 00:47#2
It could be like having 2 Rassies, or 1.75 Rassies. They are best friends so one is an extension of the other.
The strongest point for the Boks has been defence which is Jaques primary role.
Just need an attack coach. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Jan 2020, 00:54
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26 Jan 2020, 00:54#3
Rassie will still pull all the strings, Nienaber will be the face of the Boks. When it counts Rassie will be there, he won’t be there for press conferences, the behind the scenes non coaching bits etc
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
26 Jan 2020, 03:44
#4
26 Jan 2020, 03:44#4


Ek is Rassie

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Jan 2020, 18:04
#5
26 Jan 2020, 18:04#5

Erasmus does not like the media roll attached to coaching anyway.    

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
26 Jan 2020, 18:27
#6
26 Jan 2020, 18:27#6

Hopefully, their relationship will survive the new setup and that they will be able to work wonders with the talent available.

All the best guys.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Jan 2020, 18:56
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26 Jan 2020, 18:56#7

They have been working together for the best part of 20 years - so I cannot see anything changing  their relationship at all.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
26 Jan 2020, 22:18
#8
26 Jan 2020, 22:18#8
Rassie for president of South Africa...  Imagine he was involved in every decision in South Africa....
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Jan 2020, 22:53
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26 Jan 2020, 22:53#9
Only the corrupt strives to be President of SA,    
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
26 Jan 2020, 23:07
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26 Jan 2020, 23:07#10

It's dumb to change a winning formula.....an oldie but a goodie ...."If it ain't broke don't fix it."

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
27 Jan 2020, 07:24
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27 Jan 2020, 07:24#11

Rassie's primary function will be to "holistically develop" the juniors. In other words, he'll be focusing on promoting the quota as best he can. To get as many untalented black faces into the mix ... as he did with the Goats.

I see no mention of Stick. I presume Jones is his replacement? Has it finally dawned on Rassie that Stick was no more than an incompetent gravy trainer?

He was given a crack at it under Coetzee ... and then got fired ... only to confirm his idiocy under Rassie a year later.

Davids it seems is the next local chump to receive a handout at test level.

It's been obvious right from the start that Rassie will call all the shots. 

It's going to be an interesting year


  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jan 2020, 07:57
#12
27 Jan 2020, 07:57#12

CC

Stick is still an Assistant Coach  and Jones will not be in SA at all - he will be stationed in Ireland.  His function is to monitor SA players playing club rugby in the NH and liaise with them as part of the coaching set up,  Will only come to SA when training camps and tests are to be played,  Another of Erasmus assistants from Munster as was Nienaber,

Stick has a very specific role and that is training  players to get into positions to attack and defend  quickly enough like applies to Sevens Rugby, as well as advancing of skills to retain ball possession and no lose it by poor passing and knocking on.   That was what he did successfully in the WC and that is what his future function remains.to be.  One of he reasons why the Springboks won the WC. 

I do not care a hell who plays as long as the player is operating well within the team structure and the team wins - in essence when a player is selected on merit.

As to a shortcoming in the squad - namely an attack coach - I think Jones will fulfil  that role as well.  I think Davids is there for training purposes,  He is not a fixture - the real forwards coach will be Daan Human,  If Davids fail he will go the same way as a lot of players did when dropped by Erasmus from the squad - like happened to many players Erasmus tried out in tests in 2018 and were not involved in 2019 - as is likely to happen to Jantjies in future,

Have no problem with the coaching set-up - at least Meyer and Coetzee is not around to bugger up everything.   Incidentally the experts discussing the cricket fiasco yesterday repeatedly referred to what Erasmus did to get the team from disastrous performances in 2014 to 2017 to become the WC winners,  They want the same approach followed in cricket.  Smith and Boucher also referred to that factor in the past.   

       

       

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Jan 2020, 11:39
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27 Jan 2020, 11:39#13
Davids did a good job with the Kings when he had them. He had nothing to work with but got them playing a nice brand of attacking rugby which lead to a win or two that year in Super rugby He impressed me so no doubt will add value to the coaching team
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
27 Jan 2020, 12:15
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27 Jan 2020, 12:15#14

Well, for one I think it is a step in the right direction now that we have a directory and a really good group of coaches that are working together. I don't mind Stick, just shows you how valuable a person can be if they are used towards their strengths. I don't think Coetzee had a clue in how to manage other coaches. So glad that cockroach is gone. 

Hopefully they can fine tune the Junior Boks and make sure that we look after you talent in SA. 

Especially now that a lot of unions have gotten rid of all those professional contracts that gave to almost every rugby club player. 

The true test of their skill will be over the next couple of years leading to the Lions tour. SA always seem to dip after they win the World Cup given that all of the players go and take up big contracts abroad. 

Lets hope 2020 can be a fantastic year and perhaps another Championship trophy followed by a grand slam at the end of the year

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