RE: Can there be peace on the site = please

here has been a long list of problems in refereeing that was started By the NZ Head or Refereeing for Sanzar when hes ent en e-mail to NZ Aussie referees topunish SA teams so as to prevented them them from winning matches.   Unfortunately the guy involved was th father of Bryce Lawrence.  He unfortunately made a mistake andxx'd the e-mail to SA Rugby.   That was to my mind a totally illegal situation and Sanzar had to face  storm about the issue.   In the end a peace agreement of sorts were reached, 

I have not seen a single comment denying that it happened and they did not offer any suggestions that L:awrence was correct in what he did.    Thre was some suppor for hiss on after the 2011 disaster by Bryce Lawrence  leaving his removal from the test panel and promotion afterwards by NZ rugby - Sasue wri\ote at the time that there were serious reservations about the latter expressed wiely in NZ.

Since then the issue of reffing was normally under control and only sputtering from time to time.    It is unfortunate that the matter reared its ugly head again and the discussions on this site ha been nasty and  in some respects vicious,   Is it necessary to make the accusations about New Zealanders and South Africans in general?   There are good and bad people in every country in the world and certainly also in SA and New Zealand.   Why generalize and attack nations unreasonably for remarks and actions by a few bad apples and that everybody in our respective nations are bad - largely based on fictional notions by a few.

Please can we not have reasonable discussions without generalizing and making out that all people from NZ and SA are bad.   Please can we not forget about what happened over the last three weeks insofar as refereeing is concerned.   I am sure that there will be a reasonable solution of the situation by Sanzaar - who dealt with  or is  dealing with with the matters raised.

My final plea - can we not have pea ce on the site and differ from each other on a civil basis?     .   .        

That's rich ... coming from you.

How many times has a plea been directed at you?

How many times have you ignored it?

Now you wanna lecture us?

Rather just be quiet.

Yeah...we need the peace pipe...not the one Saffex and Traditionalist smokes though

https://youtu.be/qR9respsyRE

Ooooh yes, Mike. Kudo's to you for trying to bring peace to this site. You are such an inspiration to us all. We all love you, Mike. So sad to know that your good intentions will fall on deaf ears ... blah, blah, blah ...

Blow it out your ass, Cloudy.

I doubt anyone gives a toss about your opinion. 

To all the NZders on this site. I'm glad you are here and hope none of you leave...and that goes for all our posters. The more the merrier...even you Trad.

Huh?

Why on earth would I go to a shithole like New Zealand? It's a dead meaningless country covered in sheep shit. What is it? 200 sheep to every man ... and besides one can't differentiate between the sexes there. All of you have the same flat faced ape look about you.

No thanks. 

Hearing aids? What are you on about? Please tell me that that's not you best attempt at annoying me. Say it's not so.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha.

Yeah...we need the peace pipe...not the one Saffex and Traditionalist smokes though

On the spot. SA rugby people must keep believing that there is stuff like a quota policy, SA rugby powerhouse, refs not favouring SA sides etc

Any substance or absence of substance that causes the suspension of these fantasies must be prohibited.

What a mean spirited slob wee cc can be at times. Mentally not old enough to smoke any pipe!!!

Fair enough Moz ,I dunno why wee Mikey didnt think that his clumsy attempts at trolling wouldnt lead to anything but acrimony .A bit of banter is fine  when you both have a more or less equal footing like after the 2nd ABS vs Boks game last year to go on about the opposition copping a drubbing is just rubbing someones nose in it.No fun at all.

Ka Mate I reckon theres one thing we can all agree on ,we all hate the arrogant Poms when we play the bastards !

Yeah Bro I am loathe to tar 'em all with the same brush ,mostly the trio of twats .[You know who you are ]  with Mikey seemingly looking for a spot of plank-warming in reserve.

Fair suck of the sav ou Makkie you dont hold out an olive branch with a snake hanging off it .As in a heading asking for peace and the very first sentence something about some horror wee Bryce visited upon you.

But seeing as how its you I will take it for what I think you intended ? Just no more dumb-butt attempts at trolling ,its not exactly banter now is it ?

"Why on earth would I go to a shithole like New Zealand? It's a dead meaningless country covered in sheep shit. What is it? 200 sheep to every man ... and besides one can't differentiate between the sexes there. All of you have the same flat faced ape look about you."

Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Have to admit, that bloody cracked me up!!!

In the spirit of peace, lets have some comeback put downs aimed at South Africa.

I bet WarHag has a gem or two waiting to be unveiled.

Maybe good to laugh at ourselves a bit...no?

Still clambering for attention huh?

Kak Maat

Umm...visual imagery. Rather than clamoring for attention, i used clambering since it nicely illustrates how the Milkman is climbing and scrambling all over this board and everyone on it for some attention. Especially me.

Yarpy Gate

Ka Mate

Your comments above are rank stupidity and absolute BS.   I respect most of the NZ members =- decent guys and not involved in any really nasty comments  even when defending NZ.

However, for you I have no respect - same as the Mozart case - and you can go of site and take your yarpie BS with you.   

You are a coward anyway - you would not rep eat that saying in public in SA - because you will lad in hospital if you do.      

moola 

That e-mail was discussed on this site many times - maybe before you became a site member - and could be obtained by the members who goes back on site. discussions.  I generally do not do that - so lets hope somebody can find it.   

However, rest assured it did happen and the resultant storm afterwards did happen too.   However - it is apparently still a problem in refereeing perspective insofar as SA members are concerned.       

Cloudy, it would be a pity if you go, but if the insults upset you that much, it might be better to take a break for a while. I don't like any of the harsh insults and it's a real shame that it escalated so much of late, but things will cool down again. Sometimes it's good to get a rude opinion.

Worrieds about F@ckers like you - I do not lower myself to that level.   So FO.

Ja Ka Mate, and you are a real d!ck.

BTW Are you still maintaining that Moz did not send you a photo of his car?

Ka Mate is right about one thing there Mikey,the deafening silence from some where cc and beandick are concerned ,If us Kiwis were to use even a fraction of the vile garbage they direct at us we would never hear the end of it .

Cloudy is plummy and cleam clunt sucking up to each other ? No surprises there as cc spent an inordinate amount of time pondering what plummy did with his winkie and what he stuck up his butt when he first started posting .

Mikey you know d amn well you dont have the right to tell others to leave,fuck me sideways I dont even say that to beandork.

Yes Clouds, haven't had a smoke in more than 2 months, thanks for asking.

BTW, please don't just leave, rather just take a break if things arent fun anymore. You still have allot of friends on here.

Cloudy...I've got respect for you...standing up to these dolts with little else between their heads...bullies yeah but the internet impressions are easy to deceive...perhaps their fathers never showed them them how to respect a woman...perhaps the schools they went to had bad discipline and control...heeby jeebers it certainly sounds like it...perhaps they cannot come to terms with the deterioration of manhood today...it's nothing to do with brutal strength but a strong mind, and morality, manners and dignity.

Yeah, we all are imperfect but fundamental values are so lacking in youth today... my dad , used to say that men in France and it's not a dab at Frenchmen because it was universal( and his mother was French) were painting their nails before the war...yeah manliness is not macho but a pair of boxing gloves sure helps to get rid of the boasting talk.

Wardad

I lost my coo; - Ka mate is a SA person prepared to sell js cpimtyu dowm the darin and his attack on anuthinmg relating to SA is downright low/.    He is in fact pretending to ve drom NZ - but he is not,   I do not like that kind of approach from people of any country and be respected fro doing that.   

Cloudy

I agree with you about decency and what your father say about it.   I was borne and grew up on for SA is an ancient farm.   The first person of the relecvant surname arrived in SA and was married to a woman by the name of Pieternella Meerhif, whose mother was brought up in the Van Riebeeck household - called Eva of the Goringhaikona -  a lduaghter of a local tribal chieftain - so my ancestry was in fact here before Van Riebeeck arrived in SA.in 1652. 

The main buildings on the farm was all constructed prior to 1800 and as is the case in the Southern Cape  the old families in SA and those owning farms like that had wide community respect.

My parents were liberal in their approach and did much to assist in community welfare -especially in the field of education and community health.

The problem with that kind of life was a very protected social environment where as children we grew up without any idea about what is going on between people outside of the family and the  limited number of people belonging to the social set in which  my parents functioned.  

Not a good environment without any idea what the real world is like and that cause a major disadvantage for me in the end.   I developed a number of very bad habits afterwards and at times am ashamed about it.      

The levels of cringe are unbearable!

Dignity you say Seb?

Dignity indeed!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling

Dear Ol' Maaikie...I certainly was not referring to you...Mr Municipality...you are a man of good heart and your efforts to lift a deprived community is valiant...far more than I have done or anybody else here, I surmise but a little indiscretion sometimes like we all do except your'e not a rugby lover but a fanatic, which I'm not with anything...fishing comes close but as I get older I try to balance my life...I enjoy variation and the spices of life.

Anyway have we all driven you to drink??? By that I cannot make head or tails of this....Bahahahaha

"I lost my coo; - Ka mate is a SA person prepared to sell js cpimtyu dowm the darin and his attack on anuthinmg relating to SA is downright low/.    He is in fact pretending to ve drom NZ -"

@ Beeno and CC

Please tell when the next Bash The Shire wagon is leaving.

I know tickets for that ride sell out fast since everybody on here is always gagging for some Kiwi bashing.

Think we can stop at a bookshop on the way?

Need to pick some reading material on how to treat psuedo feminists in our new post modernist neo liberal fascist world...

Yeah, we can't stand women having opinions.

That's why we're always trying to shut WarHag up.

Maaik, I also sometimes get the feeling that Ka Mate might be a South African pretending to be a Kiwi, but other times again, not so much so. He does however have quite a chip on his shoulder...can make a fortune selling the lumber.