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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Expand Width of a Rugby Field by 20% to bring the skilful (smaller) player back into the game

Started by sharkbok16 REPLIES1,299 VIEWS· 09 May 2018, 01:25
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
09 May 2018, 01:25
#1
09 May 2018, 01:25#1

7's rugby has more skill because there is more space. This gives skilful players more time and options to work with.

In the professional era of 15 man rugby, forwards are much fitter. This along with improved defences means less space on the field. 

Backline players now days are much bigger but less skilful. (at least compared to the likes of Christian Cullen, Jeff Wilson, Breyton Paulse etc). 

If the width of a rugby player was increased by 20% it could improve the quality of rugby. 

This would require a more skilful player that can use space, and with less emphasis on bulk wrestling crash ball donkeys. There will be less emphasis on dominating the advantage line with crash ball, allowing more attacking options .

Having fewer bench players for forwards is also an option- to ensure that space opens up as players tire more. 

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This is a better option than reducing the number of players in the team (or increasing like New Zealanders do....)


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 May 2018, 02:26
#2
09 May 2018, 02:26#2
Or reduce the players to 12....no fullback, the blindside wing covering the position and just one loose forward, effectively just an 8th man. Probably easier to do given so many famous grounds are land-locked. But I fundamentally concur there are just too many bodies per square metre for the game to be the open contest that would attract more fans.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
09 May 2018, 11:21
#3
09 May 2018, 11:21#3

Wont happen what with the number of grounds that a barely squeezing in the proper dimensions as it is.

Has merit though .

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 May 2018, 11:33
#4
09 May 2018, 11:33#4


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 May 2018, 11:47
#5
09 May 2018, 11:47#5

The old rule of the si de going forward could be recalled as it tied in the loose forwards.

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
09 May 2018, 11:51
#6
09 May 2018, 11:51#6

Make the ruck and maul a free for all. Bring back rucking and do away with some of the rolling away laws. 

The more "piggies" rooting away in the tackle area, the more room for the graceful backs to glide and sweep through.

With the newer laws and rugby league defences the field is a wall. 

This weekend I saw examples of rucks consisting of just a scrumhalf, tackled and tackler. 

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
09 May 2018, 13:34
#7
09 May 2018, 13:34#7

The NH bought in those ruck laws to try and make themselves more competitive.Its eye glazingly dullllll but they like it .

Maybe the old rules might work to free things up [ I can still feel those sprig marks on my back I reckon!] but its too nasty for corporate sponsors and Mums wont let their wee darlings play .

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2018, 11:41
#8
10 May 2018, 11:41#8

@ Xavi

Sounds like someone has good memories of taking as many steps as possible on someone's back while rucking over the ball.

I know i do.

They used to roll away pretty sharpish back then.


KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
10 May 2018, 12:17
#9
10 May 2018, 12:17#9
Whingeing Yarpies trying to change the laws of the game because they're always losing.
Go ahead and widen your pitches and play your own version of the game but there's no backline talent shortage in New Zealand. Just because you Yarpies have no talented smaller backs like Damian McKenzie, Milner-Skudder or Laumape doesn't mean we have to change the laws of the game, it just means you need to coach your kids better or else start importing from countries that do have talent.
XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
10 May 2018, 14:29
#10
10 May 2018, 14:29#10

@Plum...

Hah , I wish! Been on the recieving end a few times though. 

Playing on the wing once and got lost in the side of a maul which had sprung up and rudely interfered with my chaffing the wives on the touch side. Result was I ended up over the ball when it collapsed to the (I can only describe as exultant JOY) of the opposition scrumhalf.

Studs all up and down my back and side. Ruffled my hair as well.

I'm also surprised forwards have any memories!


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
10 May 2018, 14:48
#11
10 May 2018, 14:48#11

Kamate- Why do you even use this website?  You have never got anything positive to say.  

The All Blacks may well be good, but you are just a loser fanboy going from website to website trying to take credit. I doubt you have ever been good at anything - judging on how you conduct yourself with a constant negative nationalist agenda- that you are provoking other people to retaliate.- which is unfortunate as it is offensive for the other New Zealand posters.

 

KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
10 May 2018, 15:04
#12
10 May 2018, 15:04#12
Can't argue your case so you resort to name-calling and telling the other guy to go away, and you can't even get the other guy's name right!
Typical Yarpie mentality.
Fact is, the size of the field is just fine as it is. I have given you examples of skilful NZ players who demonstrate that skill within the current boundaries of the field. You said yourself in the OP that you want more space so that skilful players get more time and space. I'm saying they're not very skilful players if they need more time and space and there are plenty of talented players out there who show their skills on the rugby field in it's current proportions.
Now do you have a counter argument or are you just going to cry and tell me to go away?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 May 2018, 15:19
#13
10 May 2018, 15:19#13
So you are saying Mckenzie wouldn't be an even more devastating player and show his skills even more if he had more space....that's certainly a novel view.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
10 May 2018, 15:39
#14
10 May 2018, 15:39#14
@Cloudy, I have corrected the name. 
There is a difference between banter and constant negativity. What happens is someone like Kamate is here with his nationalistic supremacist dogma. 
His comments always seem to explain everything by nationality. He is so far up his own arse, that he wants people to congratulate him for sitting on the couch and being a fanboy cheerleader. 
He ends up causing other people to retaliate with nationalist generalisations and negative stereotypes- and their responses become offensive to  New Zealand.
Do you see many people supporting Beeno's nationalist rants about New Zealand?

@K*ntmate- The 7 backline of South Africa has lots of skills. In 15 man rugby, we don't produce many skilful backs that weigh over 100 KG- but the 7's has plenty of skill 
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
10 May 2018, 15:41
#15
10 May 2018, 15:41#15
I see. M aybe you should stick to 7s then?
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
10 May 2018, 18:13
#16
10 May 2018, 18:13#16

SA quota players are too small to  play 7s code. They will still be too small to play 15 rugby on a 20pc larger field.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
10 May 2018, 21:21
#17
10 May 2018, 21:21#17

Thanks for that valuable input theTraditionalist.


@cloudy, it self-perpetuates. The nutters on either side are usually the cause. 

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