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recent referee and TMO controversies in SA

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
11 Apr 2014, 07:58
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11 Apr 2014, 07:58#1

Crusaders boss Todd Blackadder was left confused by a bizarre TMO incident during his side's win over the Lions on Sunday.

Referee Maris van der Westhuizen awarded Ryan Crotty a try, after the skipper had latched onto a poor pass from Lions' pivot Marnitz Boshoff and bundled his way over.

But as Colin Slade prepared to kick the conversion, van der Westhuizen appeared to change his tune, bringing in TMO Johan Greef to check the grounding.

Replays subsequently showed the centre had been held up by Lions' back-row pair Warren Whiteley and Jaco Kriel, leaving the Ellis Park faithful delighted and the Crusaders puzzled.

It was van der Westhuizen's first Super Rugby fixture, and he wrongly disallowed Jimmy McNicholl's effort later in the game, adjudging the flyer to have knocked-on when attempting to ground the ball.

Recent controversies have arisen on South African soil, with the Blues furious at a decision made last month by Greef and then referee Stuart Berry, awarding the Lions' Coenie van Wyk a try despite a blatant knock-on from Deon van Rensburg.

"I'm not too sure of the rules - I thought once you awarded a try you couldn't take it back," Blackadder told Stuff.co.nz. 

"That was a first for me."

The disallowed "tries" did not affect the outcome, however, as the Crusaders romped to a 28-7 victory in Johannesburg.


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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
11 Apr 2014, 09:12
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11 Apr 2014, 09:12#2
at the time i thought it the same thing, once the ref awarded a try it couldnt be taken back.

but the more important thing is the right outcome was reached, crotty didnt score that try.

its trys which are awrded or disallowed in error which are annoying as a mofo, adn weve seen more then enough in only 9 weeks of super rugby.

from the top of my head,,,
tom marshalls try vs stormers
benjamins try vs chiefs
van wyks try vs blues
stormers try disallowed vs crusaders

and i know theres at least a few more which i cant recollect at the moment.

as long as the right call is made, its hard to really argue with how that decision was reached in the way blackadder has implied.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Apr 2014, 12:19
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11 Apr 2014, 12:19#3
Could you two dry your eyes please.
SA refs must give the nz and oz sides a taste of their own medicine. If it leads to enquiries because a saffa outfit got it wrong great. Next step is to see the same treatement is dished out to the down under cheats. Its no good having no action taken agaisnt the worst refs in the world - nz twits.It's really laughable given the mountain of bad  decisions that have robbed SA sides of wins that we have these bleats. I dispise the bent down under refs and anything that can be done to rectify matters is welcome. NOT end of story by any means. 
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
11 Apr 2014, 14:28
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11 Apr 2014, 14:28#4
Beanhead, the Bulls and the ref could not even beat the Highlanders. Maybe if the Bulls glued the ball to their hands. 
Question: what does the ref do when a Bull does a triple movement? Answer: Nothing - if he couldn't pick a double movement how on earth is he going to pick a triple let alone a quadruple movement.
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
11 Apr 2014, 14:31
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11 Apr 2014, 14:31#5
 Multiple times in the last couple of weeks the SA linesmen have done everything in their power to engineer a SA win by challenging almost every try scored by the opposition!I'll bet nothing would've been said had the Lions gone over the line in similar circumstances.The ugly side of SA pre-isolation dubious reffing is once again rearing it's head!
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
11 Apr 2014, 18:47
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11 Apr 2014, 18:47#6
 South African referee Stuart Berry, however, has escaped being dropped from the now 15-strong panel despite being heavily criticised by visiting coaches for his performances involving South Africa's Lions.

He controversially awarded a try to the Lions in their 39-36 victory over the Auckland Blues last week, a decision that Bray later said had been incorrect.

The Queensland Reds were also incensed at some of Berry's decisions in their 23-20 loss to the Lions in Johannesburg on Saturday, when the home side came back from 20-3 down to win.

Berry issued two yellow cards to Reds players and had a 16-4 penalty count in favour of the Lions.

"I've never seen that in a game before in my life," Reds coach Richard Graham told Australian media on Sunday of the penalty count.

"It would be fair to say that I felt aggrieved at the end of the match when we were down to six forwards and a back on the scrum and we're going forward and (the Lions front row) stand up and we're not rewarded."




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