Reds Player not sanctioned

The following from News24:-

"Reds prop Taniela Tupou has escaped punishment following his tackle on Stormers wing Craig Barry during their Super Rugby match last weekend.

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Tupou was cited after the match at Newlands but a SANZAAR disciplinary committee on Wednesday determined that the player’s action did not warrant a red card.

Replays of the incident appeared to indicate that Tupou’s tackle was late, high and that he used no arms.

However, SANZAAR came to the conclusion that the incident did not breach the red card threshold.

The decision was in direct contrast to the views of respected SuperSport analysts Nick Mallett and Naas Botha who said immediately after the match:

"I do not know how this foul went unpunished. It was impossible for all four (referee, two assistant referees and the television match official) to miss it," Mallett said.

"It was a clear-cut red. There was no argument. It was a straight-forward decision. Red card," Botha believed.

A SANZAAR judicial committee hearing determined that Tupou contravened Law 9.11 - Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others.
 
But Tupou was issued only a warning under Rule 8.5 of the SANZAAR disciplinary rules.
 
“A warning can be issued for acts of foul play that are viewed by the committee to come close to but do not warrant the player receiving a red card,” SANZAAR stated via a press release.
 
The SANZAAR judicial hearing panel, held via video conference on Tuesday, consisted of Robert Stelzner SC (chairperson), Mike Mika and David Croft.
 
In the finding handed down by Stelzner, the committee ruled the following:
 
"Having conducted a detailed review of the citing commissioner’s report and all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, consisting of a written statement from the player’s opponent, Craig Barry, and from the Stormers’ physician, oral evidence from the player himself and the submissions from his legal representative, Mark Martin QC, the judicial committee concluded that the level of offending did not breach the red card threshold yet warranted a warning under the above rule.
 
"The judicial committee concluded that the player, whilst attempting to use his arms, failed to properly grasp his opponent in the tackle, which resulted in the point of contact being between the player’s right shoulder and his opponent’s upper chest area, causing the opponent to bounce off the player. An inadequate attempt to grasp his opponent immediately before the point of impact resulted in the action being reckless as to the consequences thereof.  This was in contravention of Law 9.11, and close to, but not crossing, the red card threshold. As a result the judicial committee issued the player with a warning.

"The player is therefore free to play."

This is crazy and a recipe for disaster.   Somebody should appeal that decision - since it is clearly a serious case of dereliction of duty by the hearing,   

WTF?

Us yarpies are getting tired of double standards.

"Replays of the incident appeared to indicate that Tupou’s tackle was late, high and that he used no arms."

this is pure BS,.... replays of the incident show exactly the opposite,... the tackle wasn't late,.... the stompies player run against Tupou,... is the stompes player the one who runs agaist Tupou and throws the pass just before the contact,.... this can never be a late tackle,... happens thousand of times,... the guy who wrote this have never watched a game of rugby,.... or is as biased as the yarpies here

wasn't high either,... the contact is at the stompies chest,... that's not high,... never has been

and the reds players did use his arm,... it's very clearly seen in the video, just after the contact, the reds player has his arm totally extended,... you can watch it here:

http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/super-rugby/84018-watch-no-ban-for-reds-prop-after-barry-incident

Looks like a yellow to me ,seen worse get away with less.

And hes not one of ours now is he ? If it were the other way round in that tackle I would think the same and past history has no bearing on this particular incident .

I don't think it was even that bad. Yellow card at best. Seen worser. Huge guy on small guy. Looks lik a big tackle on a small guy, and he was falling. Bit late, and a bit high. Just looked like a poor tackling technique if anything. I have seen Tupou in a few other games he seems to tackle in the fashion of running at people lik a train. But please enough with a double standards. We know SA players have got away with a few things over the years. 

If the offender in this case was an SA player - the noise from the NZ supporters on this site will be deafening -m so it is better that we leave the situation alone.  

No Mikey your way off there,most Kiwis are quite fair in that regard .You and a few others seem to think the utter garbage from your mate beendick is OK and something to be indulged .Like you would someones retarded kid at a family gathering.

"No Mikey your way off there,most Kiwis are quite fair in that regard" ... ??

Oh really??

Bismarck tackl ed your Carter legally and the entire stadium demanded Bismarck"s head. The legal tackle wasn't the issue ... playing against 14 men was the motive behind the roaring crowd. Remember that, Hick? Probably not. 

You guys have cheated your way through to the no 1 spot for years now. It's who you are ... as a people ... we all know this to be a fact. 

So please, Hick ... trying to portray yourselves as a people with integrity is about as far from the truth as one can get.

And SA has cheated their way to 6th. You still cant win no matter how much you lot cheat, but dont worry you will cheat your way to 11th soon just so you can say your the top of the tier 2 nations 

You have just got to love the crying and wailing from SA supporters as they know that they are our bitchs and will be for many years to come Bwahahahahaha

We beat you all the time because your shit rugby players and you are just making excuse's because you cant face the fact we are much better rugby players than you. Beeno just has to make excuses because he can not face the reality of the situation.

If SA didn't cheat you could take the moral high ground but everyone knows there is no more filthy cheating team in the world than the Boks.

Crusaders bro I can tell without even reading its usual shit that cc dip shit is having a girly whinge.I reckon CC stands for cubic centimeter a measurement of its entire pinhead cranial capacity.

Tupou was doing the PI high speed "Hongi " ,like a combination Liverpool/ Eskimo kiss without the lurve !

@mozart,

"Two steps after the ball is passed to contact....so it was borderline late"

you are lying through your teeth,.... and you know it

the following is the secuence of the hit frame to frame,... the quality is quite poor but that's what it was the video uploaded by Rugby365,... in the first frame the stompies player, Barry, is still with the ball in hand:

the nest frame shows Barry throwing the pass,... the ball leaves his hand,.. his left foot is already on the ground

next frame:

next one:

and the hit,... his left foot still in the same place,... no step at all :

where are the 2 steps? there's no step at all,... Barry throw the ball and then comes the hit,... this is called to fix a defender (it's the literal translation from spanish but I think it's correct in English),... never can be a late tackle,... happens thousands of times

this site needs to be imroved,... doesn' t allow to show videos

"We can't see the tackler's right side. But we can see his left where the arm is down and in."

where his left arm is, means nothing at all,... the hit is with the defender's right side

"What we also can see is the tackler's right arm does not extend beyond the passer's body before the hit"

there's no need at all,... according to law 9.16 related to dangerous play, "A player must not charge or knock down an opponent carrying the ball without attempting to grasp that player",... four frames after the hit begins (which correspond to 16 hundreths of a second) Tupou's arm is very clearly seen (if this site would allow to upload videos) completely extended,.... this means that he made the movement of grasping the player (even if he didn't grasp him, all that is needed is the attemp)

"The hit was high on the chest"

here you are right, the hit was "high on the chest",... which means it wasn't high

Taken altogether it wasn't late, making no contact at all with the head, with the right arm accompanying the movement.

Never can be a red card offence.The ref was right and the disciplinary comitee is right

mike,

don't come with that BS,.... if you are not able to discuss the incident itself don't bring the discussion to another completely different issue,... in this case to the stupid confrontation btwin kiwis and saffas

how old are you? 3 or 4?

do you think that saying "case closed" you won the discussion or what? stop being so childish

when the stompies player throw the ball he has his left foot on the ground and before his right one,... to take a step he should put his right foot before the left one (right? or are you going to discuss this also?),... when the hit happens, Barry has still his right foot well behind his left one,.... in fact it's almost in the same position because since the player throw the ball till the hit there are only 3 frames which means 12 hundreths of a second,... it's impossible to take 2 steps in 12 hundreths of a second,....

the fastests men in the world need around 40 steps (bolton,e.g.in the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gUW1JikaxQ) to run 100 m. in 10 seconds (or in this case 9.80 secs),.... the fastest man on earth needs around 0.5 secs to take 2 steps so can you explain how the stompies player can take 2 steps in 0.12 secs?

there's no step at all, didn't hit the head at all, the disciplinary comitee after watching all the angles and watched them properly established that shouldn't be a red,.... and rightly so.

If you have to freeze frame after frame and still find bugger all what chance the ref in real time ? Or the player for that.I thought you saffas were supposed to be proper men .Crying like wee girls .

this site doesn't allow to upload videos, doesn't allow to upload photos,...

don't divert,... we are talking about steps,... and to take one step you have to put one foot before the other,... it's not that difficult, is it?

that never happens in the time since Barry throws the ball and the hit,.... the legs are in the same positon,... it's impossible to take a step if you don't move your legs,... no matter the distance, no matter any other issue,.... if you don't move your legs there's no possible step

"Actually to close a gap you have to take a step...and a ball takes time to cover distance.....time equals steps"

how can you write such an stupidity?

"time equals steps"? well, I've been sitting here in front of the screen for 3 hours, according to your theory and based on your consideration of 2 steps each 12 hundreths of second, I should have walked more than 100 km.

sorry to say that I didn't move from my place,.... zip kilometers, zip meters,... .

to take an step you have to move one foot before the other,... period,... time has nothing to do with it,... nothing,...

and the legs of the stompies players are in exactly the same position respect the other

The incident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Hb6g-E02I

These new tackle laws go too far and are woosifying our game .One hopes it doesnt end up like the soccer sooks.