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Reds topple Chiefs in warm up

Started by Crusaders#113 REPLIES309 VIEWS· 08 Feb 2014, 14:04
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Crusaders#1Club Pro179 posts
08 Feb 2014, 14:04
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08 Feb 2014, 14:04#1
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WING recruit Lachie Turner's first touch of the footy in a Reds jersey produced a try in Toowoomba on Friday night as an exciting preview of the team's attacking mood for 2014.

The Reds rattled on four tries in a convincing 31-20 win over New Zealand's Chiefs, the 2013 Super Rugby champions, as a confidence-lifting first trial for 7438 fans.

The 15-Test finisher's shift from the blue of NSW was the single big-name addition to the Reds ranks and he relished the slickness of his first outing in excellent conditions last night.

There was mid-season slickness to the Reds first try in the second minute and it's only early February.

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Quade Cooper threw a lovely double cutout pass to super-sharp fullback Aidan Toua, whose angled dash set play up nicely for his inside ball to put Turner over.

Just 10 days ago, Cooper was belting a 40-year-old martial arts exponent in his second fight as a boxer.

He was fighting in a higher weight division last night and excelled as if picking up from his fine tour with the Wallabies to Europe late last year.

Another Cooper ball, this time a short one, arrowed burly outside centre Chris Feauai-Sautia to the tryline under the sticks. Cooper also banged over five-from-five with the boot and made an excellent tackle in the frontline on Chiefs centre Charlie Ngatai.

Cooper was upbeat about the trial performance and the side being able to mix up their attacking tactics and play at speed, especially in the first half.

"Things got quite compact in attack at times last year. We wanted to change up the options and keep the opposition guessing because it's important all teams evolve," Cooper said.

It didn't stop there. The backrow seemed more willing to back their passing game to unlock little rushes.

"That game was very positive for us with some young guys coming in, some old guys coming back. It's a little different not seeing our old coach (Ewen McKenzie) but we are all excited by the new ideas Richard is bringing," Cooper added.

Quade Cooper dances round several Chiefs defenders. Picture: Darren England.Source: News Limited

New coach Richard Graham will be relieved the team just evolved into making a winning start in the first game beyond the successful Ewen McKenzie era.

He might have talked of not feeling pressure but it was there.

"Yeah, I think Richard was a bit nervous," Toua said.

"It was really important to us to start 2014 with a win, especially against a very good team like the Chiefs."

Cooper's positioning in the frontline as a defender, rather than at fullback as McKenzie used him, has opened up new dimensions for the Reds attack.

Instead of a defensive stopper in the No.15 jersey to plug into the frontline, the Reds unleashed Toua for 40 exhilerating minutes at fullback and also trialled Turner and young Jonah Placid there.

Toua is a dynamite runner and made several breaks. Centre Mike Harris looks far sharper than in his injury-riddled 2013 while winger Dom Shipperley was also hungry for work under the 1970s-style tape keeping his big hair in place.

The Chiefs left frontline All Blacks forwards Brodie Retallick and Liam Messam at home. The Reds played the first half with 12 Wallabies as opposed to the All Blacks fielding just two.

While the first quarter produced some excellent, fast attack, Toua and prop James Slipper put on big tackles in the second quarter.

The Reds' set piece also put a marker down. The pack generated a scrum penalty they turned into a maulling lineout drive for the Ben Daley try and lock Rob Simmons poached several lineout throws.

A bullocking Curtis Browning showed good pace in a 30m run in the final quarter. The Reds will be back at Ballymore on Sunday morning from 10am-noon to push the season at their annual fan day.

Reds 31 (L Turner, C Feauai-Sautia, M Harris, B Daley tries; Q Cooper 4 conv, pen goal) bt Chiefs 20 (I West, Jarrod Firth, S Cane tries; I West conv, pen goal)

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Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
08 Feb 2014, 14:12
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08 Feb 2014, 14:12#2
 So that's 2-0 to Australia isn't it? Interesting.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
08 Feb 2014, 14:17
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08 Feb 2014, 14:17#3
 by my reckoning in games that actually matter its NZ everything oz zip,you know test matches S15 champs and so on.......much more interesting !
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Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
08 Feb 2014, 14:22
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08 Feb 2014, 14:22#4
 In the Super XV last year the Aussies got the upper hand overall as far as I recall. But at test level, yes, New Zealand and South Africa layed waste to the Wallabies. Ewen was a bigger flop than Peter De Villiers!
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WardadPro6,663 posts
08 Feb 2014, 14:28
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08 Feb 2014, 14:28#5
 As far as I recall the CHIEFS a NZ team had the better of everyone .......in the S15 dont recall any aussies winning anything worth a damn [ including the waaay over rated lions ]
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Feb 2014, 14:32
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08 Feb 2014, 14:32#6

 Wardad


I am really not too interested in these pre-season matches - they normally are there to get combinations right and blood some younsters to see how they are likely to shape in the games to come. 


My own assessment of the Chiefs is that thy have a very good backline and loosies (even without Messam) but their tight five is not really the top one around.   NZ supporters rate Retallick extremely high - he is good in looser phrases of the game - but otherwise really I almost say pathetic.   For instance his line out play is not really acceptable and his power in tight play not up to standard. 


If the Chiefs are going to have a problem - and I think there is every chance of that - the tight 5 forwards will be the problem.


That being said - this match (like all pre-season matches) is really meaningless.  

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
09 Feb 2014, 13:25
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09 Feb 2014, 13:25#7
 positive signs from the reds - im not sure how new coach will go with the reds this year but considering they continuously dust the chiefs eiher here or in nz looking pretty good.
BTW wardad Rugby league world cup was a good showing by the lame kiwis wasnt it...? 
Interesting stat i saw tonight 76% of aussies want kiwis to go home - thx hg & roy...
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
09 Feb 2014, 13:28
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09 Feb 2014, 13:28#8
 btw tahs are the aussie team to watch this year...
Benji's lame defence showed up in the tahs game -big will the new waalaby certainty this year smashed through the preteneder to score a try...
Lovin the start of the season in 2 weeks...!!
Blues and cheifs already being smashed...................!



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
09 Feb 2014, 14:36
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09 Feb 2014, 14:36#9

 Oh Dearie me....is NZ rugby on the slide?

 

 

It's just a question.

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Feb 2014, 14:55
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09 Feb 2014, 14:55#10
Glad Redsman &. Denny are enjoying the preseason 
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
09 Feb 2014, 15:46
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09 Feb 2014, 15:46#11
even though its a nothing match, its important to note that the reds have been a bit of a thorn in the side of three time champions the chiefs.

reds beat the chiefs in 2011, 2012, 2013 and now this preseason match.

chiefs wont face the reds in regluar season, which again shows just how bullshit this format is.
and while it might be argued thats prob a good thing for the chiefs, IMO chiefs were more than capable of beating the reds in both 2011 and 2012 and a chance to not prove that in 2014 is a major bummer, cos thats high profile match.

hopefully both teams face eachother in the finals at some stage.
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
10 Feb 2014, 03:59
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10 Feb 2014, 03:59#12

 I note your rather conciliatory tone Susuke - I will by all means endeavour to maintain one too until the first rigged ref call this season - then likely all bets will be off...


Its funny that QC always seems to have a blinder v  the chiefs maybe shows his dominance over little crudes...


I would like to think Reds will be in the mix this year - but I think it maybe a bit tougher than previous years as the aussie conference is actually looking like being decently competitive with both Tahs and Brumbies definite contenders and Rebels new look outfit hungry for some wins...


As for Tahs - they always receive hype from the media here as Sydney is the most important rugby market in the country... but for once (since Ewen coaching days) they are seriously looking like a complete package - good backs and some serious forwards...

Hoping they don't do too much damage to any key wallabies....


Agree re the format of the competition - not as much interest when domestic teams are playing each other twice and the fact that Reds aren't even playing the Chiefs highlights this scheduling debacle...



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MachiavelliClub Pro323 posts
10 Feb 2014, 14:27
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10 Feb 2014, 14:27#13
 “There is no other way of guarding against adulation, than to make people understand that they will not offend you by speaking the truth. On the other hand, when everyone feels at liberty to tell you the truth, they will be apt to be lacking in respect to you.” 
Niccolò MachiavelliThe Prince - The Original Classic Edition
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Feb 2014, 13:05
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12 Feb 2014, 13:05#14
 Hey B rycy whats up with the Chiefs boet?
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