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Rennie makes no excuses "we were pummelled weren't we"

Started by 3ku15 REPLIES117 VIEWS· 25 May 2014, 13:09
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
25 May 2014, 13:09
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25 May 2014, 13:09#1

Dave Rennie described the Chiefs as "a distant third" in their heavy defeat against the Hurricanes but there was one bright spot amid the gloom.


A healthy Aaron Cruden returned to duty during the second half of the 45-8 humbling and the first five-eighth will now be charged with a rescue mission to save his side's season.


Cruden will likely start when the Waratahs visit New Plymouth on Saturday, a match the Chiefs must win to remain in the top tier of the New Zealand conference before June's international break.


The defending champions currently sit fourth but, only two points behind the front-running Crusaders, they still hold their destiny in their own hands.


Their final three matches are all-Kiwi affairs and positive results against the Highlanders (away) and Hurricanes (home) will aid the playoff push.


Cruden is sure to have his part to play in that. It's unlikely his presence in the run-on XV would have changed much about the hammering on Saturday night, considering how deficient the Chiefs were defensively, but Cruden is the steady hand the champs need in the home stretch.


Consistency will be key when the competition resumes - one quality the Chiefs have been lacking this season. Following one of their best performances (32-20 win over the Blues) with their worst, the Chiefs have strung together three straight victories only once in a rollercoaster campaign.


"Something's just not quite gelling," Cruden said. "We're going through patches - we're pretty good for a couple of weeks and then take a few steps backwards. We've got to try and find that consistency. "


A regular run of games from Cruden will be an important step towards embarking on a winning run and, after missing six weeks with a broken thumb, the pivot feels ready to reclaim his starting spot.


The Hurricanes match arrived just too soon for him to pull on the No 10 jersey, with the All Blacks camp creating a short week of preparation and leaving Gareth Anscombe in the starting lineup. But Cruden is confident another stint away with the All Blacks won't prevent him from returning to his regular role next weekend.


"I was just glad I managed to get back out on the paddock," he said. "The thumb's feeling strong and I think I'll be better for the run."[My fitness] is not too bad. With the thumb injury I was still able to do a bit of running. I had about six or seven weeks off but I was still able to get a bit of fitness and conditioning into me."It would have been great to get a start this week but, being away with the All Blacks, it probably wasn't ideal. I know we're going to be away for a couple of days again but I'm really excited about the opportunity to hopefully get back in that 10 jersey next week."


Rennie, never one to shy away from alterations, hinted there would be a few personnel changes for the encounter with the Waratahs, and Cruden could be among them.


"We'll have a bit of a trawl through the footage - it's going to be tough work - but obviously we need to make some changes and apply a bit more pressure in other areas as well," Rennie said. "[Cruden] is certainly an option."

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 May 2014, 16:08
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25 May 2014, 16:08#2
3ku1
I am sad to state that I have identified what is wrong with the Chiefs and nobody wanted to accept that one.  Their tight 5 forwards are not up to standard and brings nothing to the game at all.   Lets  bear in mind that they only have one prop of value for tight 5 work and that Retallick plays like a loosie masquerading as a lock.  
On of the major problems is under-performance in line outs and they have problems in their loosie combination as well.   Messam has not been producing the goods I expected from him this year and the same applies to Cane.   I think the lack of a quality tight 5 combination forces them to play much tighter rugby - which they are not suited for.
I frankly cannot see them beating the Waratahs this coming weekend and if they a re not careful there may be another massacre.      


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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
25 May 2014, 16:28
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25 May 2014, 16:28#3
 They are really missing some grunt up front, players like Tomololo and Clarke, even Masaga were key players. Although they have had alot of injuries, they still have quality players, problem is its just a team full of champion players not playing like a champion team anymore. Their were signs on their SA tour, altho individual brilliance gt them out of a hole, that it was a misjointed team, it was only a matter of time before a more cohesive team like the Canes put them to the sword. Not only are they misjointed in the tight, they are also also lacking balance in the midfeild. Leiua for eg. Has been brilliant, and was my player of the match, his straight running has really added balance to the canes. Ngtai just isint doing the same, talented player but is lacking combinations. Fruean needs to come bk, and leave Naa Nai Williams at the back. Cruden shld get a start, so second thoughts put naa nai williams on the wing, anscombe at fullback and ngtai and fruean. Chiefs still got a shot, they are very capable of beating the Tahs, but if they play as bad as they did againgst the canes, the form Tahs are in, i think another cricket score is headed their way.
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sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
25 May 2014, 18:30
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25 May 2014, 18:30#4
Yes their TLight5 are poor and they rely on their backline to do all the work. They are most dangerous in the last 20 minutes when teams start to tire, and space opens up for them. Both the Bulls and Cheetas got killed in the last 20 minutes. Their light five are really just fetchers. Retalick was good last year but average this year. 
They have the worst lineout in the tournament so when playing them the opposition should make sure that when playing a territory game to kick the ball out and not just for distance.
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
25 May 2014, 20:34
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25 May 2014, 20:34#5
tight 5 isnt poor, its misconception baseon nothing when u actually look at the numbers.

chiefs didnt play bad at all, but the hurricanes just took every opportunity that was given to them and they made it work, it was similar tot he sharks vs crusaders, only the canes just kept on rolling.

the chiefs being in the NZ confwerence which has been the hardest conference since the beginning of spXV, are very unfortunate that they have to play not only the hurricanes twice, but the highlanders, crusaders too.
this might be unfair consdiering the dominat performances by the kiwi teams, but it will hold all our final contenders in good steed come finals time.

chiefs and cruasaders will make the the finals, and provided they dont face each other in the semis like the last two years, we are looking good for an all NZ final.

hurricanes have the strike power to kill any team. ever since hammet has announced he wont be here to poison the hurricanes in 2015, the seeds of harmony have been planted and the hurricanes will blossom into the mother of all hurricnaes come 2015 when they swoop in and win the spXV title.
they dont have the mental stability though, it is there but cant be relied upon.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 May 2014, 20:43
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25 May 2014, 20:43#6
Sasue 
The June test series is around the corner and the people are shouring and screaming about the test teams selections.   I for one is against selecting players on reputation only - they must show some form before selection.   
However, that is apparently not in the agenda of Hansen and Meyer and some real funnies - especially by Meyer - is to be expected.   I think we must lok at up and coming players as well.   And Morne Steyn was on a defacto sabattical at Stade Francais.  
In the meantime players like Luatua and Nonu did themselves no favour in Super 15.   The same applies to some SA players like JJ.
  
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