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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jun 2017, 11:00
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14 Jun 2017, 11:00#1
The following from News24:-
So, it turns out that Curwin Bosch can't walk on water. 

Who knew?


The hype surrounding the 19-year-old this year has been spectacular, to the point where Sharks management has actively sought to protect him from media requests wherever they can. 


For a large part of the year, Bosch has commanded attention. 


He has put in some sublime performances for the Sharks in Super Rugby and has quickly emerged as one of the brightest young talents in the country, and for a while a Springbok call-up for the June Tests against France was very much on the cards. 

Taking his opportunity in the Sharks No 10 jersey with Pat Lambie out injured, Bosch has shown an attack-mindedness and creativity that South African rugby fans have been yearning for.

 

He is nimble, his distribution is quality, he is quick, he can spark attacks out of nothing and his kicking - at goal and out of hand - has been impressive. 


In Super Rugby this year, Bosch boasts a goal kicking percentage of 82.7% and while his defence remains a concern - he has made just 58.6% of his tackles in Super Rugby - many were already sold on him being the complete package. 


As he single-handedly won games for and collected man-of-the-match awards for fun, Bosch's star continued to rise and as the international window drew near he was included in a Springbok training camp in April.


With Lambie and Handre Pollard both out injured, Bok fans were seeking alternatives to Elton Jantjies after his struggles in 2016. Bosch seemed a tasty alternative. 

Springbok coach Allister Coetzee, though, did not buckle under the pressure. Instead, he backed Jantjies and opted for the experience of Frans Steyn as his back-up. 

Bosch, Coetzee said, should travel with the Junior Boks to the World Rugby U-20 Championship in Georgia. 


It was a decision that hurt the Sharks as Bosch had to miss a couple of Super Rugby matches, but it was also a decision that boosted the chances of the Junior Boks. 

Playing in his second U-20 World Championship, Bosch arrived in Georgia overflowing with confidence. 


You could tell in the way he went about his business. 


In that opening 23-23 draw against France, Bosch was trying ambitious steps, high-risk chips and darting runs from positions where a more sensible approach would probably have been best. It certainly wasn't his finest performance. 


While he was very good against Argentina in a commanding 72-14 group stage win, Bosch was unable to grab a hold of the game in Tuesday's semi-final against England or indeed influence it in any way.


His attempted drop goal in the 77th minute after the Junior Boks had just gone 24-22 down spoke volumes.

 

With South Africa on the front foot, the play was surely to keep edging forward, build pressure and look to milk a penalty. 


Instead, Bosch panicked and snapped at a rushed drop attempt to give England the ball back and a chance to eat up some valuable seconds. 


Of course, if he had somehow knocked that drop over then we would be singing a very different song right now, but he didn't even come close and it was simply the wrong option. 


While he has been exceptional in Super Rugby, Bosch certainly didn't look a cut above any of the other international flyhalves from top-tier nations doing the rounds in Georgia. 


It suggests that Coetzee made the right call not selecting him for France, and going through this sobering experience will hopefully help Bosch in the long run.

Being exposed at the highest level too soon, on the other hand, would have done more harm than good. 


Bosch is a serious talent and one to watch for the future, but his showing in Georgia confirmed that there are still areas in his game that require work.


For me, the area that stood out most was his struggle in finding a balance between playing instinctively and sensibly; when to play high and low risk. 


Perhaps arriving at the tournament that confident was his ultimate downfall. Perhaps he underestimated the opposition.

 

Whatever happened, Bosch can now focus his attention back on the Sharks. 

A Test debut is an absolute certainty, but that day should not be rushed."


I was seriously disappointed with Bosch's performance on Tuesday.   He ws panicky and his kicking game was disappointing with too many errors - while his passing game was virtually non-existent.    


Based on that performance he is far from test material and should not play for the Springboks at present.   It could in fact destroy a promising career if he is introduced on test level too soon.      

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
14 Jun 2017, 11:07
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14 Jun 2017, 11:07#2
Just admit it Mike, you dont like him because he is fat! PLAIN FAT!
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Jun 2017, 11:14
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14 Jun 2017, 11:14#3
 
He is still a child at heart. The talent is obvious. He needs to mature and could be something special ... in a year or three ... just not right now.


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bluebokPro3,977 posts
14 Jun 2017, 11:21
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14 Jun 2017, 11:21#4
LOL Chips!! I still think he has everything it takes to be a great flyhalf. We need to keep things in perspective, the kid is 19, of course he is going to be a little immature in his rugby decision making . It was absolutely the right call to keep him away from the national setup until he was ready. After next years Super Rugby competition we can talk again. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,259 posts
14 Jun 2017, 12:59
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14 Jun 2017, 12:59#5
Is the coach a crash ball donkey? Perhaps he was just following the game plan of aimless isolated play. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jun 2017, 14:04
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14 Jun 2017, 14:04#6
 Chippo
.   Only Fat Fransie qualifies for his name and he still is fat.
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
14 Jun 2017, 20:55
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14 Jun 2017, 20:55#7
 As many other players in the SA U20 team, this player is barely material for professional rugby player.

Spent all the game struggling with english players cracking out the weak way that SA team has to bring the back line into play.

Guy kept hitting his head against the same walls. No rugby brain.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
14 Jun 2017, 22:08
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14 Jun 2017, 22:08#8
 Unlike you Trad. So full of brain. Huh?
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
15 Jun 2017, 12:52
#9
15 Jun 2017, 12:52#9
 Unlike a professional rugby player.

Guy had a full game to understand English players had video training sessions. Yet failed to adjust.
His needless drop attempts cost SA U20 the qualification.

SA can not afford to lose in 15 rugby.
SA no longer has the luxury to field rugby players who have yet to understand rugby basics.

Win or terminate rugby in SA.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Jun 2017, 13:16
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15 Jun 2017, 13:16#10
 Win or terminate rugby in SA.
Same old
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Jun 2017, 13:51
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15 Jun 2017, 13:51#11
 Nah, Trad. It's twats like you that SA can't afford.
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
15 Jun 2017, 18:53
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15 Jun 2017, 18:53#12
For sure, that game gave no reason to change to people who conclude that it is time to terminate rugby in SA.

The question is on people who, after seeing that mess of a game, still do not get it it is time to terminate rugby in SA.

People must be afraid of work when they prefer to see a player unable to adapt during 80 minutes over being rid of this kind of wasteful show.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Jun 2017, 20:04
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15 Jun 2017, 20:04#13
 T, so if SA lose by 2 points against the defending champions, the game should be terminated? Oh boy, if one followed that logic, the game would have been terminated in NZ in 1991?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jun 2017, 20:38
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15 Jun 2017, 20:38#14
 Look
There are some talented players in that squad.   The props looked very good and so does the hooker.   The no 8  is a top class player.  Two of the locks are also going to be very good later in their careers.   The nest lock - Stassen - was injured - but he is even better than the playing locks - who dominated the line-outs.  
The problem basically started with the kicking game of the scrummie and Bosch's immaturity.    Give the guy a few more years and  he would be top class - but at this stage he needs l ots of experience.  
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Jun 2017, 22:23
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15 Jun 2017, 22:23#15
Reasoning with the 78IQ squad Draad. You realise it's a pointless venture, right?
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
16 Jun 2017, 19:24
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16 Jun 2017, 19:24#16
 It is not even winning.

In SA's case, it is mandatory to win.
That reminded, other countries can afford losing as long as bonuses are included in the deal.
Like losing with style, with manner.

Not that it would change the conclusion for SA, but even that, losing with style, SA is not able of that.

In the great mystery of SA clinging to an activity over much pressing priorities, you can not throw in stylished defeats.

SA lose. They lose digustingly.
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
16 Jun 2017, 19:26
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16 Jun 2017, 19:26#17
 In this team, very few players with professional abilities.

That 8, in four years or so, if ever called in the senior team, he will be called a quota player.


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