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ROOS Left Behind!!! Fire the bok coaches NOW!!!!

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KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
13 Aug 2022, 19:28
#1
13 Aug 2022, 19:28#1

So some on here were all cock and hoop. This was an absolute embarrassment of a team. 


From the selections, coaching, tactics to strategy. The all blacks didn't change much. Just played a bit harder up front and ripped the Boks backs a new one. How many times did they run it out from their 22. 


Why did we pick Vermeulen or Dwebe. Neither made it to 40 min. The all blacks were ready for us. 


Nienabaar, Stick and Davids are puppets. Only listen to baas Rassie. 


Willie showed how much better we are on attack with a decent fullback but he is too slow now. Bring Gelant in, move Willemse to 12. Drop dud Allende. 


What a disgrace, but now the Boks will go, oh we faced a desperate All Black team, we don't like to be the favourites 


But we were shite last year and again over are last 5 games


Not good enough 


OL
OléCrüzNewbie4 posts
13 Aug 2022, 19:39
#2
13 Aug 2022, 19:39#2

Hi guys. Yeah tough times indeed. Strange tactics by Fozzie on defence when he had the All Backs hold a passive line with the outside holding deep and that allowed the Boks to send out long passes and advance pretty much for free (my biggest concern is that this convinces the Springbok selectors to go along with Willemse at 12 and Am at 13 because 90% of their metres were uncontested ). Besides that the Boks didn't look like creating anything. The All Blacks punched it up and really had the physical edge over the Boks. I think we can finally say Marx is overrated and the Bok defence is overrated and also their physicality. The Springboks missed loads of tackles again and how many times did the New Zealanders stand in the tackle looking for the offload? Lots of times. You've got to put the man down. The All Blacks just need to fine tune their tactics. Fozzie almost had it right but is it enough to save his job? We will have to see how the Rugby Championship plays out. Los Pumas have very talented backs and if Australia can get Hooper back (I think Kerevi is out of the tournament?) they can beat New Zealand. But, the Boks can learn from this also. Not a lot between the teams really whoever fine tunes their game will win the competition. Lots of question marks on everyone, the Boks could still win it. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
13 Aug 2022, 19:43
#3
13 Aug 2022, 19:43#3

The moment you replaced Ox and Dweeb is when you scored 10 pts. 

Kwagga was a big improvement to the useless Kolisi. 

Delindy was his useless self.

Am had a cracker. Best I've seen him play in ages.

Williemse also had a good match.

Mapimpi doesn't look for work. He's lazy and should be either dropped or given an ultimatum.

You need to rethink you entire back row.

Du Toit is over rated. Kolisi is too easily striped of the ball has no clue how to play on the openside and Wiese is simply not test material.

I see Etzebeth was making the onfield decisions and not your captain. 

Haaaaaaahaha ... How humiliating that must have been for Quota Kolisi.

Lastly ...

WELL PLAY ALL BLACKS. 

A WELL DESERVED WIN.



AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
13 Aug 2022, 20:35
#4
13 Aug 2022, 20:35#4

When I saw the Springbok team for this game with Grandpa V at #8 and one or two others I thought to myself what do the selectors know that we don't.

Well the answer is really plain for all to see.......NOTHING.

Until the SARU gets top flight managers and administrators on board we can expect the same old players and losing tactics being deployed game after game.

Willie might be slowing down but he is still the best #15 in SA.

Mapimpi has not made one try himself he has mostly  benefited from Am's effort and yes he is lazy.

As to our Cappie, well once more he was out of his league.

 But credit to the All Blacks they played their game and won.

Bravo guys.

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Aug 2022, 20:44
#5
13 Aug 2022, 20:44#5

You can have Fozzie, he will be available from tomorrow with any luck lol

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
13 Aug 2022, 22:24
#6
13 Aug 2022, 22:24#6

Ja, the game was still tied 20 min, great try saving tackle on AM. 

That said, Thor, Dweeb, Quotalisi and Ox offered nothing. Neither did Mpimpi as they ate up meters in his channel. 

It is the same guys that let us down and we end up going down 15 points. 

I had feeling that if the all blacks passes stuck they will run havoc. 

I also said that last week's performance is not sustainable for every test match. 

Dud Allende is over rated and has been for some time. 

Richie made a big difference, knows how to hold onto the ball and when to pass. Very skillful runner while holding the ball in both hands and getting the ball into space. 

Willie is the only player in our backline that can almost pass like that.

I still don't this was the best All Black team, but a couple of soft penalties left 6 points on the field. Hendrikse and Wiese off the ball tackle. 

Man, Wiese is stupid player. 

Kwagga did more in 10 min then what kolissi did in his last 10 test matches .

It is True, Etzebeth was real captain tonight 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Aug 2022, 07:00
#7
14 Aug 2022, 07:00#7

You and I are on the same page, Korn.

Glad to see someone on here who thinks for himself and doesn't follow the hype.



MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
14 Aug 2022, 09:47
#8
14 Aug 2022, 09:47#8
Well done AB’s and your supporters. You don’t know who’s pulling what strings and how hard in anything that is South Africa, let alone sport. Irrespective, the coach, selections and game plan is fucken KAK.
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
14 Aug 2022, 10:28
#9
14 Aug 2022, 10:28#9

Ja, we have some talented players around but they get thrown into the deep end , lumbered with a game plan that doesn't suite them and then it is their fault for not fitting in . 

Surely the best coaches device plans to fit around their players and not the other way around 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
15 Aug 2022, 16:27
#10
15 Aug 2022, 16:27#10

This is the squad that is selected to tour Aus. We are left with over the hill Vermeulen and newcomer deon fourie at 35, but yet Roos gets the boot. 

What the fuck man. This guys have lost the plot and my respect


Props:
Steven Kitshoff (Stormers)
Vincent Koch (Wasps)
Frans Malherbe (Stormers)
Ox Nche (Sharks)
Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92)

Hookers:
Joseph Dweba (Stormers)
Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears)

Locks:
Lood de Jager (Wild Knights)
Eben Etzebeth (Sharks)
Salmaan Moerat (Stormers)

Loose forwards:
Pieter-Steph du Toit (Verblitz)
Siya Kolisi (Sharks)
Elrigh Louw (Bulls)
Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs)
Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers)
Duane Vermeulen (Ulster)

Utility forwards:
Deon Fourie (Stormers)
Franco Mostert (Honda Heat)

Scrumhalves:
Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles)
Jaden Hendrikse (Sharks)
Herschel Jantjies (Stormers)
Cobus Reinach (Montpellier)

Flyhalves:
Elton Jantjies (NTT Docomo)
Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers)

Centres:
Lukhanyo Am (Sharks)
Damian de Allende (Wild Knights)
Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins)

Outside Backs:
Canan Moodie (Bulls)
Warrick Gelant (Racing 92)
Willie le Roux (Verblitz)
Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks)

Utility backs:
Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles)
Frans Steyn (Cheetahs)
Damian Willemse (Stormers)

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Aug 2022, 16:32
#11
15 Aug 2022, 16:32#11

Oh good Jesse is there….I feel better already.

MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
15 Aug 2022, 16:36
#12
15 Aug 2022, 16:36#12
Fuck, hoped Jessica was still lights out.
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
15 Aug 2022, 16:38
#13
15 Aug 2022, 16:38#13
Roos needs to look for greener pastures. This coach has never had my faith. He is a fkn DOOS.
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
15 Aug 2022, 16:48
#14
15 Aug 2022, 16:48#14

Ja, the only right thing Rassie did was to cap Roos and throw away our test rankings as well as our test talent for his own stubbornness  

MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
15 Aug 2022, 16:54
#15
15 Aug 2022, 16:54#15
Just in, Roos left out of traveling squad because he can’t kick.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Aug 2022, 17:33
#16
15 Aug 2022, 17:33#16

Haaaahaha. Yes ... a lights out Jesse would have been better.

The Goats struggle enough with all the quotas .... but is it really necessary to select the absolute worst of the bunch.

It's never ending. 

We could be so much better. 



KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
15 Aug 2022, 17:43
#17
15 Aug 2022, 17:43#17

Well, even though the Wobblies were destroyed by the Bargies. I'm expecting them to run circles around the blobs

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Aug 2022, 18:28
#18
15 Aug 2022, 18:28#18
The omission of Roos and Thomas du Toit is as short sighted as ever not to mention the retention of Vermeulen and Frans Steyn
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
15 Aug 2022, 18:49
#19
15 Aug 2022, 18:49#19

Ja, So Vermeulen was okay for Ulster, but not great and nowhere near where he use to be. Then, on the other side we have the 22 year old Roos that has been putting a performance in week after week. Roos can still improve a lot where as Vermeulen can only go down. 

I agree that Thomas the Tank is a huge let off. Imagine having him in our starting line up along with Kitshoff and Marx. 

Frans haven't even touched a ball in ages and have been playing in B rated Varsity cup competition all year. How on earth does he add value. 

It is okay to have one geriatric mascot hanging around but to have 3 or 4 takes the biscuit

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Aug 2022, 19:08
#20
15 Aug 2022, 19:08#20
It’s just so short sighted They identify Wiese as Vermeulen’s replacement and that’s it. Wiese is just dumb muscle. He will put his head down and bash a metre or two, he will also always do something stupid as with the late hit on Smith In Roos we have the same physicality as Roos with the added advantage of being a skilful thinking ball player It’s a fucking no brainer which player you invest in It’s the same with Willemse, he has been earmarked for fullback when his best position is 12 as he showed on Saturday and all season for the Stormers. Thomas was brilliant for the Sharks this past season - dominant in the scrums and really good in general play. Another turnover king Our side needs an injection of youth - Ox, Thomas, RG, Roos, Hendrikse, Willemse, Nkosi and Gelant would provide just that
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