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Rugby Championship Folau: Wallabies can soar against All Blacks

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Aug 2018, 11:46
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14 Aug 2018, 11:46#1

Sydney - Australia are beginning to reach their true potential, star fullback Israel Folau said on Tuesday, vowing to unleash his aerial prowess against the world champion All Blacks

Folau received a one-match ban after his last international outing when he sent Ireland skipper Peter O'Mahony sprawling in a clash for the high ball during their contentious final Test. 

Despite the incident, the 29-year-old said he would not hold back in Sydney against the New Zealanders, who possess their own potent aerial weapon in Jordie Barrett. 

"I believe my technique is fair play and I'll attack the ball at every opportunity I get to try to win possession for the team," he told reporters ahead of Saturday's opening Rugby Championship match at ANZ Stadium.

"That mind-set won't change." 

Folau, who dismissed speculation he would play in the centres rather than at fullback, believed Australia were closing the gap on the back-to-back world champions. 

He said Saturday's match, which doubles as the first fixture of the three-Test Bledisloe Cup, was a chance to build on Australia's 23-18 win the last time the two sides met in Brisbane last October. 

"Last year we really built a good foundation within our team, we came so close in the second game and managed to get the win in the third one," he said. 

"It was a good finish, but was a just a taste of the potential the team can fulfil." 

Utility back Matt Toomua said Australia wanted to make amends for the heavy losses suffered in the past two matches against the All Blacks in Sydney - going down 42-8 in 2016 and 54-34 last year. 

"We owe the Sydney crowd something," he said. 

"Unfortunately we haven't done well here in a little while, so it's time to give them something to cheer about." 

Toomua is back with the Wallabies after a two-year absence and said he had learned a lot playing in England for Leicester Tigers, where he will stay until mid-2019. 

"There's a lot more problem solving as a playmaker," he said. 

"I think that's quite good mentally, to find ways to win against different teams and different styles of play."

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WardadPro6,663 posts
14 Aug 2018, 11:56
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14 Aug 2018, 11:56#2

Hey dingus heres a plan even an eejit halfwit like you can understand[ with time and someone to read it and comprehend it for you] 

Dont kick it at Folau the homophobe , or tell him a gay dude sexed the ball up.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Aug 2018, 13:54
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14 Aug 2018, 13:54#3

Homophobia virtually doesn't exist. The term is one of many Soviet style indoctrination tools to police thought. 

Anyway, to the rugby. You can kick at Folau and trap him. It's been done many times. I actually prefer him at centre. He is an unbelievable playmaker. The ability to attack is not the problem Australia have, they are too unbalanced. Their defence has been very poor since Deans was axed. In their past 50 All Black tests they've conceded 40+ points 8 times, 6 of those have been in the past 15 All Blacks tests. That's unbelievable. Their pack has supposedly been beefed up. We'll see, but New Zealand have a better pack and more tools available to them. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
14 Aug 2018, 13:59
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14 Aug 2018, 13:59#4

or tell him a gay dude sexed the ball up


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2018, 14:44
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14 Aug 2018, 14:44#5
Soar like Icarus?
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WardadPro6,663 posts
14 Aug 2018, 15:19
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14 Aug 2018, 15:19#6

Some A grade bullshit there augie ,just check out beendork for proof of its existence and what the fuck has it to do with the Soviets ?

Yes indeed Moz the darling wee angel may well get his wings singed .Dont think he approves of waxing ...

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Aug 2018, 15:54
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14 Aug 2018, 15:54#7

How many people have an actual phobia of homosexuality? I guarantee it is less than 1% of all people. Having an opinion is the pesky problem. Therefore terms are created to control what can be deemed acceptable thought. Homophobia is just a mechanism to control behaviour and police thoughts. Nothing more, nothing less. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Aug 2018, 05:25
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15 Aug 2018, 05:25#8

All things considered, it was an over-reaction. Neo-Libs can physically assault children, expose children to pornography, encourage them to alter their body and damage them psychologically, promote mental illness, attack the family which is the basic nucleus of society, hunt people down and get them fired, slandering them with lies. They can do all these or more, and give themselves a nice big pat on the back for doing absolutely nothing, but don't you dare say you don't agree with homosexuality. That's a hateful comment. Never mind that these people can light effigies of you and post it online, call for other people to murder you, call for you to be raped, or children be raped in front of you and taken away. The hypocrisy is outrageous. If you truly want to be a brave person, be a good one. You can be anything but that. Facts don't matter, real science doesn't matter. Only relativism matters. "Do what thou wilt and let that be the whole of the law". Folau's comment is one the least offensive I have ever heard. Certainly much less offensive than telling young white girls they must shut up about their rape "for the sake of diversity". Much less offensive than slandering an entire race and gender for crimes they commit the least of compared to any other demographic. These bastions of morality are the least capable of guiding society. 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2018, 08:38
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15 Aug 2018, 08:38#9

Augen, and the alternative is what? An ultraconservative view that goes too far the other way and simply pushes all the bullshit underground? The problem with that is, it is still there, it is just hidden. And stop purposefully blurring the line between liberalism and pedophilia. I don't know of one liberal person that encourages assaults on children. However, a South African reporter that has just released a book laying bare the pedophilia of ministers in the ultra conservative apartheid government, has just plainly been assassinated. Yet more embarrassing evidence that proves pedophilia is everywhere and has nothing to do with liberalism. In fact, you can be bloody certain that if the apartheid government had stayed in power none of this shit would have come out.    

"Neo-Libs can physically assault children, expose children to pornography, encourage them to alter their body and damage them psychologically, promote mental illness, attack the family which is the basic nucleus of society" 

The above is such a slanted view it is actually comical. Have you ever met a genuine non-abused gay person? Just a plain individual that was born gay? Them fighting against it is what causes the psychological problems. I know someone personally that is gay, and this person fought against it their whole life because they did NOT want to be gay, but they were. He was a nightmare to be around because he was so unhappy. After finally taking the hard road, and it is the hard road, and coming out, he is much happier and has flogged all the psychological strife he carried before. 

Augen, you are just another conservative Christian that is so blinded by faith that you are too stupid to see that you are exactly the same as extreme Muslims...which I am sure you hate. 


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Aug 2018, 08:53
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15 Aug 2018, 08:53#10

Blinded by faith? Every word I spoke was true. The stupidity is for neo-libs to pretend that they have any moral grounding. The more neo-liberalism has impacted society the more fragmented and dysfunctional it has become. "Be true to yourself" is the mantra, so long as you only seek one path. Suffer from gender dysphoria? You can only pursue transgenderism. If you seek out alternative treatment, you are attacked. If you want to treat those seeking out alternative treatment, you are attacked more severely. Christianity has the appropriate tools to serve those who are homosexual, should they choose to seek it out. It's about choice. Islam does not offer choice. Neo-liberalism does not offer choice. Which of the two are forming a nice partnership? Neo-liberalism and Islam have become very close. I too know homosexual men and women. How could I not, the shift happened most greatly in my generation. I knew and still know many. Some of them are no longer homosexual, one in spite of living as such for over 40 years. If only you'd educate yourself on these matters, instead of blindly accepting whatever narrative is popular at the time of writing, you'd have a greater appreciation of the complexity of the issue.

Back to Folau, yes it was an overreaction. I clearly outlined many reasons why it is was hypocritical. I credit him for being strong enough, courageous enough to stand his ground. It's never an easy thing to do. 

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WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Aug 2018, 09:44
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15 Aug 2018, 09:44#11

Pedos were and probably still are rampant in the English conservatives.The right wing arseholes and their lutheran buddies who had a stranglehold on Queensland under Joh Bjelke had their own brothels depending on wether you fancied girls or young boys.The former head of the police force Terry Lewis was the last prisoner in Boggo road as reward for his corrupting the QLD police .

I would rather be a lefty than some conservative arse who looks to impose their bullshit morality on others while diving into their own wee cesspit.

Folau ? This prick used to drink and screw everyrthing that moved now suddely he is the arbiter of all thats just and right ? Usual sanctimonious pious holier than thou shit made by hypocrites of the first water.

As BB said those on the left have no time for pedos like all decent minded folks ,funny how the various churches are chock full  of them innit ? Not just the catholics too mind you but all of them.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2018, 09:46
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15 Aug 2018, 09:46#12

You and truth are far removed from each other and as per normal you carry on with your Folau BS.   That is to be expected from a serial BSter and spreader of false player evaluations.     

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2018, 09:51
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15 Aug 2018, 09:51#13

Augenoffner, "Educate yourself" . Hahaha. My brother is gay, how much closer can you get to it? I have educated myself plenty. That is just it, you have no education on the matter whatsoever. You just go on what the bible says. That is not education, that is blind faith. Some people may become gay because of abuse or whatever, and that I don't agree with. I also find all this trans sex stuff ridiculous. But some are born gay. It is a fact, it is genetic, it is not a decision. My brother absolutely did not want to be gay .He fought against it his whole life. He had only girlfriends until he was in his thirties, but as it came out afterwards, never really got physical with them. Even as a tiny child he was always different, always disinterested in sport and "boy"games played by us, his brothers, instead he'd play with the girls. By the way, I am not a liberal, if anything, I am relatively conservative, but I do see things simply for what they are. I don't care about any current narrative, or outdated narrative. I care only about the facts. I care only about science. I care only about proof.  


" If only you'd educate yourself on these matters, instead of blindly accepting whatever narrative"

You tell me to educate myself instead of blindly accepting a narrative. That is exactly what you are doing with the bible. Blindly accepting it. HYPOCRITE HYPOCRITE HYPOCRITE. Remove the log from your own eye. so you can see clearly to remove the spec from your brother's eye. I read that in some book once......

I am going to leave it there. We are not going to convince one another on this, so there is no point trying. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Aug 2018, 09:54
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15 Aug 2018, 09:54#14

Lefties don't like paedophiles? Then tell me, who is pushing pedosexuals? Who was who attacked conservatives (I'm neither Conservative or Liberal) as monsters for "attacking" paedophiles? Who is it who sexualizes children and abuses them? The Liberal entertainment industry. Who is it who legalised child marriage in Sweden? Who is it who tells rape victims to be quiet (including children)? Who is it who is teaching children to self-sexualize at a young age, as young as 5? Who is it who is pushing the idea that sex with children doesn't harm them? The neo-libs never cease to step on their own toes.


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Aug 2018, 09:57
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15 Aug 2018, 09:57#15

If you truly educated yourself, you'd be well aware that there is no genetic basis for homosexuality. Zero. There is no such thing as being born gay, aside from artificially inseminating a fetus, while in the womb, with certain hormones and chemicals which obviously disrupt the development of the baby. 

I don't have blind faith. I have an actual education and fully examine matters before arriving at a conclusion. What you are pushing is neither science or morality. 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2018, 09:59
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15 Aug 2018, 09:59#16

Remind me Augen, who is it who sexualizes children and abuses them?????


  1. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
  2. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
  3. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
  4. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
  5. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
  6. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
  7. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
  8. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
  9. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
  10. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
  11. Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
  12. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
  13. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
  14. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
  15. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
  16. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
  17. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist *Robert Bauman** was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
  18. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
  19. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
  20. Republican legislative aide *Howard L. Brooks** was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
  21. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
  22. Republican preacher *Stephen White**, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
  23. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
  24. Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
  25. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
  26. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
  27. Republican politician *Andrew Buhr** was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
  28. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
  29. Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
  30. Republican County Councilman *Keola Childs** pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
  31. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
  32. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
  33. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
  34. Republican County Commissioner *Merrill Robert Barter** pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
  35. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
  36. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
  37. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
  38. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate *Robin Vanderwall** was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
  39. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
  40. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
  41. Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
  42. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young.
  43. Republican state senator Ralph Shortey from Oklahoma admitted to being involved in sodomy with a 17 year old male prostitute and transporting child pornography.
  44. Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert in jail for the payments he made to cover up raping his wrestlers when he was a high school coach.
  45. Republican Judge and campaign official Tim Nolan for President Donald Trump indicted for human trafficking and forcing a minors (9) to engage in sexual activity and giving alcohol to minors (results from the court pending).

List of Republican Pedophiles Protected By The FBI

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2018, 09:59
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15 Aug 2018, 09:59#17

Borrowed your list Crusadersfan. Hope you don't mind. 

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WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:00
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15 Aug 2018, 10:00#18

BB you are quite correct in all you say .If someone is gay it has about as much relevance to you personally as if they were heterosexual.If it threatens you then thats your problem just shut the fuck up and stay away from whatever offends you .

Your either  born gay  or not and the harm caused because of the bullshit thrown at gay people causes untold misery .M ost people know of the "spinster aunt "  or their uncle who never quite found the right woman to settle down with ,all leading lives of quiet desperation and forced to endure others shame .

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:00
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15 Aug 2018, 10:00#19

Thank you for providing a list of humanists and masons et al. Your point? 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:03
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15 Aug 2018, 10:03#20

Oh I see you fully examine matters...on Beeno's Christian conservative narrative maybe. Makes sense I guess. 


Mr "I don't have blind faith" please prove God exists for me. There's a good chap. 

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WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:04
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15 Aug 2018, 10:04#21
Missing that cunt Roy moore  who enjoyed hanging out at malls to proposition young girls and tried to get permission from mothers to date their underage daughters [all while he was old as fuck and a judge to boot]And your either born gay or not end of fucking story.Unless you augie somehow think you could be swayed eh ? Most of the homophobes are in the closet so maybe thats it ?
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:13
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15 Aug 2018, 10:13#22

My point, to the one playing very very dumb. You say Neo liberals are pushing the pedophile agenda. I provided a list of non liberal pedo's. I'm sorry if it is confusing. Should I use smaller words next time? Maybe some pictures?   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:21
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15 Aug 2018, 10:21#23

You are swatting at thin air is the point. Of course there are non-Democrat paedophiles. So what's the point? You have however failed to acknowledge the Liberal drive to bring paedophilia into acceptance. That is my point. In fact, my opening post was actually aimed at the fact that they are the most draconian presence in the Western world. That they proclaim to allow freedom of thought and expression, but attack anyone who dares to even appear to think something contrary to the party mandate. That there was such an uproar over what Folau had to say, but neo-libs accept so much worse. Not ignore it, but protect it. Neo-liberalism, which is actually shaped by a collection of very ancient pagan ideologies and practices, is rotten to the core. I do necessarily like "the right" either. As said elsewhere, it's called the right hand path and the left hand path. Duality. It's nothing more than an act. I understand very well the identity and history as well as the ideological and spiritual underpinnings of the ruling class. Too bad their herd don't. 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:29
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15 Aug 2018, 10:29#24

Augen, I find your insight into rugby to be among the best on the forum , but I find your views on this to border on retarded. As I said, we aren't going to convince each other, so its best we just leave it be. I'll catch you on a rugby chat.  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Aug 2018, 10:59
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15 Aug 2018, 10:59#25

Augen what these nutters cant see is that the left are the ones pushing to normalize these perversions. These brain dead clowns trot out a list of republican pervs and thVnk they have proved something. Always remember it was the perv Hussein Obummer that tried to force trans men pervs into womens bathrooms. it was Chrvs Cuomo of CNN who said a father who objected to these trans men being in his 12 year old daughters bathroom was a bigot. it was the Hollwood elite who gave the pedo Roman Polansky a standing ovation. it is the leftist press who gets apoplectic if anybody says this is all wrong and calls it hate speech.. Note also all the left writers wanting to educate children that they can choose what gender they are. Then we have the the left wing loons who want to abolish gender. We have left wing Scottish fist Minister Sturgeon saying a child of 4 Vs old enough to choose its agenda. They are advocating for these perversions 24/7. At the same time these fiends are advocating the murder of unborn children!

Augem its pretty obvious that we have some of the pervs here on the board as they stoutly defend these sick perversions. Come out of the closet pervs. Warped Dud is besides himself with rage at any negative comments about the perversion of homosexuality.

Tells us who are trans, who are pedos and who are homosexuals. Come out of the closet and lets hear from you! No more hiding away! Warped Dud you could lead the way.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2018, 12:31
#26
15 Aug 2018, 12:31#26

Add to that list Bundy - who was a mass murderer - but also a Republican party activist  

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WardadPro6,663 posts
16 Aug 2018, 07:16
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16 Aug 2018, 07:16#27

Repugs dont care how heinous someone is ,so long as they say they pray the right  way.

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
17 Aug 2018, 03:20
#28
17 Aug 2018, 03:20#28

Thank goodness we have some rugby coming up!


Augen sounds like a two-brain cell version of Beeno At lease Beeno has a sense of humor & at least Augen knows about rugby

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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
17 Aug 2018, 03:45
#29
17 Aug 2018, 03:45#29

Jesus was the first cross-dresser. He has long hair, wears a dress, perfume and a cross  

Yet no mention of this in the Bible sessions- along with the churches antics being swept under the carpet....All while they attempt to instead pass the blame to the non-religious.

In Apartheid South Africa, Jesus was also portrayed as a white man, rather than as a jew. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
17 Aug 2018, 03:51
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17 Aug 2018, 03:51#30


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Aug 2018, 04:15
#31
17 Aug 2018, 04:15#31

In Apartheid South Africa, Jesus was also portrayed as a white man, rather than as a jew. 

Added to that black people couldn't say "Our Father" because Jesus was a white man....quote unquote the Dutch Reformed Church.

Having lived through that horrific era how can anyone not be bitter and angry.

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