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Rugby: Injuries no bad thing for All Blacks; Gregor Paul; NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
04 May 2017, 20:58
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04 May 2017, 20:58#1

There's nothing more misunderstood in rugby than how coaches feel about injuries.

The current assumption is that All Blacks coach Steve Hansen will be in some kind of heightened state of angst as a result of the number of frontline test players currently not playing.

With the exception of one player - Dane Coles - he won't be fretting at all. In fact, if anything, he'll be finding a number of positives with the situation. This season, with 14 tests and two games, is unusually tough.

It's a struggle enough normally for the All Blacks coaches to manage the workloads of players and get the best out of all them for all of the season.

It never happens. A few players, the special ones, such as Beauden Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Ben Smith, Sam Whitelock and Kieran Read, can hold their form for the duration, but they are the exceptions.

The general rule is that the demands of the professional season are too much for most and there will be periods in the year when performance will drop off for some players.

An enforced injury break is therefore not the disaster it is portrayed as being. Take Smith as an example: he's got a solid base of game time under his belt despite missing a couple of weeks due to a head knock earlier in the campaign.

His current ankle strain has prevented him from travelling to South Africa which is no bad thing. Last year a handful of the Highlanders' test players had to travel to the Republic twice for Super Rugby and then return for a third visit with the All Blacks. They also had to travel twice to Argentina.

The Crusaders' All Blacks were also subjected to three trips to South Africa and it was no wonder that Hansen reckons his side crawled over the line in November with laboured victories against Ireland and France.

Smith should reach the Lions series fresh and firing. The same is true of Israel Dagg who should return in a couple of weeks and the fact he too has missed the Crusaders trip to Africa will pay dividend later in the year.

Both Read and Jerome Kaino will be short of rugby coming into the Lions series but if there are two athletes who Hansen would trust to play a test undercooked, it would be those two.

Time off now is time in the bank down the track and inevitably when some players begin to flag later in the year, the likes of Smith, Dagg, Read and Kaino should have plenty left in the tank.

The same is true of Nehe Milner-Skudder. He'll be gutted to miss the Lions series should that be his fate, but the consolation is that he will be, presumably, in excellent fettle later in the year.

And that's why Hansen will be relatively relaxed about the state of play. The ongoing battle Coles is fighting to overcome delayed concussion symptoms will be the only concern beyond the normal.

The fact Coles is suffering symptoms more than six weeks after he last played is further indication that concussion is the most dreaded injury in the game.

Medics can't make any knowledgeable or accurate predictions about when or even if players suffering from concussion will be cleared to play and while everyone is hopeful Coles will be back before the Lions arrive, there's no certainty that will be the case.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
04 May 2017, 21:06
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04 May 2017, 21:06#2
 An optimistic view on injuries but he has a good point, i.e. the rugby season is too long for players to maintain their intensity and skill level throughout. 
However, If I was the coach I wouldn't be too keen on a batch of injuries before the test season has even started. 
On the positive side it will give a chance to emerging players, e.g. McKenzie. The ABs always have someone they are developing & these guys get their chance when there are injuries.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 May 2017, 01:03
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05 May 2017, 01:03#3

Ha, ha the mind games Gatland always plays are well underway. He usually proclaims that his team will beat the ABs so I expect to read this soon. Here is a copy past (for wee cc)

Warren Gatland suggests mounting injury tally will be concern for All Blacks ahead of Lions arrival; from Rugby Stuff

 

While the recovery of his captain Sam Warburton is going well, Warren Gatland felt injuries to players like Dane Coles would be a concern for the All Blacks.

 

The mounting tally of injured All Blacks is not going unnoticed by Warren Gatland.

 

Less than a month from the British and Irish Lions departure for their tour of New Zealand, a number of prominent figures in Steve Hansen's side have been relegated to the sidelines.

 

Captain and No 8 Kieran Read is out with a broken thumb, vastly experienced flanker Jerome Kaino has had to have knee surgery, fullback Ben Smith has a ankle issue and a concussion worry has surfaced for Dane Coles in addition to the calf injury he was already recovering from.

Not surprisingly, the Kiwi head coach of the Lions had been keeping a close eye on the situation.

 

"They (Read and Coles injuries) are quite significant I think, Ben Smith as well," he told Sky Sports in the UK.

 

'With Kieran Read, they are saying he's going to be back in time but he won't have had a lot of rugby under his belt potentially before the first test.

 

"Coles seems to have quite a niggling injury that's been going on for a while. It's one of those injuries that is hard to get confidence from and you have to be careful about not coming back too early, so that will be a bit of a concern for them."

 

The series of injuries comes at a time where Gatland's own squad are making positive strides in that regard.

 

Skipper Sam Warburton, who damaged knee ligaments last month, Welsh team-mate and veteran lock Alun Wyn Jones and Irish halfback Conor Murray (both shoulder) were all tracking in the right direction.

 

Gatland's assessment of all three was a boost to the prospects of the Lions, who play 10-matches on the tour and face the All Blacks in the first of three tests in Auckland on June 24.

 

"I spoke to Sam yesterday and he feels he could play now," Gatland said to Sky Sports.

 

"He's made some really good progress and is really happy with how he's responded to treatment. I expect him to play before he goes to New Zealand.

 

"Alun Wyn Jones is making good progress as well. He's confident that he's going to be okay as well. It looks like the Ospreys are going to be involved in the semi-finals of the Pro12 and that would give him an opportunity to get some rugby under his belt.

 

'The prognosis with Conor Murray looks positive in terms of hopefully getting a game for Munster [before the tour]. It'll be good for him over the next few weeks if he can get a game."

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 May 2017, 02:07
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06 May 2017, 02:07#4
Injuries mount as Liam Squire left the field midway through the first half of the Landers game with a broken thumb.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 May 2017, 02:49
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06 May 2017, 02:49#5
One might say a delusional view on injuries. The Lions are going to be a tough nut.
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
07 May 2017, 02:39
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07 May 2017, 02:39#6
 NZ has depth, but its going to be tested against the lions. The experience level is depleting, but it gives the new breed a chance to make a statement, this could be the only chance some of the new guys get for awhile so they need to make the most of it.
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