SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Jun 2024, 17:37#2
Interesting but they seem to be basing those stats around WC’s alone - sides are far more conservative when it comes to playing in a WC
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
05 Jun 2024, 06:58#3
I don't think that these stats are too far off outside of WCs.
One watches old matches and how the guys looked. I think Eben could actually carry a team from the eighties on his back...and beat more defenders than PSTD ;)
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jun 2024, 14:26#4
Have we ever had a more flaccid go to forward runner than Dud Toit
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
05 Jun 2024, 15:13#5
I don't mind PSDT too much but he's nowhere near the hype he gets.
For me, it's a bunch of flash caused by be being tasked with targeting smaller men. He got around nicely in the WC final, but that was his best game since the previous WC.
Compare RG and PSDT...it's night and day. RG takes lineouts like an NBA player and has oodles of skill, smarts, speed, and power. They're nowhere near the same league.
I'd select RG and Mostert ahead of him at lock and an actual flanker instead of him too.
What can PSDT do that RG can't? Nothing. What can he do that Roos can't? Nothing.
Put Wiese on the side of the scrum and tell him to target the opposition 10. It would be absolute carnage. Like, I would actually be worried about the health of a Mo'ungu or Marcus Smith were Wiese charged with shutting them down.
People just love a good hype train because there is safety in numbers.
They huddle together like emperor penguins, afraid to be caught out in the cold.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Jun 2024, 17:49#6
"What can PSDT do that RG can't?"
Hmmmm . . . let's see . . . he can be the Springboks' most influential player in two consecutive RWCs . . . he can start in both our RWC final matches . . . he can be named player of the tournament in 2019 . . . he can be named player of the RWC final in 2023 . . . need I go on?
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jun 2024, 18:49#7
I can’t think of anything Dud can do which Snyman can’t, except perhaps the quantity of process tackles. Snyman on the other hand can actually be a Springbok lock, a position Dud could never secure. His lineout work is way better, his offloading is way better….and he is way stronger in the tight stuff.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Jun 2024, 19:05#9
Geez there are some seriously ignorant rugby followers on here
Wow
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
06 Jun 2024, 05:54#10
RG suffered some injuries. Were he not injured, my feeling is that he be the top rated pick in the world right now.
I think he's probably in everybody's top 3 anyway, despite so much time out of the game.
Rooi, yes please go on. Tell us more of what PSDT can do that RG can't. You asked, and I accept.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Jun 2024, 07:37#11
So we want to move 6’10 and 136kg RG to 7 do we? Wow
And retain the physically inept Mostert ahead of PSDT? Wow
And Roos to 12 - no Wow needed
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
06 Jun 2024, 08:25#14
Exactly.
Marx didn't. Eben didn't. Faf didn't. Pollard didn't. Mostert didn't. Willemse didn't...and Arendse didn't...oh and neither did Kolbe or Duane.
PSDT isn't bad, he's just not near the type he gets.
Apparently too much for some to hear.