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Rugby: Slumbering giant Eagle stirs; by Gregor Paul; NZ Herald

Started by Just_win3 REPLIES258 VIEWS· 26 Oct 2014, 07:32
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Oct 2014, 07:32
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26 Oct 2014, 07:32#1

The timing is up for debate but America's rise to Tier One status in world rugby is a question of when and not if.

Forget what happens in Chicago.

That won't paint the right picture of where the US potentially are. The Eagles, even againstwhat willmost likely be an experimental All Blacks XV, don't stand a chance.

They will be tanked, as Scotland are likely to be a couple of weeks later, but the future of the former is a lot more promising than the latter.

The US have almost 1.5 million registered players and, on that measurement, have the second- highest participation rate in the world behind England. There's no reason to celebrate volume per se - rugby success doesn't simply come on the back of building playing numbers. But it helps.

And in the case of the US,what they have now is a generation of genuine athletes growing up with rugby as their chosen sport.

The distinction is critical. For decades, rugby in America filled a void for alternate sport-seekers at Ivy League universities or was something failed NFL wannabes fell into. Everyone used to talk about gridiron converts as the future of the sport but a lifetime in the anaerobic, structured American football world does not remotely prepare anyone for the aerobic, nuance-riven game of rugby.

The Americans' patience is going to pay off. By building a strong playing base they have a sustainable structure. In time, legions of skilled players will emerge into adulthood- players who grew up thinking, breathing and knowing only rugby.

There aren't many, if any, in the current US Eagles set-up who have been rugby for life and that will be the single biggest difference between the two sides at Soldier Field.

What will be fascinating is if the same fixture is played in 10 years' time. The gap between the two might not be so big by then. There's quiet confidence within American rugby circles that, by the 2019 World Cup, or possibly 2023, the Eagles will be able to consistently beat the weaker Tier One sides.

Longer-term followers of the international game will be sceptical. Since 1991 when they acquitted themselves surprisingly well at the World Cup, the Eagles have been branded a sleeping giant.

At the 2011 World Cup - and no doubt this week in Chicago - they didn't appear to be in any danger of waking. In 20 years, it's not obvious the Eagles have advanced much in terms of their overall skill and tactical development.

But that's poised to change, and not just because of the new generation that will soon emerge. The top end of the game is set to change, too.

Firstly, the inclusion of sevens in the Olympics is significant. The US is an Olympic nation and new funding is coming into the game. Rugby, through sevens, will benefit from greater investment, profile and numbers of good athletes equipped to pass, catch and tackle.

Secondly, there are murmurings of a professional, domestic competition on the cards. Various ideas are thought to have been explored but the one with most traction is inviting English Premiership sides to set up franchised off-shoots in the US and fill them with a mix of their own academy and development players and emerging local talent.

Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, the IRB are inevitably going to be forced to move quickly and decisively after the World Cup to come up with a meaningful and sustainable fixture list for emerging Tier Two nations.

It simply won't be possible by the end of next year to pretend they are doing enough for emerging countries such as the US, Georgia, Samoa and Tonga. The World Cup, as it did in 2011, will highlight that the best Tier Two nations are loved for only six weeks in every four years.

The US, for example, are lucky to play six tests in any given year. It's not enough for them to build and develop game plans, skill-sets and continuity.

It hampers their ability to win sponsors, sell broadcast rights and grow the profile of the game.

"The All Blacks play 14 [tests]," says USA Rugby chairman Bob Latham. "England played a similar number last year, I think. If you look at next year-when there will be a World Cup-we won't play any tests in June and that is a problem. We will be trying to compete with Tier One nations at the World Cup and, yet, we only play a Tier One nation once a year and not in World Cup years."

Just as Argentina became the elephant in the room that could no longer be ignored after finishing third at the 2007 World Cup, so too will the emerging nations have their solution by 2016.

The US don't particularly mind what the international season looks like from 2016 as long as they gain access to better opposition and better financial returns. And in terms of putting pressure on the IRB, this week is huge. If the All Blacks - reigning world champions and biggest rugby brand on the globe - are prepared to play in Chicago, it's a powerful statement about the credibility of the US.

"They [All Blacks] are great ambassadors of the sport," says Latham. "The test will be a great opportunity for anyone [American] who has ever picked up a ball, or who has rugby in their soul, to celebrate and enjoy.

"I think a lot of people will see we are credible enough to host the world's best team and that the game will reveal the people who play this game have fantastic values."

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Oct 2014, 08:02
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26 Oct 2014, 08:02#2
Good to see optimism about US rugby as it is a big market & they have a lot of talented athletes. Problem is the competition from other sports, e.g. NFL. I remember seeing the Eagles play when I lived in the US - some good athletes but skills weren't there.
Back in the late '70s I played rugby in the Washington, DC area. There were a lot of "social teams", and I was on one of the most social. 
The situation showed the state of rugby in the US in many ways. A scenic field located next to the Potomac river. But the ground we played on was where the army barracks for the second world war were located so underneath that green grass there was plenty of brick & concrete. Symbolic of the state of the game, on the surface things looked good but underneath things were a shambles. Most American on the teams were going for the big hit (NFL style) & it was hard to teach the fineness of rugby to guys with the gridiron model in their heads. Hopefully rugby is attracting athletes with a mind-set that means they can learn & play the game. Rugby would be better off if the US was competitive in the top tier. It would help internationalize our sport.
Moz, are you going to the game ? If so you better brush up on your haka or if you are supporting the "other team" you better practice your  chant: U-S-A, U-S-A, lol 
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
30 Oct 2014, 12:05
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30 Oct 2014, 12:05#3
 or just be yourself Mozart
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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
30 Oct 2014, 17:13
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30 Oct 2014, 17:13#4
Let me begin by saying it is unlikely to ever happen. Knowing how set Americans are in their ways and traditions, how important and more than that, how institutionalized NFL, NBA and MLB are to them - I think rugby has a long path to walk in the USA before it even makes it onto a slot on one of the 3 or 4 dozen lesser known networks.  I have a fairly comprehensive TV package and I dont even get MLS (Major League Soccer) - doesn't even feature and soccer is about 1000 times bigger in the USA than rugby.

Go into any store selling sports regalia in the USA and ask them for a US Eagles rugby shirt. See the blank expression on their faces.

This all being said however, without a doubt in my mind - if rugby had to get 20% of the same support and thus same funding as NFL in the USA they would probably surge into the top 5 teams in the world without much effort. Whether you like the Americans or not - everything here is supersized including their sports sponsorships. With their bankroll they will recruit the best coaches and their talent scouts will steal the best talent in the world, simply on the promise of a pay check that nobody will be able to match.

I watched a college football game (college football chaps - not NFL) played between Alabama State University and University of Notre Dame. The Bryant-Denny stadium in Alabama which holds over 100 000 spectators was SOLD OUT. Not a seat in the house. Again, although these are two age old rivals - this is not even top flight football in the USA. The fanfare was also something to behold - even if you dont like football, the show would make it worthwhile going. Made me think of the 5000 people that pitch up to watch a rugby match at Kings Park on a Saturday and old Hugh Bladens voice....and how much money the Sharks are able to just get from that....

Again - without a doubt - just because of money - the USA would be one of the top countries in rugby in the world........IF THEY WANTED TO. That last bit will take a long, long time though because although they have rugby - nobody (or maybe 0.00001% of Americans) are really interested. Most Americans I speak to have a very vague idea of what it is at best.
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