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Rugby: TV deal will decide Super Rugby's fate; Gregor Paul, NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
29 Mar 2017, 02:23
#1
29 Mar 2017, 02:23#1

The rumour mill might be right and perhaps the Western Force are going to be chopped from next year's Super Rugby competition. It's not a bad guess.

The Force are being bankrolled mostly by the Australian Rugby Union and partly by the proceeds of a bit of a whip round earlier in the year that saw players and locals get down the back of their couches and see what loose change they could find.

The commodity boom has gone bust so Western Australia is no longer awash with corporate dollars for sponsorship and, not insignificantly, the Force have been just a little bit awful since their inception. If Australia is going to only have four teams in next year's competition, then the Force probably are the most vulnerable.

But while that's true and screams out as the right decision for the ARU to make, it is still guesswork whether this is actually what ends up happening.

What everything hinges on is, unsurprisingly, money and specifically preserving the value of the current broadcast deal. All Sanzaar member unions have agreed that any change they implement to next year's competition can't result in a reduction of broadcast income.

It is their view that a reduction of teams from 18 to 15 doesn't come with a reduction of content. The competition will still span the same time period and if anything, the reduction of teams - two being cut in Africa and one from Australia - will make more games of a more compelling nature than they currently are.

It is understood that New Zealand has already cleared the proposed changes with Sky and that the South Africans are not anticipating problems with their broadcast partner. But the position in Australia is not so clear.

Their broadcast partner, Fox, may not be so willing to accept the changes without a renegotiation on price. Taking less money is not an option for the ARU as it will be a regressive move that leaves them worse off than where they currently are.

Whatever money they will save by axing the Force can't be sucked up by a reduction in overall broadcast income. The equation of less teams and less money doesn't appeal.

But it's a scenario that will be tough to avoid as the Australian sports broadcast market is different: it is cut-throat competitive given the proliferation of choice in respect to football codes.

Fox don't need rugby to make a crust the way Sky do and while there is mounting speculation an announcement about the future of Super Rugby will be made early next week, it will only be happening if the broadcast situation in Australia has been resolved, which according to a statement releases by the ARU, it hasn't so far been.

"As announced by Sanzaar following the Sanzaar board meeting in London earlier this month, the four member nations have undertaken a period of stakeholder consultation to work towards an agreed outcome on the competition format for the 2018 season. This stakeholder consultation, which has included consultation with broadcast partners in each territory, is ongoing. At this point, there has been no determination on the future competition format or the teams involved in the competition.

"We also wish to confirm for the public record that no decision has been taken on the removal of one of Australia's Super Rugby teams. ARU, as a joint venture partner of Sanzaar, is working towards a final resolution in the shortest timeframe possible and will inform rugby fans as soon as an outcome is reached."

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
29 Mar 2017, 02:27
#2
29 Mar 2017, 02:27#2
 As some have said there are too many teams and IMO cutting them down to 15 is good.  Players have too many games and if they also if they are test level players the season in brutal. So less games should mean less games & hopefully less travel of teams.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,260 posts
29 Mar 2017, 02:50
#3
29 Mar 2017, 02:50#3
There is only 2 options
1. Reduce Teams (less revenue)
2. Tiered Tournament. ( hard to schedule)
Split comp into 2 rounds where the top teams play each other more often, and the bottom teams play each more often. 
Round OneStart with local derbies as round one. (sun wolves in AUS, and ARG int SA) 

The best three teams from each conference go into round three. (9 teams) Top 6 finishers of round three go into quarters. 
Bottom 3 play the winners of the Repercharge round 2 for a spot in the quarters.
Repercharge Round 2 (7 teams)The losing teams of the local three conferences local derbies (round one) go into a losers round two.

In the meantime, the top  teams would be in round three and play each other once. 
The top three (round 2) would they play the bottom 3 of round three (best teams) 

The repercharge ticket would keep interest in the tournament for the perennial bottom dwellers. 
Starting with local derbies will be a good start to the season- where all the teams will fight for seedings into round three.
Travel would be reduced by starting with local derbies to create a seeding for round two and three. (Who wants to wake up in the morning to watch the Kings gettings crushed in Christchurch)
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
29 Mar 2017, 03:47
#4
29 Mar 2017, 03:47#4
 ... yea its an interesting debate ...looks like the Force is gunna get the chop for sure and it will save a bit of mileage for us....pity they've got a better fan base than the Rebels and not good for Western Australian rugby in general... 
...also read ARU can't get rid of the REbels because it's privately owned and the ARU would have to pay Imperium Group millions or go to court..and ARU is already on the bones of their rses..
And despite rugby being on par with the popularity of ballroom dancing at 26th equal most popular sport in OZ there are actually a few good reasons why the Rebels are a better option...
....one could argue the Rebels play a more exciting attacking brand of rugby if you consider how close they ran the TAhs and the Chiefs to the wire this year...plenty of potential with Koribete and Naivalu out wide just starting to fire and Hodge not too shabby in the centres...

...Add to that the Rebels have had nine players named in the extended Aussie U20s side which bides well for their future.....Also enjoy how they're a smack in the face of an AFL dominated state...epitomising the mythical Aussie battler perhaps...Big pity they lost Higgenbottom to the REds though..one of their best players- bloody Reds, sons of sheep stealers typifying yr proverbial convict outfit.. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Mar 2017, 07:02
#5
29 Mar 2017, 07:02#5
 The final say in SA rest with Supersport - the chief broadcasting funder of the while competition.    For Sky and Fox rugby is a side show - for Supersport it is a major consideration.   Please note that DSTV (the owner of Supersport) with its interests in China, Scandinavia, Russia and Africa especially - has as wide a world wide spread as the other TV channels and  they have a stronger support base in rugby as well. 
So who owns that whole set-up?   It is actually Naspers and that in turn is a body which is not controlled by Government.   If you want to read what is going to happen in Rugby you should read Die Burger - the newspaper that was started in 1914 to serve the Afrikaans community - when Naspers were started.   The older Afrikaans generation apparently believed that the Bible could be wrong - Die Burger never was wrong.  
Over the last 30 years it has spread into the huge worldwide operations in the TV and communication field and they have become a massive financial force with operational assets worth as much as the budget of for instance the whole NZ Government.     
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
29 Mar 2017, 13:12
#6
29 Mar 2017, 13:12#6
 The commodity boom has gone bust so Western Australia is no longer awash with corporate dollars for sponsorship

That means time to terminate all SA rugby teams.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,260 posts
29 Mar 2017, 13:26
#7
29 Mar 2017, 13:26#7
 It is judgement day. Send Arnold Swartzneger from the future to terminate everyone
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