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Saffex - why don't you join the Foxs[ptrrt Fantasy Programme

Started by clevermike21 REPLIES280 VIEWS· 11 Aug 2014, 17:07
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2014, 17:07
#1
11 Aug 2014, 17:07#1

You did take part in the Test Rugby competition last year in the RC and did very well in that one - but the Foxpsort one is much more interesting and a greater challenge.  So why not go for Foxsport this year - or rather go for both?


The BS spouting Mozart, Bobzo the Ape and Ceradunce will never take part - because they frankly do not know anything about performance evaluation at all.   We can benefit from your know;edge in the competition.  

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:34
#2
11 Aug 2014, 20:34#2
Moz, Beeno & others, posters can create a "multi-id" to fly below the radar so to speak. 

We may have one such poster who has registered under a mysterious name.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:51
#3
11 Aug 2014, 20:51#3
Well I proved once that a simple computer model could win these things...after which there didn't seem to be much point. But by all means lets have Fat Dave making predictions along with Mike....hahahaha.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:56
#4
11 Aug 2014, 20:56#4
 Moz: please register as "computer model" or any other name you would like.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:57
#5
11 Aug 2014, 20:57#5
These fantasy rugby expert games measure the performance with only some of the data points. Additionally they treat all positions as the same. A prop could get buckled in every scrum, a lock could lose every ball thrown to them, but still do well in the fantasy reality. 
They are no reflection of rugby expertise. The best coaches in the world would choose different teams than what the fantasy league suggests are the best teams.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Aug 2014, 21:00
#6
11 Aug 2014, 21:00#6
Perhaps, but we are all playing by the same rules so each of us can take into account the points scoring system of Fantasy rugby. 
Anyway, it does result in more rugby enjoyment & you do learn a lot about the players.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 21:03
#7
11 Aug 2014, 21:03#7

Thanks JW I appreciate your sincere offer, but here's the thing....I hate betting against the Boks. My model won in part because it predicted the France win over the Boks in 2006, something no other entrant predicted. But honestly I never enjoyed being ambivalent about a Boks win.

 

So I'll pass on this one.   How about Rory though....what a player!

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Aug 2014, 21:23
#8
11 Aug 2014, 21:23#8
Just_Win, please note that Moffie doesn't understand the difference between a prediction pool (where you predict the winning team and the scores) and a Fantasy game (where you select a team of players who score points based on performance).
I did try to explain the difference to him once before but he's not bright enough to grasp the distinction . . . and here he is, literally years later, still thinking that you're talking about a prediction pool.
Good luck getting the pompous old fop to join something where his ignorance and bluster might be exposed. He prefers telling people after the game that he knew what was going to happen, who was going to win and who was going to perform.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Aug 2014, 21:26
#9
11 Aug 2014, 21:26#9
Rooi, I could be wrong but I don't think your line of reasoning will convince Moz to join, lol
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Aug 2014, 21:37
#10
11 Aug 2014, 21:37#10
He won't join anyway. Apart from not understanding the rather simple concept of Fantasy Rugby, he's cowardly by nature and wouldn't risk having his rugby ignorance exposed for all to see.
Trust me on this one.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 22:29
#11
11 Aug 2014, 22:29#11

Posted By Bokshark 9/11/2006

 

 

Well done Mozart on winning both sections of this comp.....

 

With Bonus...

 

1. Mozart 

2. BigBadKev

3. Beeno

4. Bokshark

5. Mad man 

6. Spook

7. John Valentine

.......................

.......................

12. Rooinek

.......................

.......................

.......................

31. Mike.

 

 

Without Bonus

 

1 Mozart

 etc

 

So much for never having the guts to enter anything. There were 47 participants....including golden names like kobkobdu, AdvanceAusFair, carljohn, cats r us (CC?), Groenbloed, AussieMad etc. Although to be honest as in all these things the ranks thinned rapidly after a few weeks.

 

This was the only one of these comps I entered. Frankly it's not rocket science if a simple little computer model wipes the competitive floor. I can do this, but it's not my thing. I'll try to kee p things real from the stands....think of me as a sort of video ref. Bwaaaahahahahahahaha.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Aug 2014, 22:55
#12
11 Aug 2014, 22:55#12
See what I mean, Just_Win, the blithering idiot is still on about prediction comps. Wehe!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2014, 23:29
#13
11 Aug 2014, 23:29#13
 You cannot make a rugby illiterate like Mozart get to participate in Fantasy selection of teams.  He believes the only function of a prop is to scrum and the only function of a lock is to take line out balls.   Avvording to him the only function of a flyhalf is to kick at goal and you can go on and on.  
Appatrently Sharkbok knows too little of the game as well.   "Additionally they treat all positions as the same. A prop could get buckled in every scrum, a lock could lose every ball thrown to them, but still do well in the fantasy reality."   Absolute rubbish - every player penalized  for poor play - whatever position they play in.   Buckiling in scrums leading to penalties cost player valuable points.  Losing onw throw line out balls gives added points to the opposing player.
The players who do not earn points are those who produce nothing - a prop who aside form scrumming does nothing in other format of play such as tackling, ball carries and making turnovers - even scoring tries.   Those who do nothing gets near to aero points.  Those who do the scrumming and do extra work outside scrumming gets points for both.
Fact is since Mozart and Ceradunce are rugby illiterates - with serious hanf-ups about certain non-performing players - they cannot take part in a competiotion where performance by players determine the  results of the competition itself.   Hell - Mozart does not even know the difference between Fantasy tyeam selection and final results of games - wha t a dunce.     

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 23:45
#14
11 Aug 2014, 23:45#14

And you are on about Fantasy Football an activity you would have found in almost every American Company since 1997....you poor dope. All the secretaries played and often won. I heard about all this way before you did and it never had any appeal. Still I'm glad you accept the prediction tournament results....in the past you have tried to deny them. Wehe!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 23:47
#15
11 Aug 2014, 23:47#15
Oom the very fact that you can have a hope of succeeding in Fantasy Football is enough to tell me it's not very cerebral. You are one dumb fella.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2014, 23:56
#16
11 Aug 2014, 23:56#16
 I can tell you that from a rugby perspective - you are the worst rugby performance evaluator that ever express an opinion on the game .  Dumb is not appropriate the real word for you is idiot.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 00:49
#17
12 Aug 2014, 00:49#17
 Oimatey has signed up
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
12 Aug 2014, 00:54
#18
12 Aug 2014, 00:54#18
JW, please put the instructions on how to sign up. Does SA Rugby have its own league?
I might try it out. The main reason that I do not do this for SuperXV is that I do not know enough about the Australian/New Zealand players- except for test level players.
I usually only watch the SuperXV games that contain South African players, and sometimes I dont even watch the away games when it is an SA team at the bottom of the table.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 01:10
#19
12 Aug 2014, 01:10#19
Sharkbok: here is the link to the instructions. How to sign up for RC fantasy rugby Scroll down the thread.
There is sarugby.com league under classic leagues; and sarugby.com head-to-head.


If the instructions are not clear let me know & I will post new ones. 


RC is easier to keep up with than s15 as there are fewer teams & most of us are interested in all of those playing. This year should be particularly interesting as the comp will be tougher & so will the related banter, lol



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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
12 Aug 2014, 01:23
#20
12 Aug 2014, 01:23#20
Ah, John Valentine ............... remember he had a daughter living in Zimbabwe & the oak was so worried about her safety . Hope they're all fine .
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2014, 01:55
#21
12 Aug 2014, 01:55#21
Many old names Blob....John was a nice guy. There were also chaps like wott, Caveman, Swift, Kercy, Hendrikp, Afan, footy, yster swart, shumba, logo, Jean Grey, Aile, thaynore, Underdog supporter, Spike, Jacov, John, LNLN, realist  .....and believe it or not a guy called blob!
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 12:42
#22
12 Aug 2014, 12:42#22
 
Never known Faggot to partake in any competition.

He's like an expat ... mouthing off from afar as to how its supposed to be done.

Besides ... he'll probably log on and then forget why he's there and wonder off down the street looking for nothing in particular.

Rather leave him be. It'll be no fun whipping this bozo anyway.

  
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