Captain30,741 posts
19 Oct 2022, 22:26
#1
19 Oct 2022, 22:26#1
It was about how good Mapimpi was on the last EOYT
But I was more impressed with how good de Allende was
https://fb.watch/gg4ZC2Bndk/
Saw this on Facebook
Started by Saffolk 27 REPLIES1,004 VIEWS· 19 Oct 2022, 22:26
Captain49,914 posts
19 Oct 2022, 23:40
#2
19 Oct 2022, 23:40#2
Dud Allende lost the English test with one of the worst defensive decisions ever.
Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2022, 00:04
#3
20 Oct 2022, 00:04#3
Bullshit he never lost us anything - and that clip clearly shows how impressive he was setting Mapimpi up for two of his tries
DA is a class act
Captain49,914 posts
20 Oct 2022, 02:25
#4
20 Oct 2022, 02:25#4
Not even Moses created a bigger gap than Dud.
sharkbok
Captain23,226 posts
Captain23,226 posts
20 Oct 2022, 02:56
#5
20 Oct 2022, 02:56#5
Delande made one good pass. The other one was a routine pass to Kolisi who setup the try for Mapimpi
Captain21,007 posts
20 Oct 2022, 09:21
#6
20 Oct 2022, 09:21#6
This is what i’ve been saying for years.
We’re so accustomed to DDA’s complete lack of fundamentals that when he completes a routine pass we perceive it’s genial.
Dave goes on and on about how important DDA is to the Bok game-plan and that we don’t understand the game. But refuses to answer or comment on why we don’t simply pick a guy like Roos at 12 if all we expect from our 12 is to carry into traffic.
Pro3,695 posts
20 Oct 2022, 11:50
#7
20 Oct 2022, 11:50#7
- Routine left short pass, straight line, easy pass. Not scoring pass
- Dud, stands deep, calling for it, no real movement, or dummy line running to compress the defence. Two great passes by Jantjies and Am with very quick hands.
- This one I would give him credit, he created space wide, took on a defender, hand off and then got the ball away. Mpimpi does really well to catch a dipping pass, not the cleanest but that was a 50/50 pass that could have been dropped.
The boks play very direct and Dud is great for that. He can punch holes into backlines and create opportunities for line breaks. But I still think if he could pass or even have a half the off load game of Sonny Bill, he would be lethal.
I know back in 2015 he was our best back and even better than Sonny Bill or Nonu.
Pro3,695 posts
20 Oct 2022, 11:52
#8
20 Oct 2022, 11:52#8
As for Mpimpi, somebody on here called him an athlete. That is true, he is a great finishers, running a straight line down the trams. Can beat the defender out wide.
Terrible marking and defender. Okay under the high ball, better at chasing and putting pressure on the catcher.
sharkbok
Captain23,226 posts
Captain23,226 posts
20 Oct 2022, 12:06
#9
20 Oct 2022, 12:06#9
If a player like Mapimpi is on the pitch, they need to go wide. He is a fantastic finisher, and actually has a strike rate higher than Habana's.
Although in tight games he can go missing in action.
Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2022, 12:30
#10
20 Oct 2022, 12:30#10
Bullshit you ignorant twats conveniently miss his break to set up Mapimpi with that great offload
DA is the best 12 in the game right now
Pro7,008 posts
20 Oct 2022, 14:30
#11
20 Oct 2022, 14:30#11
You see..... even I can see the love in this thread.....
Pro4,378 posts
20 Oct 2022, 16:42
#12
20 Oct 2022, 16:42#12
Ha ha ha !
Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2022, 21:12
#13
20 Oct 2022, 21:12#13
The truth about the try DA sets up using skill not the direct route
He attacks the outside shoulder and beats his man on the outside, yes the outside, then takes contact and in the process effects a lovely underhand offload to set up the Mapimpi try
Basically evidencing the fact that when the opportunity presents itself DA is adept at beating defenders through skill and not brute force
The man is a class act, appreciated by those in the know and who matter
Captain49,914 posts
20 Oct 2022, 22:39
#14
20 Oct 2022, 22:39#14
A total cock up which luckily was saved by Mapimpi…Dud should have fixed his man, and relied on Kolisi to do the same. Then there was an overlap.
He ran sideways, forcing Kolisi to switch inside and then he threw a blatantly forward pass….the ball was released outside the 22 and caught several steps inside the 22 by Mapimpi straining to catch a low ball well ahead of him.
And the ball was clearly released forward technically.
All the credit for that ‘try’ goes to Kolisi who made a splendid pick up at pace…..but it should have been called back.
Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2022, 23:06
#15
20 Oct 2022, 23:06#15
Moz I’m talking about the 3rd try in that clip not the first
As for the first it was not a forward pass as verified by the TMO
Good try DA and Kolisi do their jobs in putting Mapimpi away
But it’s DA’s class in setting up Mapimpi’s 3rd try that I am waxing lyrical about
Now let’s have your laughable attempt at debunking DA’s class in set that try up
Notice the outside break - so much for the utter horseshit you lot bang on about him lacking pace or only has an inside step
Pure class
Captain49,914 posts
21 Oct 2022, 00:03
#16
21 Oct 2022, 00:03#16
And I’m talking about the third try. Totally a forward pass….the ball left his hand before the 22, easily seen by stopping the action. Mapimpi after taking a full stride into the 22 has to reach way forward to collect it with one hand.
A completely bungled try rescued by the inept ref and TMO. The last try required nothing more than the first try…drawing two defenders and allowing an unmarked Mapimpi to trot in.
Captain30,741 posts
21 Oct 2022, 00:22
#17
21 Oct 2022, 00:22#17
Stop speaking shit Moz
If DA had not beaten the man on the outside there was no try - fact
Your take is a joke but very predictable
For me it’s just more evidence of DA’s skill and the shit you lot come up with regarding him.
He set that try up beautifully - classic centre play - beat the man on the outside, then commit the next defender and end with a sublime underhand offload - it was beautiful and that’s a fact
Pro2,380 posts
21 Oct 2022, 04:04
#18
21 Oct 2022, 04:04#18
Kingcorn, DDA was better than SBW and Nonu in 2015???
Are you serious??
Who was it then that stood DDA up and scored in the RWC semi final??
Could have sworn it was Nonu......
DDA is not even in the same street as those 2........
Captain49,914 posts
21 Oct 2022, 05:20
#19
21 Oct 2022, 05:20#19
Dud Allende tracked Nonu for 20 metres….the game was close enough to say that bit of non defence lost our chance at the WC. But of course many on here couldn’t see it.
Captain49,914 posts
21 Oct 2022, 05:21
#20
21 Oct 2022, 05:21#20
Dave even if everything you said is true….the pass was still forward. If the ball is released one handed from an arm fully extended and blocked by a competitor it’s very hard to pass back. Dud clearly didn’t.
Captain30,741 posts
21 Oct 2022, 11:14
#21
21 Oct 2022, 11:14#21
What nonsense Moz and certainly from the camera angles given you can’t say that was forward
Great try created by DA using skill not brute force
Captain49,914 posts
21 Oct 2022, 18:11
#22
21 Oct 2022, 18:11#22
I can say it was forward. Press the stop button….by making small shifts you can see the pass left his hand before the 22 and was caught 2 metres inside the 22
Captain26,388 posts
22 Oct 2022, 07:30
#23
22 Oct 2022, 07:30#23
"...see the pass left his hand before the 22 and was caught 2 metres inside the 22"
doesn't mean it's forward...depends on how fast they were running...it's all to do with the movement of the hands.
Pro5,061 posts
22 Oct 2022, 11:27
#24
22 Oct 2022, 11:27#24
Yes once in a Blue Moon DDA does create something.....he should try and do that more the least a person can expect of a 12.
Captain49,914 posts
22 Oct 2022, 20:39
#25
22 Oct 2022, 20:39#25
Movement out of the hand was forward…try passing it back when the ball is in one hand and the arm stretched full forward. Besides a ball doesn’t drift forward 2.5 metres on 5 metres pass. By analogy a 20 metre pass would then drift forward 10 metres by that logic. Ever seen one of those not called?
It was a forward pass missed by the officials.
Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2022, 18:30
#26
24 Oct 2022, 18:30#26
It was not forward at all, it was a great offload after a great outside break
A try beautifully created by DA
Captain49,914 posts
24 Oct 2022, 18:56
#27
24 Oct 2022, 18:56#27
Honesty is a beautiful thing….rare in these parts.
Captain30,741 posts
24 Oct 2022, 19:25
#28
24 Oct 2022, 19:25#28
No honesty in a biased observer telling us the ball was offloaded forward
Especially considering every try these days is scrutinised from every angle before eventually being awarded
Great work by DA and that’s a FACT - proving yet again that he is much more than the best traffic carrying 12 in the game
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