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Scanning the chat pages about Frans

Started by Mozart5 REPLIES125 VIEWS· 11 Jun 2014, 17:58
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jun 2014, 17:58
#1
11 Jun 2014, 17:58#1

Views seem to be 50/50. Some say you don't walk out on your team  4 days before a test. Others say, SARU obviously went back on a promise and its about time somebody faced up to the double dealing.  I must say if I worked in a country where there wasn't a merit system I'd be inclined to take the latter view. 

 

My own guess is things started to go wrong with the Frans knee issue and progressed from there. Frans doesn't strike me as an uncaring venal type. Money probably played a role, but in the end I'm guessing it was mostly about respect. So Frans told them to take a hike....hero or villain he remains the most charismatic character in Bok rugby....a "bad" boy in a group of conformists.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2014, 18:13
#2
11 Jun 2014, 18:13#2
 Mozart
"...  he remains the most charismatic character in Bok rugby."
Maybe in your view - but I think all of De Villiers. Habana and Etzebeth beats him by a mile in that respect.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Jun 2014, 18:22
#3
11 Jun 2014, 18:22#3
 Moz,  players play according contracts and not according to promises. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2014, 18:49
#4
11 Jun 2014, 18:49#4
 DD
Exactly =  SARU is suddenly the villain of the piece.  If there is anything in writing about "promises" then Steyn have every right in taking them to court for breach of promise,  If it was just verbal then Steyn could still take them to court - but the argument would be around performance and there were serious deficiencies in the latter regard.  He was paid a fortune running into millions for two years and produced very little in fact  He was poor in 2012 and since then injuries took him out in total for nearly 10 months.  He then came back this year and his performances range around the average bar - in 2013 way below par and this year statistically iffy - wore than any 12 in Super 15 in any SA team.        
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jun 2014, 19:10
#5
11 Jun 2014, 19:10#5
Draad I think you will find the contract is just the backdrop....in sports as in business there are many informal understandings.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2014, 19:15
#6
11 Jun 2014, 19:15#6
 Most of hom are based on performance and if that is absent - the undertakings is meaningless.  In Steyn's case the performances were absent - so any informal undertakings would not be hounored.  
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