Seems Mvovo is lined up to start

From SA Rugbymag 

Earlier this week, Coetzee lauded Combrinck’s performance at Ellis Park, and made special mention of his right boot. The Bok coach spoke about Combrinck as if the Lions winger was a good bet to start at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium.

Coetzee said that the right-footed Combrinck could offer the Boks a much-needed tactical-kicking option. He also suggested that Combrinck could be tasked with taking the long-range shots at goal.

On Monday afternoon, Mvovo continued to train with the Bok starting side. When the first high ball was launched on his wing, he dropped it.

Clearly the player is short on confidence at the moment. That is something Ireland will look to exploit in the high-stakes Test on Saturday.

Probable Springboks – 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Siya Kolisi, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Julian Redelinghuys, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jaco Kriel, 21 Rudy Paige, 22 Morné Steyn, 23 Ruan Combrinck.

 The quota system at work - so Coetzee is just folding and fulfilling the despicable role in the relevant regard -  what an idiot.

Should this really be of any surprise to any of us?? There are better players of colour than Mvovie.  

 Exactly, Monster ... the fool can't even get his quota picks right ... 

 CC - Spot-on in this case.

The IRB are such spineless ar5eholes. How do they allow this a quarter of a bloody century after apartheid ended!? It really is all about profit. I think CC might be right in saying that we need ro boycott Springbok games.

It does raise some conspiracy questions. 
During Apartheid the rand was one of the stronger currencies- and SA had more natural assets per square kilometre than any other place in the world. 
The sanctions prevented more development of secondary and tertiary industries- particularly on the international side of things. 
This may SA more dependent on primary industry- and selling natural resources at a good price to America, UK and whoever else.  (Instead of say development manufacturing and selling the finished product- rather than the raw asset)
A major contradiction is that the countries running the sanctions were very selective in the application. 
It was fine to buy primary assets at low prices from South Africa- but not secondary and tertiary industries? 
This causes SA to be overdependent on primary industry and deplete natural resources- instead of development secondary and tertiary resources. 
SA was able to "sometimes" buy secondary and tertiary industries from international countries. (Probably at extortionate prices- as the sanctioners were selling out their principles for an extra mark up fee)
(This was either before I was born- or sometime afterwards- so correct me if I am wrong). 

 

SB

As an older person I can state that SA was forced to become self-sufficient because of sanctions in many industrial spheres - so industry grew at a faster rate than it would normally have done.  These included the production of defense items - which then went on to produce for instance engines for tractors and heavy duty vehicles. 

There were also measures against dumping - and no cheap stuff imported from China for instance.  Since 1994 the textile and clothing industries collapsed in a heap. 

Food production declined drastically as well.  Before 1994 the Government was active in faming in for instance the Transkei, by providing mechanical help, seeding funds and extension officers.  That has vanished completely and maize production in the Transkei has collapsed in a heap and virtually nothing is produced at present.   The farms brought out by Government for land redistribution also fell off the table - same as in the then Transkei.   

There were many things wrong with apartheid - it was an inhuman system - but in general the Blacks were better off from an employment perspective than they are at present - there never was more than 8 million unemployed as is the case at present.   Education has in fact also deteriorated - partly because of corruption and partly because of the trade union SADTU.  

No wonder many of the older Blacks (inclusive of King Goodwill Tswelethini of the Zulus) say frequently they were better off under the previous regime than they are at present.   I am not in favour of apartheid - I am in favour of honest governance.  The present Government has many wonderful schemes to improve the economy - but nothing really materializes - the billions allocated just vanish through corruption and theft.

As a result the Public Protector is working overtime and only scratching the surface.  Madontsela is leaving that position in October this year and most South Africans want her to stay on, but that is constitutionally not allowed.   The ANC would want to appoint a dummy in her place – but they need 240 votes in Parliament – but they only have 232 so the appointment is likely to be a hot potato.

It is interesting that in opinion polls the ANC is facing huge voter support loss in the Metros and is likely to lose control in Pretoria and PE – and there are other urban areas where they are also in serious decline.  When the Blacks heard about the nomination of the Mayor Candidate for Tshwane – the rioters said they don’t want a Zulu – they said she should go back to Nkhandla.   She is a respected person  with no signs of incompetence and corruption – but the Pretoria residents regard her as a Zuma plant. 

      

          

CM I believe SA was very self-dependent. A prime example was the ability to turn coal into oil. 
What I think was that the international community like America and the UK used sanctions at the bargaining table very selectively. 
This held SA back internationally at the bargaining table. It seemed to be a selective application of sanctions- ie. only apply them in some cases. (It was ok to buy natural resources- but not secondary or tertiary industry).

 SB - what is very problematic in SA at present is the millions of economic migrants in SA.  They are from the neighbouring countries and countries like Somalia and Nigeria.  Those people have small businesses in Black areas (especially the Somalians) and are into all kinds of illegal practices.  Most illegal migrants are working illegally for employers who pay them a pittance - robbing local workers from jobs.  There will be no peace in SA while that situation lasted = constan t upheavals like in Pretoria this week is to be expected.