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Selections at the heart of the Springboks’ woes; by Paul the ROAR

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Sept 2014, 08:40
#1
23 Sept 2014, 08:40#1

Captaincy on the rugby field is a revered responsibility. Yet, for all its importance it is an intangible concept, what is leadership?

Is leadership the ability to motivate, or the willingness to set a standard and elevate those around you to adhere to it? Although opinions might differ on the attributes of a captain, there is consensus on the importance of this character on the rugby field and within a team.

As Harry Jones shared a few weeks ago in a vividly descriptive recollection of bygone days, he viewed his own election as captain surprising and polarising in the traditional Afrikaans community of Stellenbosch, given his long hair and English background.

Importantly, though, his coach supported him in his role and this allowed him to act capably in leading his team.

In Test rugby, the responsibility of the captain extend beyond the rugby field. Captains are ambassadors for their sides and address the media in conferences and interviews. A successful captaincy finds this steward inextricably linked to the image and aura of the team.

Who could think of the All Blacks without imagining their inspirational leader Richie McCaw, or the ’95 Boks without seeing Francios Pienaar shaking hands with Madiba?

In contrast, when teams struggle with consistency in captaincy it can be a tempestuous time with numerous ramifications. Before Mike Hooper took over captaincy of the Wallabies this year they had seen Will Genia, James Horwill, David Pocock, Ben Mowen and Stephen Moore assume the responsibility in a span of three years.

Certainly the lack of consistency was an area of concern for the Wallabies and although Hooper has his critics I believe at this point continuity in that role is more beneficial than the person in question.

The All Blacks need only a cursory mention in this regard as their captain McCaw has been a granitic foundation and a talisman of inspiration for them. In his 131 Tests he has only lost 13 times.

People struggle to get similar results on math Tests let alone professional sport. Statues will be erected of this man I have no doubt, and the All Blacks certainly consider him a national treasure.

What about the Springboks? Hampered by injuries to key players, overseas unavailability (Jaque Fourie) and Frans Steyn’s contractual dispute, this year has been shaky to say the least for the Boks.

Narrow victories over Wales and Argentina raised concern and their recent losses in Australasia have caused division among supporters, with some advocating positivity and others (*cough* Biltongbek) lamenting the Bok gameplan.

Jean de Villiers returned from injury at the start of this year’s Rugby Championship and resumed captaincy since. Heyneke Meyer trialled Jean at the start of his coaching tenure in 2012 and then in 2013 made a firm commitment to him as his preferred captain.

I can understand Meyer’s initial choice to choose De Villiers as captain in his debut season as coach. At the time he was a veteran player and respected senior member of the squad and Meyer needed someone trustworthy and reliable as a captain.

However, valid questions were raised at the choice of captaincy since Francois Steyn was perceived as the incumbent 12 for South Africa. Indeed, the availability of more qualified players at inside centre has actually seen de Villiers shift to 13.

Although I have great respect for Jean de Villiers and his abilities as a player and captain, I did have reservations about his initial selection as captain and I question his role in the context of next year’s World Cup.

In 2008 Pieter de Villiers assumed coaching responsibility from World Cup winning coach Jake White who was inexplicably ousted by SARU. Many advocated the selection of Heyneke Meyer at the time but eventually de Villiers, as he became known, was selected as the man for the job.

I could write another article about his inadequate credentials and controversial statements but I would rather limit my personal reflection of trauma. de Villiers convinced John Smit to return to Test rugby as captain even though he had left to play in France, making way for the physically superior and younger Bismarck du Plessis. You might have heard of him.

Upon Smit’s return concessions were made to include Du Plessis, culminating in the farcical move of Smit to the position of prop in 2009. Baffling decisions aside, in 2009 the Springboks experienced one of their most successful seasons ever with a series win over the Lions, three consecutive wins over the All Blacks (including their last home defeat) and a Tri Nations title.

However, not everyone was convinced that Pieter de Villiers was steering the ship. Speculation arose that senior Springbok players Fourie du Preez, John Smit and Victor Matfield were assuming the coaching responsibilities and largely dictating game plans. Eventually Smit moved back to his preferred position of hooker and de Villiers was a lame duck with an ageing captain whose selection relegated the world’s best hooker to the bench.

The Springbok spin doctors were hard at work keeping up appearances. Gary Gold wrote a statistically laden defence of Smit’s selection at prop, which I perceived as a desperate justification of a poor selection choice.

In 2011, against the All Blacks, Bizzie was replaced by Smit in the 60th minute after a blistering game and he was seeing leaving the field incensed, muttering expletives. No need to worry kids, mommy and daddy aren’t fighting.

The Springboks had backed themselves into a corner. They hedged their bets on an ageing captain whose leadership ability ultimately couldn’t justify the exclusion of a more superior player in his position.

Simply put, the Springboks were forced to travel to the 2011 World Cup with one of their best players on the bench because their captain needed to be on the field. During this time there was constant mention of Smit’s mystical abilities as a captain and the need for his inclusion (some pointing to the calming effect of his return to the field in the first Test against the Lions in 2009), but I was unconvinced.

I find myself in a similar state of apprehension and doubt as we approach the 2015 World Cup. Jean de Villiers is 33 and has played a 100 Tests for the Springboks. He is a good player, but in current form he is failing to make the impact he once did a few years ago.

Although a solid defender he is utterly without imagination on attack – if you saw him offload in a tackle you‘d want to check that hell hadn’t frozen over. He rarely sidesteps and as his years advance his speed is diminishing.

Enter Jan Serfontein, a young man who is fearless in defence is an exceptionally strong ball carrier. I see in him a special talent and ultimately the future of the inside centre position for the Springboks. And don’t tell me that the solution is to move Jean to outside centre.

Sure, he might be capable in that position but he is not our best player in that position. I have been utterly perplexed this year that we went on tour without a specialist outside centre and the continued omission of Juan de Jong in the context of this cavernous vacancy is nothing short of negligent.

The reason for my concern as we approach the World Cup is that I believe the Springboks are at a similar crossroads to 2011. We see a slow, ageing player who is selected not for his ability but instead because the coach persisted for too long in his selection as captain and sees no alternative so close to the looming tournament.

As I mentioned initially captaincy is an abstract entity, ill defined and not easily deconstructed. Its importance is paramount, and neglecting this can be disastrous. Many considered Nick Mallet’s omission of Gary Tiechmann in favour of a young Bobby Skinstad in the 1999 Springbok World Cup squad to be a grave error.

I believe the Springboks have other capable candidates for the position of captaincy, among them Adrian Strauss. I believe Jan Serfontein deserves to start at inside centre and that maximal game time is required in order to cultivate him prior to next year’s World Cup.

Some of you might suggest that De Villiers is still finding his form following injury, but I’m unconvinced. At some point there needs to be a changing of the guard and this necessity can’t be clouded by sentiment. Select the best players based on merit, not because you made the mistake of backing a losing horse.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Sept 2014, 08:49
#2
23 Sept 2014, 08:49#2
Boks woes well chronicled. It is hard enough to win tests without a comedy of errors in selection of coaches & players. 
IMO De Villiers as captain is not the problem he is a good captain although still not back in form yet.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
23 Sept 2014, 08:50
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23 Sept 2014, 08:50#3
At the end of 2015 we might all be saying that we should have replaced Jean Devilliers. Like the article is suggesting, we could end of with another John Smit situation. 
I would rather have an old Matfield than an old Devilliers. 
Matfield at least is still the best lineout foward in the world is jumping and organising the lineout. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2014, 09:25
#4
23 Sept 2014, 09:25#4
 JW
This is somewhat of a mixed up article - and removed from reality in at least two respects.   It started off with Francois Steyn being played at 12 in 2012 and De Villiers at 13.   Francois Steyn was definitely a dead loss at 12 in 2012 - and he was injured.  De Villiers never was a natural 13 and he was less effective in that position.   The idea to select Francois Steyn - based on reputation - was something that should never have been - and both players were as a result ineffective.   Coupled to the poor performances of Morne Steyn at 10 - the Springbok backline was in jeopardy.
Then it refers to the the problem with Steyn before the commencemnt of the June tests this year without regard to Steyn's performances in Super 15 over the past two seasons.   He was a dead loss in both seasons and that is a fact as well.   Even if they tried to play Steyn in the June tests it would have been a disaster.   We would in all likelihood lost both tests against Wales as a result.   
The other issue is raising the Juan de Jongh issue.   He indeed plays for the Stormers/WP at 13 - but the  articles lose sight of two issues.   When De Jongh was given the opportunity to play for the Springboks at the end of 2012 - he was atrociously poor - matter of fact he went AWOL in both tests he played in.   De Jongh  has always had serious problems - he is not a strong enough player to create space to operate in for himself as well as for others.  He is about as cluless as you can get from an attacking perspective.  His only ability is to finish off  well when othrs have done the hard yards.   His main weakness over the past two seasons for the Stormers his defense was the worst of any SA center in Super 15.  Even to think to play a player like De Jongh in the Springbok tem is utterly ridiculous.  
My other concern with the article is the correct way it deals with  De Villiers's role as captain.  A plsyer should be in the team on merit before being made a captain.   De Villiers was in very good form in 2013 and exceptionally poor form this year.   One can argue along the lines that he was injured and has not yet recovered his form yet.   However, the main issue here is if De Villiers is already 33 yers of age - and the question remains - will at that age he wil be able to recover his good form of last year?   The fact that he is the captain should not make him an automatic selection to the team - his good performance should. 
The answer is obvious - if De Villiers continues in present vein - he should be replaced as captain in the EOYT - meaning at the same time he should not continue as a Springbok.        
   
     
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Sept 2014, 11:14
#5
23 Sept 2014, 11:14#5
Jake white should still be our coach. He could have been our Fergie! 
Meyer has gone backwards and that is there for the whole world to see. He started out by picking form players to win the public over and then gradually he caused the teams deterioration.
I know cricket and rugby are two different sports, but geez how well did Smithy do for us as captain? Say what you like about the guy but at the age of 26 he was  already a colossus in the world game...and he brought the Proteas more success than any other captain. I doubt we will ever have better, unless we follow the same policy. The reason being that he was chucked in the deep end at a young age and was already a highly experienced captain whilst only in his mid twenties. IE we then had another seven years of Smith who knew his role inside out and who was still young and skillful enough to lead from the front. 
Why have we never applied that policy in rugby? Seems the Boks only want to pick captains that are in their late twenties and only have a few years left. Therefore naturally creating the above described dilemma over and over again.
So if i am gonna go way out on a limb and try to think of which players from the current crop that could be the Bok's Smith i would say...Marcel Coetzee, Oupa Mohoje or Cobus Reinach. Have left out Pollard because i am scared haha.
But the above won't happen. The Boks will have Adrian Strauss as their next captain, who also only has 3 years left in him. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2014, 11:54
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23 Sept 2014, 11:54#6
 Plum
I agree with you about the issueof captaincy - but think there are a number of requirements for a captain to meet and those are the following:-
*   He must be an automatic choice for team selection on merit*   He must have the respect of his team members*   He must have leadership qualities*   He must be a good public relations person.
The third cissue is in the professional era very improtant.  
Now let slook at the issue of merit selection.   Graeme Smith was in the Proteas team on merit.   When he got appointed as captain initially - he was raw in the job - and it took him some time (at least two years) to grow into the captaincy role - which he did.   He was a very good captain when in his prime - but towards the end of his playing career he remained a good leader - but he lost it as a merit selection player.   Now lets look at the Springbok team.  when you look at the team age itself - mot of the players are over the age of 29 - the present age of Strauss.   It really is a silly situation resulting from non-repacement of the older reutation selected playes.   Some are downright poor - but remains in the team.   With only a limited number of younger players - how do you find a player wih the necessary leadership qualities amongst the younger players? 
With the Aussies it is eas y - the avergae age of their preset team is not much higher than the age of Hooper - so they are in the same range of experience as is their captain.   Any younger captain in SA will be somewhat like 6 to 7 years younger than most of the temam members.    Will the elderly players respect a younger captain - hard to say.
You mentioned Mohoje, Reoinach and Pollard.   The question remains are they good enough to warrant automatic selection to the team.   I am pretty confident that Pollard and Reinach is - but have serious reservations about Mohoje.  He has a long list of competitors for the loosie position - and most of them are actually better players than he is.   Think about players like Arno Botha, Jacques du Plessis, Warren Whiteley, Lappies Labuschagne, etc.   
I think that Whiteley has the required leadership abilities and so does Pollard.   But will it work out?  Do Marcel Coetzee and Cobus reinach have those abilities - I am not at all sure.
The problem relates partly to the present composition of the team.   Since Meyer was appointed the average age of the players have gomne over 30 years of age - partly because his constant harking back to the past.   The situation at present is as bad as it was in 2010 and 2011 - when the senior players ran the team - not the coach.   That kead to selection of players on anything but merit - are we close to that situation now?   I think so - and that is no good froom a future team development point of view.
As stated - I agree with your viewpoint on the captaincy issue - but to my mind it can only be corrected through a more comprehensive review of the team selection that would assure that a big enough pool of younger players is available from which ha captain could be picked.            
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Sept 2014, 12:12
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23 Sept 2014, 12:12#7
 You are right Mike. So ultimately Meyer has created too many problems cor anything to be sorted out without overhauling a good section of the team. I mean I wouldn't want the guys job, but damn it man everyone can see the Boks are in reverse...with no tail lights!
Just really afraid of putting all my hopes on Pollard. But hey, it won't be the first time a fly half turned out to be a good captain. I do like the idea of Reinach though. He has rugby blood that kid.
You're also right about Mohoje, I included him mainly for leaderwhip credentials. He seems to have that aura of "gather up boys...kom ons gaan donder hulle". I like that.
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