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Sharks below par and lose

Started by Beeno111 REPLIES176 VIEWS· 06 Apr 2012, 02:00
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Apr 2012, 13:46
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06 Apr 2012, 13:46#1

It seems the sharks like many other sides before them lost their way becoming very fconfused and rustratwed by a one eyed nz ref.

two nz tries were extremely doubtful. mcleod scored and it was not given. This is an example of the consistent bias.

Pity game was spoiled by another dubious ref display by the mongs down under. Yes sharks did themsleves no favours either with some of their own play perhaps due in some part to the frustration experienced. The handbags stuff arose also because of frustration with ref.

Sharks need to get Lambie back and of course Bismark. Burden should be tried as a back or loose forward in place of wee keegan.

Jackson, a BL in the making, looks like a nz ref of the year candidate?

 

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
06 Apr 2012, 14:09
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06 Apr 2012, 14:09#2

It's the same old problems and today they were exploited. Bismarck would have made no difference whatsoever, likewise Lambie.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Apr 2012, 14:34
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06 Apr 2012, 14:34#3
Given Michalak butchering a couple of tries that would have made a difference. Also leaving out of the team the worlds premier hooker didn't help. But the score vastly flatttered the hurricanes and shows again how difficult it is to play against 15 men and the ref and tmo.
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
06 Apr 2012, 15:29
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06 Apr 2012, 15:29#4

 The Hurricanes did well with what little possession they had - they certainly did not need the ref to win!

The ref though is shocking and so one sided in his decisions - would have loved to see what the Sharks would have done with ball in hand at the 5metre line had the ref favoured the attacking side. I cringed everytime he blew his whistle!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Apr 2012, 16:19
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06 Apr 2012, 16:19#5

Hakwa you are a gentlemen.  I just wish more nzders would appreciate how badly this sort of ref reflects on them and put an end to these bandits. I mean folk all around the world watch these matches.

 

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sitting bullClub Pro170 posts
06 Apr 2012, 17:38
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06 Apr 2012, 17:38#6

..haha moonbean like dog barking up same tree again .. moonbean lame like horse, blame ref...can't tell  kiwi frm sth african wat a dodo bird...hurricane tribe has moonbean in a twister  haha ...sharks make good fish and chips and prized necklace..

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Apr 2012, 22:56
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06 Apr 2012, 22:56#7

 What a frustrating side the Sharks are to watch. They dominate possession, create the play then concede a penalty through sheer stupidity. As for the mistackles, it was pathetic that an average Canes side broke through so easily at times. 

While Michlak had his moments, he does often take the wrong option by running into traffic when clearly his size is never going to assit him in this regard. McLeod is too slow with his wind up before passing. Whitehead again showed what a handy player he is with 3 breaks. As Justin Marshall said this kid is a handful and easily the best Shark on the park. JP had his moments, but it was dissapointing that after a Whitehead break JP decided to run into traffic instead of stepping the defender. I really do not get what people see in Viljoen, he is ponderous.

Burden had a good game, as did Daniel. Chadwick needs to wake up and learn the rules, he gives away too many penalties. As good as Alberts was last game, he was poor today. His bulk makes it easy for players to step him and he was exposed today at times.

A shocking performance by the Sharks, when they are clearly a better side than the Canes, but completely blew it with stupidity and poor option takings. Why on earth sub your best back for Joubert with 10 to go?

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canrugbyClub Pro640 posts
06 Apr 2012, 23:11
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06 Apr 2012, 23:11#8

Sharks shot themselves in the foot countless times. But, the reffing was terrible.

 

Also, Beeno makes a good point. People are watching that game all around the world. reffing needs to be up to par.

 

Question. Why was it not an ozzie ref reffing that game? Like a Kiwi ref would ref a SA team against an Ozzie team.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Apr 2012, 23:14
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06 Apr 2012, 23:14#9

 Yes he was a shocking ref, but that does not detract from the fact that the Sharks were plain bloody stupid today.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
06 Apr 2012, 23:26
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06 Apr 2012, 23:26#10

It's just how it goes. There was a South African ref between the Cheetahs and Saders. Was a good ref. Kiwis are atrovious refs. Just stick with Saffers or NH refs.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Apr 2012, 08:29
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07 Apr 2012, 08:29#11

 

There were two things about he game of the Sharks that are vrery similar - namely the shocking display of the teamn and the shocking display of the referee.   The team should learn to read the way the laws are interpreted by the referee and adjust their play to prevent what happened yesterday.

However, that does not take away the fact that the referee should not just penalize the Sharks when there are culprits on both sides.   It is amazing that at least four times the Sharks are penalized for holding ontot the ball five yards out - when the real culprits are Hurricanes preventing the ball from coming out.    The real problem here is that under such circumstances - unless they isolate themselves and there are defenders capabale of taking the ball legally - it is the defenders preventing the ball from coming out - after all there was no chance that the Hurricanes could get the ball out legally.   Under such circumstances the general rule is that the attacking side is awarded a scrum or the defenders are blown up for preventing the ball from coming out.   However, the Hurricanes could hang onto the ball without being penalized even when they were in fact isolated and hanging on.   

Then the scrumming penalties - they were really baffling.   Time and time again the referee penalized Du Plessis when the opposing prop was the one that went downon his elbow.   No wonder Jannie was baffled by the decisions.

This is once again a very good reason for neutral referees - the fact is that the New Zealand referees are poor and useless and the Aussies are not much better.   I would say only Walsh figure in the top ten international referees and the new Zealand referees are hockingly bad.

Do they all take lessons from BL?

In any event in most cases the Sharks messed things up badly and they have themselves to blame largely for the loss - so do not only blame the referee.   For one thing is sure - the defence was useless in the extreme and the missed tackles were shocking.    The second problem wqas handling errors and predictability of play - making it easy for the referee to dish out penalties for imaginable transgressions.

 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Apr 2012, 14:53
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07 Apr 2012, 14:53#12

 Agreed Mike, Jannie was incorrectly fingered

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