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Sharks player ratings vs Saders

Started by Mozart21 REPLIES312 VIEWS· 30 Jul 2014, 23:00
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2014, 23:00
#1
30 Jul 2014, 23:00#1

I can't find any formal ratings and after viewing the match again I'm comfortable taking a stab.

 

SP Marais 5  ....he tried, inaccurately at times with careless offloads, but he was one of the players who gave it a go. And he beat a few tackles

 

JP Pietersen 4....our big guy seemed determined not to tackle their big guy, as Nadolo left JP for dead twice. He did put in a massive hit on Crotty, but was largely awol.

 

Jordaan 3....missed Read right at the start, saved by Kankowski, then missed him disastrously to effectively end the game. He struggled in a bunch of other tackles.

 

Frans 6...a poor touch miss and a direct kick out marred his game. But he put in a huge hit on Ellis, twice took Nadolo down in full flight, once after Lambie missed. He was the only tackler back to try and stem the tide on the Nadolo try. He got little ball but offloaded well once.

 

Mvovo 4....another callow display. He slowed to pass to  a lock when put away, instead of challenging his man. Botched two kicks when moved to fullback. Was he even trying.

 

Lambie 3....botched penalties, botched goal kicks botched line kicks, botched tactical kicks. Weak tackles on Nadolo and on Heinz when he scored. Put into a barndoor gap, he did manage to hold Crotty, but passed too early.

 

Reinach 5....two nice runs, but caught by Whitelock along the touchline after he looked to be free. He was missing at the base of the first three rucks.....standing at centre when Ellis conjoured up the Nadolo try. Not one of his kicks put any pressure on the Saders and he kicked straight out once and he conceded a dumb penalty for points.

 

Jannie 6....was bested by Crocket in the minute 42 scrum, but was dominant in the minute 9.00 scrum. The Sharks were solid on all their other scrums and dominant in some. The only other poor scrum was at minute 47 when du Toit was bested by Franks. Jannie did his job.

 

Bismarck 5....a good turnover and he tried hard, but he was never allowed to physically dominate. One or two poor lineout throws.

 

Du Toit 6....not the dominant performance of the Landers match, but he was up agianst the best tighthead in the world at 19 years old....and he generally edged the battle. He was lively in the loose as well, but botched one kickoff with his jumper. All in all this kid continues to amaze. Cleared the ruck for the awol Reinach at minute 39.00 and didnt hesitate to do so...remarkably steady between the ears.

 

Alberts 5....he is not a lock though he took some lineout ball. Made some big tackles as noted by the commentators, but largely quiet.

 

Lewies 3....was robbed on several occasions by Whitelock....anonymous in the tight loose.....not a physical presence at all. And the ball was ripped out of his hands at minute 43.

 

Marcell Coetzee 6 .....based largely on his first 15 minutes. After that he gradually disappeared. One nice penalty by ripping at the ball....but no clean turnovers. He wasnt really a factor on the deck apart from the penalty.

 

Deysel 4....the kind of disappointing  game he plays so often when he cant dominate physically. Lost the ball twice

 

Kankowski.....6 stopped Read after Jordaan missed him in the 22. took 4 lineouts and threw a stellar pass to spring the Sharks. His handling was superb. And by the slightest margin I would give him the award as the best Shark.

 

None of the subs were great, but McLeod added some crispness. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Jul 2014, 23:18
#2
30 Jul 2014, 23:18#2
Ha ha Moz; you know the player ratings were posted on SArugby.com From memory we had both Planet rugby & Rugby 365 ratings
Still, I am sure everyone is interested in your impartial ratings
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2014, 23:23
#3
30 Jul 2014, 23:23#3
Can't bring them up on Google. Still you are right JW, mine probably have more gravitas.  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Jul 2014, 23:56
#4
30 Jul 2014, 23:56#4
Here is the ToW for Planet Rugby semi finals.
Team of the week - Planet Rugby
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
31 Jul 2014, 00:04
#5
31 Jul 2014, 00:04#5
It seems that the Sharks went on tour but the bag containing all of the players brains was lost in transit. Seems to happen to the Sharks in semi finals so often.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2014, 00:10
#6
31 Jul 2014, 00:10#6
Mozart
What a load of BS.  Your ratings are as false as they can be.
You have so many dubious ratings it is unbelievable.  Steyn did bugger all all match long - yet he gets a 6.   He was too slow to keep up with Lambie - the forwards were faster - he missed two tackles badly and contributed through a poor tackle attempt on Salde allowing him to off-load and the Nadolo try.   Four at best - but even that is a joke.  That poor effort was equal to Jordaan's effort on Read.  Steyn never was anywhere near where the action was - he dropped behind the speedier players.
Jordaan's tackles were no worse than that of Steyn - matter of fact he was responsible for one tackle that led to a penalty converted by Lambie - so as false a presentation as you can possible make. 
Reinach - balls and a bunch of false accusations again.    Lie about him not been at the rucks and lied about him not kicking pressure kick as well.   A number of times he fell back to cover for opposition kicks - so that accounts for his absence from the rucks.  He made at least one kick that where the players who followed up the return kick charged the opposition kick down and Jordaan caused a penalty for the Sharks.Reinach's service was crisp and very good - he started most of the few attacking plays by the Sharks.   Made one kick directly into tough - the rest of your summary is BS.
Lanmbie - Incidentally Heinz's try came from a serious balls up by Mcleod - Lambie was not anywhere near to try and stop it.      
Alberts -  Took exactly 1 line out ball - not some - and he made 4 tackles and missed 2.  Played his normal low work rate game - where did you get the 5 points from?  Incidentally Alberts is not a lock - he is not a loosie either.    He played for 25 minutes as a loosie and did squat during that time too.
What crispness did McLeod add?
It is a pity that you assessments of performances is so putrid that it does not reflect what happened during the game at all.     The players you like get good ratings the others you condemn.  Your rating of Reinach is a joke in bad taste.

   
TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
31 Jul 2014, 01:02
#7
31 Jul 2014, 01:02#7
 "Reinach's service was crisp and bery food"

He should have played scrumhalf instead of waiter. Maybe the Sharks would have had a better chance?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2014, 01:14
#8
31 Jul 2014, 01:14#8
Very true Truth....or perhaps he was very crisp the few times  he was behind the ruck. I counted four times he wasn't, with disastrous consequences in the Nadola try. When a scrumhalf has props standing in for him he is definitely being careless. Still with the OOM the old saying applies, you can  lead a mule to water, but you can't make him drink.
JW I'm almost embarrassed to do this, but for your own sake it has to be done....be mindful of the difference between the TOW and the player ratings. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2014, 01:29
#9
31 Jul 2014, 01:29#9
Oom the tackle Steyn made in the Nadola try was the only one the Sharks made, because Steyn was the only Sharks player to react to the break. He made it from behind, expecting him to prevent the offload in a diving tackle from behind makes it seem like you don't like him.
As for the Ellis try, look at it closely and you will see it was fed in properly by McLeod at let " out the gate" by the loosehead sub. Lambie then gave Ellis a high massage on the way in, instead of going low which was the only option. 

You remain a tonic though with your laughable opinions
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2014, 07:03
#10
31 Jul 2014, 07:03#10
 Mozart
Let face facts - if Heinz scored that try with Reinach on the field - your hysteria would have been unlimited.   You are a fool insofar as performance evaluation is concerned or you vision is so biased nobody can rely on your assessments.
You are trying to excuse a ridiculously poor tackle attempt by Steyn on Slade. If this was the first time it happened that Slade played the fool with Steyn - it would have been understandable, but in the previous Sharks match Slade did the same and scored a try himself.   Fact is that tackle attempt was anytime as bad as JJ's were last year - but that of course will never be admitted by you..    Keep on making player performance assessments -  it is always good for a laugh because it is funny to see how far a rugby illiterate can delude himself and try to delude others as well . .  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Jul 2014, 08:21
#11
31 Jul 2014, 08:21#11
Moz: sorry to cause you distress re having to make the painful observation about the difference between ToW and player ratings, lol I believe I will recover from the trauma of your observation
Like you I could not find the player ratings for the sharks, my impression was they were so bad why bother. So as usual you are performing a valuable & thankless task for the forum. Surely everyone appreciates your efforts?
FO
ForeverArizonaClub Pro580 posts
31 Jul 2014, 08:23
#12
31 Jul 2014, 08:23#12
 Yeah Mike and you are so in love with De Allende that you cant see past his errors.But anyway...same old drivel.ITs so fucking boring now.
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
31 Jul 2014, 08:28
#13
31 Jul 2014, 08:28#13
 Who cares it was a week ago Crusaders smashed Sharks end of.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2014, 09:23
#14
31 Jul 2014, 09:23#14
 3ku1
My money is on the Waratahs this week though.
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
31 Jul 2014, 10:37
#15
31 Jul 2014, 10:37#15
 Well coincidentally my moneys on Saders. Tahs have bought into their own hype i think, Saders too good across the park Imo.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jul 2014, 16:11
#16
31 Jul 2014, 16:11#16
Geez what a biased load of shit, not even worth commenting on Moffie  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2014, 16:21
#17
31 Jul 2014, 16:21#17
But you did comment didn't you Dave....in your role of moth to my flame.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jul 2014, 16:30
#18
31 Jul 2014, 16:30#18
Ah did I comment on each of your ratings Moffie or are you too thick to work that out?   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2014, 17:10
#19
31 Jul 2014, 17:10#19
No, but you commented on the ratings as a whole, which were supposed to be "not even worth commenting on", in making that very remark. Poor old Dave....so proud, so abysmally stupid.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Jul 2014, 17:46
#20
31 Jul 2014, 17:46#20
 It would be nice to see the player ratings of the Sharks when they beat the cruties in nz with 13 men.
In the semis no shark excelled they were all flat.  
These ratings shows there was an overall problem - the team as a whole played poorly.
It doesn't make them bad players. Look deeper I suggest.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2014, 22:07
#21
31 Jul 2014, 22:07#21
I looked deeper HasBeen. I looked at Lambie at flyhalf against Wales in the Fall. I found the same player that got a 3 rating against the Saders. Satisfied?  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Aug 2014, 00:41
#22
01 Aug 2014, 00:41#22
 Mozart
As per normal your deeper look was aimed at getting the maximum degree of prejudice out of the situation.
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