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Sharks was disgraceful

Started by clevermike22 REPLIES483 VIEWS· 26 Apr 2014, 00:49
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2014, 00:49
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26 Apr 2014, 00:49#1

If have written repeatedly about the Sharks backline and nobody cared to believe me.  They were disgustingly poor.   Their ball handling was piss poor and the idea to kick the ball away disgusting.   I can understand kicks from their own 22, but aimless and ineffective kicks otherwise are really ridiculous.


Two things more than anything else typified the game todayL0


*   Alberts trying to tackle Treeby and landing on his backside.   


*   The Sharks hooking a tight head just inside the Highlanders half  and the best Steyn can do is to kick the ball aimlessly into the in goal area.


The endless missed tackles and poor tackling efforts and the knock-ons and turnovers of ball possession was a disgrace.   It was not confined to any specific player - it went much wider:=


Mvovo  2,  Pietersen 3,  Jordaan 1,  Steyn 3,  McLeod 1,  Du Plessis 1,  Cooper 1. Mtawarire 1, Oosthiuizen 1, Coetzee 2, Alberts 2, Daniel 2,  The seven subs 6,


Ir was clear that the worst offenders were Steyn and Pietersen - closely followed by Mvovo, Coetzeem Alberts and Daniel.  Those are all experienced players who are supposed to set an example to the other players.   


What is clear is that virtually all the Sharks backline players have one thing in common - they cannot properly pass and catch balls passed to them.  What is even worse is the mindless and poor game they play.  


Swiel left the park after a misunderstanding between him and Marais about who should cover a high ball just after halftime and Steyn moved to flyhallf.   This was supposed to lead to an improvement - but it ushered in even a worse state of affairs.      

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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
26 Apr 2014, 06:16
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26 Apr 2014, 06:16#2
 Summed it up nicely mike. The crowd was as shocked as the team. You could see WTF on they're faces. Good for New Zealand puts the highlanders in a great spot.
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
26 Apr 2014, 06:19
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26 Apr 2014, 06:19#3
 Schooled in their own backyard aye.
Jake White schooled by Jamie Josephs - what was that Beeno? Can't hear you 
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
26 Apr 2014, 08:15
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26 Apr 2014, 08:15#4

haha this is a good outcome for the aussie teams so well done kiwis...


now lets see how the shawks travel and hopefully they cop a bit of a reverse reffing outcomes... they definitely will in nz but I get the sense the aussies are too fair.  

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
26 Apr 2014, 08:44
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26 Apr 2014, 08:44#5

Well summed up Mike...errors by Jordaan,Steyn,Pietersen.Coetzee and Daniels were unforgivable from experienced players.  Jake completely lost the plot and Sasue's reply to Papamoa

prior to the match made sense   

@papamoa,

hmmmmmmmmm, o_O
dont quite share ur optimism, white is smart enough to not take on the highlanders via the backs, cos thats just suicide.

but the sharks do have one of the best all round games, they will play for territory and slowly grind down the highlanders ionto errors which frans long distance power ranger goal kicking boot will take full advantage off.

 

Unfortunately that didn't happen and I hope that this sad performance spells a huge wake up call for SA rugby...kicking away and loosing possession ...when will we ever learn...

 

Well done to the Highlanders...your were head and shoulders above us.

 



 

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Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
26 Apr 2014, 08:58
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26 Apr 2014, 08:58#6
 Really........just tell me when the Sharks have performed as they should with that bunch of talented players.
They have been poor on defense, non existing attacks and have scored very few try's and all because they kick away possession and lose the breakdown balls.
Shocking to say the least.
Well played Highlanders from a disappointed Sharks supporter.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2014, 09:50
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26 Apr 2014, 09:50#7
 Seb
I have to agree - but I do not think Jordaan was poor - he received nothing to play with and that is a fact,   The one ball possession loss was a turnover when he carried the ball and was tackled.   That disallowed try was another piece of bullshit reffing by Peyper.   
The team as a whole was shockingly poor - so I hope White sees what is wrong and take action.        
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
26 Apr 2014, 11:31
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26 Apr 2014, 11:31#8
 The ref must have got a new whistle for his birthday. He blew the shit out of it all night. Sharks started well. As soon as they felt some pressure they self imploded maybe they're just not use to having that much pressure. 
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
26 Apr 2014, 12:19
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26 Apr 2014, 12:19#9

Well Papa, I've never felt comfortable with this ref...but in this case the Highlanders outclassed us totally so the ref is nullified...4 tries to nil says it all.

 

Having said this...Pied Peyper blows the whistle more than a London Bobby and certainly more than the Pied Piper of Hamlin...wrong job should have taken up the pipes in the Black Watch...lolz.

 

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
26 Apr 2014, 12:29
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26 Apr 2014, 12:29#10
 Yo u mean were, was is present tense, were is past. But yeah Sharks just couldent execute under pressure, the kind of pressure they prob experienced.
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
26 Apr 2014, 12:29
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26 Apr 2014, 12:29#11
sharks may have fallen for the old perfect ambush trap. complacency and keeping an eye on the travel ahead, instead of the task at hand.

meanwhile the highlanders came with a nothing to lose attitude and just went hard to get a good win.

sopoaga is proving to be indispensable for the highlanders.
2014 has been sopoagas best super rugby seasm ever, his all round kicking game, especially hsi goal kicking has gone up a level.
his ITM form has always been red hot, but something about 2014 has seen it on display at this level for the first time, as has the number of errors he use to make.
after barret, IMO sopoaga is prob the 2nd best flyhalf in the comp, tied with the bulls potgieter.

saffa teams all depend on their forwards, if they dont win upfront, they will never win anywhere else, especially against NZ teams whose ITM level backs are on par with the Springboks best backs.
highlanders pack lost two tightheads yesterday, but they gained parity for the most part, even powered a scrum win or two, paving the way for good upset win.

the rolling maul try to christie was a prime exam ple of why we shouldnt mess with the laws highlighted by hammet.
technically, the highlanders had players joining on to the maul from the side, which according to letter of the law is illegal, but cos they were in possession of the ball, it was all good.
saffas have a for a long time have mastered this weapon, while NZ teams are still finding their feet in this area, but once NZ teams add this format of attack into their arsenal, the NZ rugby empire is going to be even stronger then it is already.


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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
26 Apr 2014, 12:34
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26 Apr 2014, 12:34#12
 All Blacks the Einsenberg of Rugby, for anyone who watched Breaking Bad haha 
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
26 Apr 2014, 14:49
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26 Apr 2014, 14:49#13

As the Irish ditty goes ...."Lets not have a sniffle...Lets have a bloody-good cry!"

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
26 Apr 2014, 15:04
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26 Apr 2014, 15:04#14
 Kudos to the Sharks fans - very gentlemanly in a loss. I tip my hat to you. I wish the Stormers fans were like you 
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
26 Apr 2014, 17:10
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26 Apr 2014, 17:10#15
Ha ha so predictable Mike. How did I know Alberts and Steyn would get a special mention from u in that piss poor showing from the Sharks.
Seriously though, that was the worst game by any team so far this year. A combination of a disjointed team and taking the Highlanders too lightly showed up. We just have too many injuries now in key positions. Bizzy, Deysel, steph du toit, bresler, Lambie, Reinach and Ndungane are key to sharks success. SP Marais was terrible today. Swiel again offered nothing and was a negative! We won't beat the Rebels next week if he plays.As for Keegan dropping a good pass cold in space! Pathetic.
I am happier at the fact that it was a complete poor showing by the Sharks as a whole. Not just 1 or 2 players. It was more like an off day from the team and it happens. Sometimes it sparks a team to wake up so hopefully that's what this will do and Sharks will get back to basics and pull together again.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2014, 17:32
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26 Apr 2014, 17:32#16
 boklogic
I did mention the number of ball losses by all players and the fact that Steyn and Pietersen had most  showed how bad the two were.   
That was not the only thing that bothered me - the absolute clueless rugby played by the senior players.  The problem was that the replacement of Swiel by Steyn had a poor result - it was worse than before.  Steyn was completely clueless - while Swiel kicked the balls could be followed up and contested - when Steyn did it was not possible.  And he aimed his kicks directly at the potential recipient - not even tried to make life ore difficult for them.  
That kick after the tighthead was an absolute disgrace - that is when the opposition loosies are really tied up and you keep the ball in hand - a school child will tell you it is just not done.
As to Alberts - he loafs around enough standing around behind mauls and not trying to recover balls - being pushed off and landing on his backside by a backline player was the logical consequence of his defenseless play when it comes to defense outside of traffic.  .           
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kingcornPro3,695 posts
26 Apr 2014, 17:45
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26 Apr 2014, 17:45#17
 The sharks were terrible tonight, how many passes did the drop. The highlanders simply had more determination. The were quicker to the ball, showed better passing skill and kicked the ball with meaning. I thought Following three players were simply to slow. Jannie, Steyn, Alberts and JP. How bad was JP. Absolutely offered nothing what so ever.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2014, 18:21
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26 Apr 2014, 18:21#18
Kingcorn 
Are Jannie, Steyn, Alberts and JP not always tyoo slow????    

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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
27 Apr 2014, 06:51
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27 Apr 2014, 06:51#19
 Cloudy-Not yet hey. My flight is booked for June 30..Just one question for you (you may or may not know) but when the container comes to load up our belongings (June 16th), can I chuck my dirt bike in there or is it cheaper to sell it in NZL and buy over there?Is it classed as a vehicle that I need to pay GST on? Transworld are doing the move but their website refers to road legal vehicles.
I hear some talk of having to pay an extra $1500 plus GST that side which is like 10% of the value of the bike. If this is the case, its not worth it and cheaper to buy there. I was hoping it was as easy as tying it down into the container and away I go!
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
27 Apr 2014, 14:28
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27 Apr 2014, 14:28#20
 Transworld have quoted $1590 + gst for me to take it over. Then I have to pay 3.3% of its value in insurance and 10% of its value as tax in Australia.
Madness as we already paying $3600 + gst for the rest of our house to go. I cant understand why it just cant go in the same container. Why on earth is it treated differently?
 Well, that settles that for me anyway . Will have to flick it off here before I go.Thanks for the link though ;-) 
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Apr 2014, 14:35
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27 Apr 2014, 14:35#21
 Boklogic: is there any way you can have your dirt bike classifed as part of your household effects? 
This is what I did when I brought my car from the US to Europe. They wanted to charge VAT and other taxes. I showed that I had owned the car in the US (trying to establish that i was not importing it for profit). They approved it as house hold effects but with the provision that I not sell the car for two years upon arrival in Europe. This saved me a lot of money.
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
28 Apr 2014, 14:24
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28 Apr 2014, 14:24#22
 Just win, I have just seen you comment and snooping around on the www.transworld.co.nz website and it looks like I would have needed to have owned the bike for 12 months prior to shipping it. I have only owned this particular bike since Feb this year. It also says I will need to be an Aus resident or at least have applied to be a resident.I am going over on a subclass 457 (4 year business) visa. After 2 years we are invited to apply for residence status so I dont meet that either.
I see the personal effects that you mention might be the easiest way but I have to prove somehow that I have owned it for 12 months. I have a receipt for the purchase of the bike from the bloke I purchased it from off Trade Me. I will not show that though as it clearly states 15 Feb 2014 I bought it. Maybe try work on a false receipt ;-)
I am going in to Transworld tomorrow as they are located about 2 mins from my work place so I am going to go in and see what they can do for me. I mean, I will chuck it in the same container and cover it up as Cloudy suggests.If it sounds like a hack, I will just have to flog it but my issue is that I just spent $2300 on it having a bike shop rebuild the top end with new cylinder and piston and servicing everything else that is required every 50 or so hours like the water pump etc so its basically like a brand new bike!! 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Apr 2014, 16:08
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28 Apr 2014, 16:08#23
 Hacked waaaugh the team really didnt play well and it appears they were making silly mistakes. Nothing that as astute coach cant sort out. S ome times a team just doesnt listen to the coach.Anyhpow it is clear all this is a diversion from the hammering the hapless wee chiefies took not for the first time either. bwhahahahahaha

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