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SMIT: Sharks needed a change- (Cheers Plumtree!)

Started by sharkbok11 REPLIES254 VIEWS· 12 Jun 2013, 02:27
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
12 Jun 2013, 02:27
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12 Jun 2013, 02:27#1

New Sharks CEO John Smit says the decision not to renew John Plumtree's contract as head coach was made to 'freshen up and create some change'.

On Tuesday, the Sharks announced that SA U20 assistant coach and former Saracens director of rugby Brendan Venter would become Sharks' director of rugby from the start of the Currie Cup, and that Plumtree would not coach the team beyond October, when his contract expires.

'This is the most difficult issue we have right now, and one that has taken a lot of time and effort to come to,' Smit said. 'John’s contract comes to an end at the end of this year, and I did let him know yesterday that we won’t be renewing his contract.

'We can only be thankful for what Plum has done for the Sharks over the years,' he added. 'I won my first and only Currie Cup with him as coach, the first Currie Cup we’d won in 12 years. He’s given a lot of himself to this team, he’s had 10 campaigns as head coach behind his name.

'It was purely a decision to freshen up and create some change for the players’ experiences as well.'

On the appointment of Venter, Smit explained that, 'I’ve seen first-hand what he can and does do. He has created something quite special at Saracens in terms of rugby environment and the environment off the field as well. It’s something that appealed to me and the reason why I looked to get him here.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PLSoUM0EQcU

 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
12 Jun 2013, 02:31
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12 Jun 2013, 02:31#2
Smit finally got Plumtree back for dropping him as Sharks captain and choosing Bismaark ahead of him
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
12 Jun 2013, 03:07
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12 Jun 2013, 03:07#3

You can't just typically think the worst of a person, it's an unfair and unintelligent way of going about people, look at the wider spectrum and you'll notice that Plumtree was most likely dropped due to the poor season this far.

But what if managed to pull it off and get into the playoffs, that would be a massive twist!

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
12 Jun 2013, 03:11
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12 Jun 2013, 03:11#4

It is a joke Simpleton.

Watch the youtube movie link and Smit speaks

very highly of Plumtree

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jun 2013, 17:01
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12 Jun 2013, 17:01#5
I just had a visit from one of my young friends with close ties with players in the Sharks team and he told me that the team was torn apart by personal agenda of certain players and the new coach will have a huge job when he takes over to repair the damage and build up a new team spirit amongst the players. The name of Francois Steyn came up and he said he is a difficult player and part of the problem - with an adverse impact on players. There are apparently two distinct camps in the team and the two are not co-operating at all - which affects team performance on the field of play. One can only winder why this problem was not in evidence last year and why it became a real problem this year.
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manceRookie63 posts
12 Jun 2013, 20:16
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12 Jun 2013, 20:16#6

As this is my first post on this forum let me firstly say hello to everybody. I've browsed here for awhile and have now decided to take the plunge. Live just west of Durban and am a Sharks fan. I aslo have some contacts at the Sharks due to the work I do therefore I can share this info with you.

To Clevermike, you are close, there is internal strife at the Sharks and it involves not only the senior team but the lower levels as well. The major reason for this is Plumtree's bringing in Lions players to replace his own injured players instead of promoting players internally.

This is a major reason why Jandre Marais has left the union. Kankowski and JP were on the verge of leaving permanently due to issues with captain and coach but have now re-signed after Smit's intervention.

I have not heard of any problems with Steyn, in fact he is looked up to by the younger players and plays a mentoring role to a few of them.

Dont be surprised if a new captain is announced for the Currie Cup and also next year's Super15.

 

 

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oimateyPro1,870 posts
12 Jun 2013, 21:22
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12 Jun 2013, 21:22#7

 Thanks Mance. This supports the actions of Smit in clearing out the old baggage and dead wood. He has obviously assessed the situation and is taking appropriate measures to change the culture. Any new CEO of a company would do the same thing. Makes sense for him to go with someone he has experience with and obviously respects. Smit may be a lot of things, but he is no idiot.

 

Unless someone has evidence, it is pure conjecture that his actions were vindicative towards Plumtree. Smit was the consummate gentleman both on and off the field.

 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
12 Jun 2013, 21:31
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12 Jun 2013, 21:31#8

I can see your crusade against Frans is still on going Mike...

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jun 2013, 23:05
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12 Jun 2013, 23:05#9

None of this is surprising, but it's good to get confirmation from a credible source. Welcome mance!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jun 2013, 23:56
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12 Jun 2013, 23:56#10
Mance Welcome to the site. I accept your comments - why I mentioned Steyn was my friends comments on Steyn - namely *He is a difficult one to deal with". I interpreted it in a way that he meant that Steyn is part of the problem - however, I could be wrong in that regard. I also think that there may be a different captain in future - but the mere fact that there is trouble in the camp cannot stem from anything other than factionalism in the side. I think Smit is indeed a gentleman and he would have enough rugby savvy to identify the problem and deal with it expeditiously. Since he is experienced as a captain - he would also know what to do about it. However, I do not know really whether the Lions Players were really the problem. Initially there was only one Lions player involved - namely Van der Merwe. The later addition of Lions players were relatively late in the season and resulted mainly from injuries to key players. Yes - certainly the Marais brothers would have been unhappy about Van der Merwe - as a Shark supporter I also was unhappy since Van der Merwe is really not up to standard despite Meyer's and Plumtree's view in the relevant regard) - but that on its own could not have caused the apparent serious rifts in the team. I believe that the problem could have to do with two camps in the team - but who caused the division is anybody's guess. I suppose the guilty party or parties have been identified by Smit already and he and venter together will deal with the issue. However, there may be some clarity when we see how team selection would be done for the CC games. If there are any prominent departures it would indicate the source of the problem. However, I am hopeful that the matter would be cleared up asap. .
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
13 Jun 2013, 02:59
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13 Jun 2013, 02:59#11

I recall the initial rumor that it was the 2 camps were Afrikaans and English first language speakers. 

Perhaps the camps do exist but just not English/Afrikaaner, and actually the Lions vs Sharks players.

I also heard a rumour that Frans Steyn was half the oranges at half time which created some division within the camp, although not sure how true that was. Maybe he was eating all of the Lions oranges but seem a bit far fetched.

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
13 Jun 2013, 03:03
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13 Jun 2013, 03:03#12

I recall the initial rumor that it was the 2 camps were Afrikaans and English first language speakers. 

Perhaps the camps do exist but just not English/Afrikaaner, and actually the Lions vs Sharks players.

I also heard a rumour that Frans Steyn was eating half the oranges at half time which created some division within the camp,

although not sure how true that was. Maybe he was eating all of the Lions oranges but seem a bit far fetched.

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